Wat?In 2001, nearly 400,000 people wrote "Jedi" as their religion
On topic, I understand what they're trying to do but it's still gonna sound bad on paper.
Wat?In 2001, nearly 400,000 people wrote "Jedi" as their religion
As a Roman Catholic, I am inclined to say the following whenever I see this picture:Not G. Ivingname said:
PREACH IT! PREACH IT!similar.squirrel said:They're right. Taking the piss is funny up to a point, but botching an attempt at furthering secularization is taking it a bit far.
You will not be able to excise the cancer of religion by laughing at it, that's for sure.
Good work diggin that up.CrystalShadow said:-many snips-
People vote Jedi because they don't want to give their real religion away. Atheists vote atheist to stick it to God. Huge difference.summerof2010 said:More generally, just what are you talking about here?
You mean stick it to people who believe in god, since there is no god.The_root_of_all_evil said:People vote Jedi because they don't want to give their real religion away. Atheists vote atheist to stick it to God. Huge difference.summerof2010 said:More generally, just what are you talking about here?
O RLY? You have proof I assumeChoppaduel said:You mean stick it to people who believe in god, since there is no god.
Chuck Norris does not exist, the idea of him is a figment of our collective conscience. Possibly generated because we, as a collective, want a tangible god.Ultratwinkie said:If there is no god, explain Chuck Norris. He came down from heaven to spread the word of the fist.
Read the original post. Similar Squirrel mentioned removing the cancer of religion. I was not talking about atheists in general, I was talking to him specifically.ReiverCorrupter said:The people who are complaining about the Jedi aren't trying to destroy religion, they just want accurate census numbers because they don't want the UK to appear more religious than it is by having atheists sign up as Jedists.mechanixis said:It's more complicated than that. In the United States, you literally have no hope running for office without being emphatically Christian. While there is a technical separation of church and state, in reality it's very much a Christian hegemony. By under-representing the actual non-religious demographic, we're just perpetuating a culture where someone's religion is seen as some kind of moral metric: being "Christian" automatically marks you as a good, intelligent person, while being Islamic or nonreligious demonizes you. It's a system of deeply ingrained prejudices.RelexCryo said:The percentage of who is and who is not religous is not relevant to secularizing government. Even if 99% of the people are a certain religion, religious freedom would still mandate a secular government.similar.squirrel said:They're right. Taking the piss is funny up to a point, but botching an attempt at furthering secularization is taking it a bit far.
You will not be able to excise the cancer of religion by laughing at it, that's for sure.
How is this "destroying religion"? There's no forcing here; it's just an appeal for them to take these things seriously. If anything, it's begging. You're buying in to the inflammatory tone of the article.RelexCryo said:I think you meant to say "Botching an attempt at destroying religion."
A) Forcing them to put Atheist rather than Jedi is not going to further any attempt at destroying religion, it would not help in any size shape or form.
No one is talking about actively destroying religion! Atheists don't go out in the night and kidnap religious people to brainwash them! Religion is an extremely dominant force in government and culture, and 'militant' Atheists like this simply want to level the playing field by coaxing secularization along. As I said, religious fundamentalism has led to serious problems in the United States when it comes to elected officials. Gay marriage, anyone?RelexCryo said:B) Destroying religion is a violation of human rights. People have both a right to be free from being forced into other's religions, and to have whatever religion they wish.
C) Can you explain precisely why a lack of religion would make the world a better place? Chairman Mao of China, as I recall, did pretty much every horrible thing that religous people do. Same for Stalin. So it seems to me that the basic problems Atheists associate with religion are going to exist even without religion.
But on the other hand, there are a lot of people who feel like the government has no business knowing their religion and sign Jedi because of this. And you know what? They're probably right. The census should just include a "prefer not to answer" option and the problem would probably be solved.
But you're wrong about militant atheists, some of them DO want to wipe out religion. Not all of them by any means, but some. They're nut-jobs and they give a bad name to the other atheists.
EDIT: I meant to reply to Mechanixis, sorry.similar.squirrel said:They're right. Taking the piss is funny up to a point, but botching an attempt at furthering secularization is taking it a bit far.
You will not be able to excise the cancer of religion by laughing at it, that's for sure.
Indeed. I find their lack of faith disturbing!moretimethansense said:It was as though a thousand killjoys cried out in anger and refused to be silenced.
It's not "atheists not being able to take a joke." Sure, it's kind of funny to put Jedi as your religion as a little joke, but you're still seriously fucking up the results of the poll. That's the part they care about.Bobzer77 said:It seems definitive, Atheists can't take a joke.
Jedi ftw.
Those are militant atheists, and some of them are just as dumb as militant christians.Baresark said:They are by far the most serious and annoying folks around whenever the topic comes up. I put them up there with the Jesus freaks who get in your face to save your soul. They are simply the other side of the isle, haha.
"NO, You MUST show me proof of GOD!"
"But you can't show me proof of not god?!?!"
"So, I don't need to!"
Haha, this should be turned into a web video series.
Read the original post. Similar Squirrel mentioned removing the cancer of religion. I was not talking about atheists in general, I was talking to him specifically.mechanixis said:It's more complicated than that. In the United States, you literally have no hope running for office without being emphatically Christian. While there is a technical separation of church and state, in reality it's very much a Christian hegemony. By under-representing the actual non-religious demographic, we're just perpetuating a culture where someone's religion is seen as some kind of moral metric: being "Christian" automatically marks you as a good, intelligent person, while being Islamic or nonreligious demonizes you. It's a system of deeply ingrained prejudices.RelexCryo said:The percentage of who is and who is not religous is not relevant to secularizing government. Even if 99% of the people are a certain religion, religious freedom would still mandate a secular government.similar.squirrel said:They're right. Taking the piss is funny up to a point, but botching an attempt at furthering secularization is taking it a bit far.
You will not be able to excise the cancer of religion by laughing at it, that's for sure.
How is this "destroying religion"? There's no forcing here; it's just an appeal for them to take these things seriously. If anything, it's begging. You're buying in to the inflammatory tone of the article.RelexCryo said:I think you meant to say "Botching an attempt at destroying religion."
A) Forcing them to put Atheist rather than Jedi is not going to further any attempt at destroying religion, it would not help in any size shape or form.
No one is talking about actively destroying religion! Atheists don't go out in the night and kidnap religious people to brainwash them! Religion is an extremely dominant force in government and culture, and 'militant' Atheists like this simply want to level the playing field by coaxing secularization along. As I said, religious fundamentalism has led to serious problems in the United States when it comes to elected officials. Gay marriage, anyone?RelexCryo said:B) Destroying religion is a violation of human rights. People have both a right to be free from being forced into other's religions, and to have whatever religion they wish.
C) Can you explain precisely why a lack of religion would make the world a better place? Chairman Mao of China, as I recall, did pretty much every horrible thing that religous people do. Same for Stalin. So it seems to me that the basic problems Atheists associate with religion are going to exist even without religion.
similar.squirrel said:They're right. Taking the piss is funny up to a point, but botching an attempt at furthering secularization is taking it a bit far.
You will not be able to excise the cancer of religion by laughing at it, that's for sure.