Ubisoft Wants to Dominate Kinect

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Logan Westbrook said:
You folks are aware that the iPad sold 3 million units in two and a half months, right? That's a remarkably successful hardware launch.
But because it's Apple, it's irrelevant to about 7/8s of this forum.
 

Midniqht

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Andronicus said:
Overpriced, irrelevant in my household, and, quite frankly, the launch line-up is, not to put too fine a point on it, fucking atrocious.

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The only one that looks even remotely interesting to me is the Adrenaline Misfits thing, but then again, with the terrible saturation of fitness "games" and minigame compilations, that really doesn't say a lot. Where's the imagination?
And the Move's launch titles are just as bad, and just as lacking in imagination, in my opinion. Don't judge any of the peripherals by their launch titles. Wait til people actually start putting out more than proof-of-concept games.
 

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We get it, you will go after the grandmothers, to take some of that sweet sweet Wii pie.
But I do wonder why a granny would waste all that extra cash on a Xbox+Kinect when the Wii is somuch cheaper, maybe they can somehow sell them on the whole HD hype.
 

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SonicWaffle said:
What is Kinect's power? I really don't see why people are so excited about it. As technology, sure, it's cool. As gaming technology it's a very flawed idea. I don't like the idea of developers putting more effort into Kinect games than they would into proper games, because I'm sure as hell never getting one of these.
Some of us embrace change, quite honestly I've been gaming for 30 some years and the industry has been stagnant for so very long and actually moving backwards to me.
 

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Midnight0000 said:
Andronicus said:
Overpriced, irrelevant in my household, and, quite frankly, the launch line-up is, not to put too fine a point on it, fucking atrocious.

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The only one that looks even remotely interesting to me is the Adrenaline Misfits thing, but then again, with the terrible saturation of fitness "games" and minigame compilations, that really doesn't say a lot. Where's the imagination?
And the Move's launch titles are just as bad, and just as lacking in imagination, in my opinion. Don't judge any of the peripherals by their launch titles. Wait til people actually start putting out more than proof-of-concept games.
Well not really, I mean they might not be all at lanuch but you got games like:

Socom 4
MAG - update
InFamous 2
Dungeon Siege
Killzone 3
Heavy Rain - update
Resident Evil 5 - update
RUSE
LittleBigPlanet 2
Sorcery

Most if not all are coming out in 2011 but still.
 

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tehroc said:
Some of us embrace change, quite honestly I've been gaming for 30 some years and the industry has been stagnant for so very long and actually moving backwards to me.
There is a difference between change that will have a positive effect on the industry, and change for the sake of change. The Wii had a positive effect, in that it made gaming more aminstream and is bringing more people into the world of console gaming, not to mention that it made a fuckload of money. The Move and Kinect are changes for the sake of change - they saw how well the Wii did and are attempting to ape it's success. The problem is that the Wii caters to a specific market, leaving the 360 and the PS3 to fight over the "hardcore" gamers' money.

Bringing motion control to the 360 and the PS3 is just an attempt to cash in on Nintendo's success, but a badly thought out one; the core audience of those two consoles do not spend a whole lot of money on the kind of casual games where the motion control gimmick is actually relevant. Attempting to bring motion control into games which do not rely on it is a mistake, and since the main market for the Wii is families who are unlikely to buy a brand new console just to play Wii-style games, that is what will end up happening.
 

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Korten12 said:
Midnight0000 said:
Andronicus said:
Overpriced, irrelevant in my household, and, quite frankly, the launch line-up is, not to put too fine a point on it, fucking atrocious.

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The only one that looks even remotely interesting to me is the Adrenaline Misfits thing, but then again, with the terrible saturation of fitness "games" and minigame compilations, that really doesn't say a lot. Where's the imagination?
And the Move's launch titles are just as bad, and just as lacking in imagination, in my opinion. Don't judge any of the peripherals by their launch titles. Wait til people actually start putting out more than proof-of-concept games.
Well not really, I mean they might not be all at lanuch but you got games like:

Socom 4
MAG - update
InFamous 2
Dungeon Siege
Killzone 3
Heavy Rain - update
Resident Evil 5 - update
RUSE
LittleBigPlanet 2
Sorcery

Most if not all are coming out in 2011 but still.
Exactly.. they're not all launch games, and some of those are just adding the Move support rather than being designed specifically *FOR* it. I think that if we wait until this time next year, both Move and Kinect will have some good original titles for each. Right now, they're both out to just prove that the new tech works and all... I enjoyed my playtime with the Move but it felt a little too much like Wiimotes for my liking. I'm getting a Kinect almost entirely for the things other than the launch titles.
 

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Logan Westbrook said:
Ubisoft's North American boss Laurent Detoc sees big things in the future for Kinect, saying it will be a "must-have" brand, like the iPad.
Ok... i see like a million things with this statement

Ubisoft's...yeah... there is one thing, the creators of such an awesom DRM that there has being NO LASHBACKS FROM ANY CUSTOMER EVER.
"must-have" brand not more than Wii, or move
like the iPad wait... what??? seriously???? iPad is now a must have!?.... ooook... *walks away slowly*

Logan Westbrook said:
You folks are aware that the iPad sold 3 million units in two and a half months, right? That's a remarkably successful hardware launch.
o_O...

ok that got me by surprise... i didn´t knew that, and that would actually make it a "Must Have"

i just saw it in a store, and was so ridiculously overpriced (here in MX, its like twice as expensive than over there) that i didnt wanted to get it... still i tought it looked interesting
 

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Must have like the iPad, hmmm? Well, I don't have an iPad either, so I guess I'm not going to have either "must have" gadget. Besides, I don't want a gaming peripheral that so dominates the room that it dictates my housekeeping habits. In other words, my living room is cluttered, and Kinect supposedly doesn't like that.
 

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I know people who own iPads and are in love with them, so I suppose it's possible for someone to like their Kinect... except you know, an iPad still has a tactile screen and you can also use it to browse Facebook and show off your drunken photos to your friends wherever you go.

The Kinect on the other hand? I remember seeing the Wii's controller and instantly thinking "wow, that's actually clever" when Nintendo announced that they intentionally designed the remote to resemble a TV remote to remove the controller shape intimidation many non-gamers have. Needless to say this also meant the Wii controller could be used right or left handed with no real consequence, AND there are tons of control styles to fit each game. And there are still buttons to press. I remember the parts of Metroid Prime 3 where you had to fiddle with some devices using gestures, and it was really awkward without any feedback whatsoever, whereas aiming and firing worked just fine. I don't need tactility while aiming the weapon, but I'd sure like the reassurance that I'm actually hitting the trigger button. Kinect, with its complete lack of buttons, will be the bottom rung of the motion control ladder as the everyday person struggles to have the tech recognize their flailing, whereas Sony is trying to promote itself as the Wii 2.0. Honestly, I'd rather have Sony's product and at least know that it functions.
 

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myself, I am not really interested in motion gaming, but if I had a choice, I would probably choose the PSMove over Kinect.
 

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Logan Westbrook said:
Ubisoft's North American boss Laurent Detoc sees big things in the future for Kinect, saying it will be a "must-have" brand, like the iPad.
Too bad for Laurent Detoc that the iPad isn't a must have brand. Most people see it for the overpriced piece of crap that it is and don't buy one.

Logan Westbrook said:
You folks are aware that the iPad sold 3 million units in two and a half months, right? That's a remarkably successful hardware launch.
Yes, I'm aware that legions of Apple fans who will buy anything shiny as long as it's made by Apple bought one. Hardly makes it a must have brand, though. I wonder how sales are doing now that all the Apple horde has one and nobody else wants one... Funny how Apple never mentions that.

But anyway, even if Ubisoft had compared themselves and their games to something that's actually must have... They're still Ubisoft, maker of mediocre titles and shovelware and wouldn't know a good game if it bit them in the ass. If Kinect is a success, it will have absolutely nothing to do with them.
 

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stinkychops said:
Seriously, why? Why would you want this?
Well I'll be buying it for my wife, who isn't a big gamer, as well as my nieces and nephews and future kids. That's why I'm buying it, and that's what Microsoft is pushing. If you consider that there are over 30 million Xbox owners, how many have spouses, siblings, friends, children, and family who aren't big into games, or who don't want the 'hardcore' titles? I'd bet more then 50%. My wife is interested in playing it, so is my family, and it'll be perfect for our non-gamer friends too when they come over.
 

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SonicWaffle said:
GeneticallyModifiedDucks said:
If this thing is a "must-have" in the same way that the iPad is, then count me even further out.
If this is where the industry is headed, count me out! Out of service, out of Escapist, I wouldn't hang about!

GamesB2 said:
They may produce some shovelware but hopefully they'll apply themselves to some games and really show off Kinects power.
What is Kinect's power? I really don't see why people are so excited about it. As technology, sure, it's cool. As gaming technology it's a very flawed idea. I don't like the idea of developers putting more effort into Kinect games than they would into proper games, because I'm sure as hell never getting one of these.
This industries getting wildly out of wiiiing.

Oh I just can't wait for that thing!

But in all seriousness, I'm looking forward to KINECT.
 
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Baby Tea said:
stinkychops said:
Seriously, why? Why would you want this?
Well I'll be buying it for my wife, who isn't a big gamer, as well as my nieces and nephews and future kids. That's why I'm buying it, and that's what Microsoft is pushing. If you consider that there are over 30 million Xbox owners, how many have spouses, siblings, friends, children, and family who aren't big into games, or who don't want the 'hardcore' titles? I'd bet more then 50%. My wife is interested in playing it, so is my family, and it'll be perfect for our non-gamer friends too when they come over.
Wouldn't it be allot better just buying a Wii? You'd get it cheaper too.
I use the Wii for the exact same reasons you will use Kinect. Only I'm fourteen and have no girlfriend (But I'm working on that...) but for my non-gamer Dad and for party's it's a blast!
Nothing beats a good game of SSBB with your mates!
 

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Fallen-Angel Risen-Demon said:
Wouldn't it be allot better just buying a Wii? You'd get it cheaper too.
No, and it's not at all cheaper.
I already own a 360, so $150 is far cheaper when the $200 Wii. I don't want to plug anything else into my TV and clutter my entertainment unit, and I don't want to spend more then $200 getting more controllers. Kinect is two player out of the box.

Plus, every preview I've read on Kinect (And I've scoured the net for 'em) says that is is fun. And that's what I'm looking for: Fun. If it works with what I already own, then sweet deal. Less crap plugged into my TV.
 

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If Microsoft has spent so much on advertising the Kinect, how come I haven't seen a single ad for it in finnish tv or in public places? Nobody in Finland even knows that Kinect is coming.