Ubisoft Wants to Please PC Gamers

[Frostbite3789]

Well you coulda tried that when you were forcing them to sign up for it to access your games.

Sort of like how I have to register non-Valve single player games with Steam while online for some reason? Yeah, that's wonderful.

Well where did you get them from?

Hard copies from the store. That have no business requiring Steam registration. Or forcing me to get online to register them.

 

[AzrealMaximillion]

Threads like this seriously give me a headache. It really hurts my head how much ignorance is here. All these people complaining about Uplay willingly use Steam. And Uplay is really no worse than that. But we're going to act all entitled and talk about how it's the Worst Thing Ever?.

Well frankly if uPlay didn't carry just Ubisoft games (and soon apparently some EA games) it would not be such a big deal. The thing is Steam works so well and the sales can't be beat. Neither can the catalog of games. Plus, why have uPlay AND Steam installed on your PC? What's the advantage in that? Stacked side by side Steam is just the better option and has much less dick in the pudding that is digital purchasing.

Well you coulda tried that when you were forcing them to sign up for it to access your games.

Sort of like how I have to register non-Valve single player games with Steam while online for some reason? Yeah, that's wonderful.

Well where did you get them from?

Seconded. What in the 9 circles of Hell are you going on about?

 

[Sight Unseen]

I'll respect UBI when they respect me. I bought a legitimate copy of Anno 2070 and the neck deep DRM wouldn't let me play it, even though I was playing by all their rules and had a fully capable computer and internet connection. I Spent two months working with their tech support and tried everything, even deleting part of my operating system 'just to be sure'. They finally gave up and said 'we don't know what the problem is, sorry. We don't do refunds.' In for me to try them again they are going to have to either release something as epic as Dungeon Keeper 3 (unlikely) or they are going to have drop their DRM crap that won't let legitimate customers play their games.

They have dropped their DRM Crap. Their games now require only a one time activation and then there's no DRM anymore. I've never had any problem playing any of their games through uPlay (I've played From Dust, AC:Revelations, and AC3 so far)

 

[Agayek]

Hard copies from the store. That have no business requiring Steam registration. Or forcing me to get online to register them.

Eh, the reason they do is because they use Steamworks for achievements and multiplayer whatnots.

Though you are right when you say that Uplay really isn't any worse than Steam. The problem with Ubisoft though isn't Uplay. It's the fact that they shove in as much DRM as they possibly can, most of it bloated and unwieldy and an active detriment to the game, into every single one of their PC releases.

Uplay is just a store, it's not a big deal. The hardware checks and always-online requirements are though, and until they completely and totally stop that, they're always going to be perceived as twisted, draconian fucks with no regard for the consumer.

 

[LordLundar]

The issue isn't about the quality of games, it never has been (Ubisoft usually ranks fairly high in that regard personally). The issue is that to gain legal access to the quality games, customers are forced to deal with some of the worst DRM schemes out there put out by a company that thinks they're all thieves.

Please explain to me how a system that is EXACTLY the same as Steam is the worst DRM out there. I haven't had a single problem with Uplay.

Steamworks server goes down, I can still play my registered games offline. Not perfect no, but still viable.

UPlay servers go down (which they have, repeatedly in fact) and my ONE game that utilizes it (MMH6 btw) will not go beyond the main menu before saying "Oops! can't connect. Guess you're out of luck" and shuts down. And Ubisoft paints this as a good thing.

Besides, I never said that Steam was perfect or a godsend. You put that comparison in there yourself. But steam has improved in customer relations and service over the years while UPlay and Origin have not and the companies behind them have proceeded to blame the consumers instead.

 

[Frostbite3789]

The issue isn't about the quality of games, it never has been (Ubisoft usually ranks fairly high in that regard personally). The issue is that to gain legal access to the quality games, customers are forced to deal with some of the worst DRM schemes out there put out by a company that thinks they're all thieves.

Please explain to me how a system that is EXACTLY the same as Steam is the worst DRM out there. I haven't had a single problem with Uplay.

Steamworks server goes down, I can still play my registered games offline. Not perfect no, but still viable.

UPlay servers go down (which they have, repeatedly in fact) and my ONE game that utilizes it (MMH6 btw) will not go beyond the main menu before saying "Oops! can't connect. Guess you're out of luck" and shuts down. And Ubisoft paints this as a good thing.

Besides, I never said that Steam was perfect or a godsend. You put that comparison in there yourself. But steam has improved in customer relations and service over the years while UPlay and Origin have not and the companies behind them have proceeded to blame the consumers instead.

Really? Apparently I'm the only person on Earth who has had a hellish time dealing with Steam's customer service. Now this isn't to say I don't like Steam. I like it, but the needless love it gets most times is kind of ridiculous considering at it's core it's DRM.

Also anytime I'm offline on Steam, over half my games mysteriously need to 'complete installation' which requires me to be online. They never need to do this if I'm online.

Also I can't speak for Far Cry 3 but I can play my store bought and Uplay registered copy of AC3 while offline.

 

[iseko]

it took me 3 hours to get ac3 to install on my pc. having it actually work was another hassle. Fuck ubisoft and fuck uplay. I almost gave up on installing it with legitimate copy... fucking ubisoft fuckers

 

[AzrealMaximillion]

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Thanks to DVS BSTrD for quoting me so I could see what's going on.

What I will say is this, while uPlay isn't any worse than Steam in terms of how its store works, it border on being kind of redundant considering they sell all of their titles on Steam anyways. And I highly doubt that they will do what EA did and pull a chunk of their games off of Steam to make sure uPlay is the only place to buy Ubisoft's PC games (EA with Origin, gross).

 

[Ironside]

I... Actually didn't mind Uplay.

I only used it to play Assassin's creed III and Far Cry 3 so far, but it didn't bother me one bit.

I entirely agree with you. I only recently brought AC3 on steam (completed it yesterday in fact) and I was pleasantly surprised by the Uplay service - it works very nicely and has a smooth startup and doesn'ty interfere with my game at all. I do also like the rewards system thing they have.

 

[LordLundar]

Really? Apparently I'm the only person on Earth who has had a hellish time dealing with Steam's customer service. Now this isn't to say I don't like Steam. I like it, but the needless love it gets most times is kind of ridiculous considering at it's core it's DRM.

To the point where you start throwing baseless accusations at anyone that says there are worse systems out there it seems.

Do the world a favor and put your torch and pitchfork away.

 

[Frostbite3789]

Really? Apparently I'm the only person on Earth who has had a hellish time dealing with Steam's customer service. Now this isn't to say I don't like Steam. I like it, but the needless love it gets most times is kind of ridiculous considering at it's core it's DRM.

To the point where you start throwing baseless accusations at anyone that says there are worse systems out there it seems.

Do the world a favor and put your torch and pitchfork away.

Baseless? I'm pretty sure the legitimate copy of Dead Island I purchased but didn't get to play for over a week because of Steam support has plenty of base.

 

[KeyMaster45]

They have dropped their DRM Crap. Their games now require only a one time activation and then there's no DRM anymore. I've never had any problem playing any of their games through uPlay (I've played From Dust, AC:Revelations, and AC3 so far)

Except that if you went and bought From Dust when they removed the DRM it updates and forces you to login to Uplay before it will run. The removed the requirement to login to something only to months later stick it right back in and not a single person seems to realize it. I had to download a firewall program just to block that from getting patched back in.

If Ubisoft wants to get back on my good side then they need to do two things.

1) Take out the always on DRM from From Dust again. I only bought it because you did so the first time; going back on that decision makes me feel like I was swindled out of my money.

2) Don't fuck up The Stick of Truth with your shitty Uplay DRM. I don't care how good it is, I will not buy it if it requires a Uplay account.

 

[LordLundar]

Really? Apparently I'm the only person on Earth who has had a hellish time dealing with Steam's customer service. Now this isn't to say I don't like Steam. I like it, but the needless love it gets most times is kind of ridiculous considering at it's core it's DRM.

To the point where you start throwing baseless accusations at anyone that says there are worse systems out there it seems.

Do the world a favor and put your torch and pitchfork away.

Baseless? I'm pretty sure the legitimate copy of Dead Island I purchased but didn't get to play for over a week because of Steam support has plenty of base.

So you think it's completely justified to accuse me of being a Steam brownnoser because my experience with UPlay doesn't match yours despite the fact that I never even mentioned Steam in my post. In fact, prior to your tirade there wasn't anyone in the thread saying that Steam was anywhere near the best. At most it's labelled as the most convenient.

In addition to the torch and pitchfork, put the blinders away before you hurt yourself.

 

[Frostbite3789]

So you think it's completely justified to accuse me of being a Steam brownnoser because my experience with UPlay doesn't match yours despite the fact that I never even mentioned Steam in my post. In fact, prior to your tirade there wasn't anyone in the thread saying that Steam was anywhere near the best. At most it's labelled as the most convenient.

In addition to the torch and pitchfork, put the blinders away before you hurt yourself.

I didn't accuse you of that at any point. I said 'people' and they do. You lumped yourself in there. Guess you learn things about yourself you never knew? You're the one who started in with the getting personal with the whole torch and pitchfork comment not once but twice now. Adding in the blinders. Maybe you need to put the blinders away and learn when someone isn't attacking you.

 

[Atmos Duality]

OK Ubisoft, I'll even give you a tip for free.
Pay attention, this one's kinda important:

DON'T PISS THEM OFF WITH ALWAYS-ONLINE DRM

 

[Antari]

Uplay is exactly what keeps me at arms length to Ubisoft. Until they stop requiring login for their games, I will only pay 50-75% off.

 

[barbzilla]

Does it feel like they are actually saying "We know we have burned our PC customers in the past, but we really want to cash in on Steam's popularity so we are going to make a Steam like program to sell you games, doesn't this make you happy?". I'm sorry but Ubi is just trying to make money, the same as always. If they want to generate good PR with their PC crowd, they need to patch all of their games to remove the retarded DRM and always online requirements (for some). Then they can focus on making games for the PC instead of porting a game to the PC. If they do those two things, I will go ahead and install UPlay and buy a game.

 

[HaraDaya]

Far Cry 3 was not a good PC port, no matter how much they like to think so. The fact that it is so sloppy is what keeps me from playing through it again. I can't unsee the mess it is.