That actually sounds like a plot point from the novel/movie Catch-22. One of the US airmen is stealing the Parachute to sell the silk on the black market. He puts IOUs in to replace them.
" Sorry, sir. Not much of a war. No Stalingrad. How is it that we're the Nazis this time? How is it? "Oh, depending on your timezone, 78 years ago was the 2nd of May, 1954, which saw the Soviet flag raised over the Reichstag.
Towards the end of a Soviet campaign to take the capital of Nazi Germany. Just thought I'd put this here for no real reason.
How the mighty have fallen.Oh, depending on your timezone, 78 years ago was the 2nd of May, 1954, which saw the Soviet flag raised over the Reichstag.
Towards the end of a Soviet campaign to take the capital of Nazi Germany. Just thought I'd put this here for no real reason.
To be fair, the Soviets were using equipment they got from the US (and other places like the UK, but that was more junk they didn't want). Not just out of altruism, but because of the realisation that giving the Eastern Europeans weapons so they could defend themselves from the evil authoritarian power looking to expand its empire was in their own interests.
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Now the west is giving weapons to Eastern Europeans to be foot soldiers for their own evil authoritarian empire.
You must also think the Spanish Civil War was an English invasion of Spain because George Orwell fought in it.
A video that was produced and published by Ukrainian officials? That video?
You and I are well aware that the Donetsk and Luhansk insurgencies have been funded and directed by Russia, and staffed by disguised Russian troops, since 2014. Recall how the Donbass conflict was all but over in less than a year, at a tiny fraction of the human and infrastructural cost... until Russia massively stepped up its material support, transforming it into essentially a Russian military foothold. And recall how those demands for "independence" suddenly evaporated when Russia stated that those areas would be added to Russia.
It literally included the same footage that you first introduced to the thread.
Considering the Russians supplied fully equipped units of "volunteers", the obvious Spanish Civil War equivalent would be Legion Condor, not George Orwell.
Yes, but Seanchaidh can't really admit that fact because he knows how damaging it is to his position.
To simultaneously consider Maidan as wholly artificial, purely a result of outside influence, while also considering the Donetsk and Luhansk insurgencies to be organic expressions of Eastern Ukrainian sentiment really does take the cake. I feel like at a stretch, if you were being a bit gullible, you could believe one or the other. To believe both at the same time is so flagrantly self-serving and credulous that it defies all sense.
Call it Taiwan or Kurdistan instead of Donetsk and you'd support 'Russia' in your characterization of this matter. Except that for you, only the strongest empire in human history is allowed to send weapons to people who are (potentially or actually) defending themselves from their own governments.
Until enough personnel and equipment made it there to stop the neo-nazi regiments with heavy weapons from rolling over everything? With your reasoning, Ukraine is apparently little more than an appendage of the United States because it hasn't immediately fallen apart. And the Afghan Mujahideen must have been composed of SEALs, Green Berets, and the 101st airborne-- but in disguise!-- for it to have had success against the relatively advanced weaponry of the Soviet Union; but that obviously wasn't the case, so maybe your reasoning is just bullshit.
Somehow you're able to understand the argument that Ukraine enjoys no real sovereignty when its government relies for its continued existence on foreign support if you substitute Donetsk. Odd.
Which was remarkable in the first place because it was posted by Ukrainian officials and its metadata indicated it was filmed some number of days after the Russians had left. Good job on missing the point the first time around.
Nope, anyone can send armaments to countries under threat of imperialist invasion. In each case I'm supportive of efforts to repel imperialist invasion.
The direct Russian control of the insurgents isn't even seriously disputed by the insurgents themselves, who've now abandoned the pretence of independence.
Until enough foreign weaponry made it into the hands of the insurgents to repel the elected government, rather.
So much irrelevant, diversionary blather. A legally recognised, elected, sovereign government =/= a foreign-run insurgency.
Integration into a larger state.... that is massacring them on a scale unseen at the hands of any other power? Are we forgetting what becomes of those areas that fall under Russian control or the control of its insurgent proxies? Mass deportation of their children (genocide); summary execution in the streets; in short, the horrors of Bucha.
Yes, because such independence is an utter farce, and they exist as Russian puppets in all but name.
The parallels between Georgia and Ukraine are remarkable. Areas were de facto invaded by Russia (under the initial guise of "independence movements") and remain under de facto Russian control, enforced by the military. The main difference is that Georgia has absolutely no power to recover its missing provinces, so Russia doesn't feel any need to formally rush through annexation to bolster its justification for occupying them.
Remarkably convenient that all roads, even ones that are ostendibly opposites-- quashing independence movements or funding "independence" movements-- eventually all just lead back to being subjects of Russia.
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Looking back at the military the Russian federation inherited, I truly think that targeted violence against civilian targets is a key component of their doctrine.Russia has shelled yet more civilian areas in Kherson, including a shopping mall, killing 16 more civilians.
Death toll rises to 23 after Russian shelling of Ukraine's Kherson, governor says
Russian shelling killed 23 people in and near the southern Ukrainian city of Kherson on Wednesday, hitting a hypermarket, a railway station and residential buildings, the regional governor said.
Their primary targets continue to be civilian areas, intending to maximise civilian casualties: apartment complexes before sunrise, hypermarkets during rush hour, just in the last 3 days. Quick reminder that this qualifies as war crime under international law, and state terrorism under most recognised definitions, including those that the Russian government legally acknowledges.
I'm reminded of how Nazi Germany, when the war began to turn against them, intensified efforts to massacre civilians rather than refocusing resources on actual military strategy. Because for them, the killing itself is an indispensable goal.
My maternal grandfather would have been a few kilometers away when that picture was taken. He was a Holocaust survivor who joined the Red Army to fight the Germans. At the same time, my paternal grandparents were in Kazakhstan after the Soviets forcefully deported then from eastern Poland in 1939.Oh, depending on your timezone, 78 years ago was the 2nd of May, 1954, which saw the Soviet flag raised over the Reichstag.
Towards the end of a Soviet campaign to take the capital of Nazi Germany. Just thought I'd put this here for no real reason.
