Universal Porn Filter Coming to the U.K.

[Caffeine_Bombed]

PORNOGRAPHY IS RUINING OUR CHILDREN!!

Oh, fuck off UK. Knowing about sex doesn't ruin your fucking kid's childhood-- having all of your hopes and dreams crushed by the grinding block of tedius social obligations does. If you want kids to be innocent for long, lessen their fucking work load and stop trying to turn schools into competitive careers

Please tell me that wasn't deliberately aimed at the entire United Kingdom.
Our toff Government doesn't speak for every resident of this country...

 

[Matt Dellar]

Wait, this guy is conservative? Aren't conservatives supposed to be against empowering the government more than it already is?

Regardless, I have a feeling Google DNS is going to become very popular in the UK very quickly.

 

[Zipa]

I wonder if the EU knows what this dick running our country is doing? I'm pretty sure that making this on by default violates human rights and freedom laws of different magnitudes.

Either way nothing much is going to change, Google already does filter this sick twisted shit out, the parts of the internet that deal in child porn already have ways to not be detected and don't show up on mainstream search engines anyway.

Another thing is how will this work (it likely won't) with social networking sites like twitter, tumblr ect there is porn on them to. Are people going to have to opt out of having them blocked to even if they use them for you know talking to people and not porn.


Also filters will be turned on by default on all new computers by default by 2014... yeah good luck when a lot of computers are self or custom builds by people who buy the parts off Amazon or Ebuyer ect.


All in all it seems like a less than subtle attempt by this moron government who no one voted for to try to seize control of the internet. It is all moot anyway as Google DNS (as well as many other DNS providers) is a thing. Any kid with some more or less basic computer savvy will get round this, and more so now than ever kids are getting better and better with computers from a younger age.

 

[-Dragmire-]

Looks like that one lawyer suing Apple should move to the UK.

"...but because I feel profoundly as a politician..."

Silly person, politicians don't have feelings.

 

[lacktheknack]

Why not opt-in?

Why not get a standardized and free nanny-software up and running and raise awareness of better paid-for versions, like the current anti-virus system?

I'll give him one point, I'm increasingly convinced that current parents are completely unqualified and unable to parent.

 

[Cavouku]

"Not the porn." was probably the first thing that popped into my head upon reading this.

This video is very close to applicable if you replace "Chinese" with "British". Though I don't believe the British currently have any restrictions on child-count. As for complaining, well, I'll let the actual British here answer that for you. I'm fairly certain that they DO, however, limit how many assault rifles one is allowed to have.

I'm Canadian, not British, and I doubt this'd ever really effect me directly, but seriously; that's just not cool.
He can't honestly expect this to go down without some sort of tumultuous shitstorm, can he?
Or is that part of his master plan...

...No, he doesn't sound that smart...

 

[Adam Jensen_v1legacy]

PORNOGRAPHY IS RUINING OUR CHILDREN!!

That's actually true. Porn addiction is a real thing. And every study about porn users so far had revealed that it can be quite damaging. I will refer you to this set of videos titled "Your brain on porn". It's very interesting and educational. And it will change your perspective on porn.

Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aS9vumF6JMU
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxrG6QZ-G0M
Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOsF81sC4vo
Part 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGwIrmF1Z6k
Part 5: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQgUzACfTHI
Part 6: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQQRHdPri2s

Even though I don't like censorship, this isn't actually a bad thing.

 

[Andrew_C]

Funny thing is, in the UK the Internet Watch Foundation already automatically blocks all child porn on the Internet that they are aware of at the ISP level. And all ISPs have to be a member.

This is just for lazy parents afraid of a little skin, who couldn't be bothered to install some software that usually comes free with an ISP account these days and adjust some account settings.

 

[Festus Moonbear]

Oh, please! Stop scaremongering, people. This law has already existed for television since .... the invention of television, without any dreadful consequences for liberty. They're not coming for your guns. You can still have your wanks once you've opted in to it again. People with kids appreciate this, although they shouldn't rely on it.

 

[Sixcess]

I'm all for blocking access to rape and child porn

I'm not.

Because I don't know what they mean by 'rape porn',and I doubt they know either.

Pretty much every 'rape porn' movie on the internet would be better described as badly-acted-and-unconvincingly-rough-for-the-first-few-minutes porn... but based on the way the government defined 'extreme' porn a few years ago I expect a vague and dangerously broad definition for 'rape' porn. If neither the government, nor the police, nor judges nor juries are exact in their definition then people will have their lives ruined when they go on the sex offender list and/or go to jail for possession of entirely consensual pornography.

 

[Wuvlycuddles]

This so called censoring isn't worth a damn.

First of all, it can't possibly cover everything.
Secondly, it only takes one kid with parents/siblings who have opted out to e-mail out pictures/videos to all their friends.

I am very worried that this is the "foot in the door" for more obnoxious, more ubiquitous censorship. Also worried that the less tech savvy will buy into this bullshit and think the governments is doing such a wonderful job protecting our children.

 

[wooty]

Bullshit. This whole thing is bullshit. Let the parents in this country do some parenting for a change.

 

[razer17]

Great. This is ridiculous. I'm 22. I have been allowed to watch porn for a while, but there's no way in hell that I'm going to ask my dad to make sure the ISP doesn't block porn.I mean, it's easy to get around, but it's the principle of the thing.

 

[NightHawk21]

Another thing is how will this work (it likely won't) with social networking sites like twitter, tumblr ect there is porn on them to. Are people going to have to opt out of having them blocked to even if they use them for you know talking to people and not porn.

See that's what I'm worried about. What's going to happen to sites that host porn but aren't porn centric. Let's take reddit for example. Reddit has plenty of stuff that isn't porn, but it hosts a lot of subreddits that are porn-centric. Wonder if they'll block the whole site or what. Hell even youtube has some mature content, which while not porn could be considered more suggestive. Are they going to shut down youtube too?

 

[Zipa]

Oh, please! Stop scaremongering, people. This law has already existed for television since .... the invention of television, without any dreadful consequences for liberty. They're not coming for your guns. You can still have your wanks once you've opted in to it again. People with kids appreciate this, although they shouldn't rely on it.

I have a daughter and think this is a poorly thought up idea, its pitifully easy to bypass and kids are much more computer savvy now than ever. That and google and the other search providers already filter child porn anyway. Its a PR move to make Cameron and the tories look less shit.

The creators and distributors of this kind of sick shit already have systems in place to make them hard to find and keep them hidden. If they just showed up on a search engine then it would be easy to catch them.

Besides all the tools to stop kids seeing this already exists, provided by ISPs, routers and browsers as well as third parties in the form of software .
Plus people should actually be parents and watch what their kids are doing. Granted it can't be done 24/7 but that is where said tools come in.

Freedoms should not be infringed on because some people are too stupid/lazy to actually use the tools given to them. Hell even my parents who are 56 know and use parental control on their computer because of their grandkids.



The UK and Tories attitude to sex is what is causing a fucked up youth not the internet. There is a reason the UK has the highest teen pregnancy in Europe and a open and liberal country like the Netherlands where sex and sexuality are discussed and displayed openly not shunned it is the lowest in Europe.

 

[Phrozenflame500]

Thank God the government is protecting us from porn.

I mean, if our kids saw porn, we might actually have to explain to them how sex works and why you shouldn't watch porn. Thank God the government is protecting us from parenting.

 

[omega 616]

There are two kinds of people, those who watch porn and liars ... this fuck knuckle is a politician so I am asumming he is a liar.

Want to shame me into saying I watch porn? No problem, but if kids want porn they will get porn.

I am curious to see if Anon will "bring the noise" when this gets implemented.

 

[Zipa]

Another thing is how will this work (it likely won't) with social networking sites like twitter, tumblr ect there is porn on them to. Are people going to have to opt out of having them blocked to even if they use them for you know talking to people and not porn.

See that's what I'm worried about. What's going to happen to sites that host porn but aren't porn centric. Let's take reddit for example. Reddit has plenty of stuff that isn't porn, but it hosts a lot of subreddits that are porn-centric. Wonder if they'll block the whole site or what. Hell even youtube has some mature content, which while not porn could be considered more suggestive. Are they going to shut down youtube too?

Its more likely that sites like Reddit and Youtube who are not porn focused but do have some mature content won't be effected as the Tories and their advisers just don't get the internet and its nuances, and thus they won't of even heard of things like Reddit or Tumblr.

 

[NightHawk21]

Another thing is how will this work (it likely won't) with social networking sites like twitter, tumblr ect there is porn on them to. Are people going to have to opt out of having them blocked to even if they use them for you know talking to people and not porn.

See that's what I'm worried about. What's going to happen to sites that host porn but aren't porn centric. Let's take reddit for example. Reddit has plenty of stuff that isn't porn, but it hosts a lot of subreddits that are porn-centric. Wonder if they'll block the whole site or what. Hell even youtube has some mature content, which while not porn could be considered more suggestive. Are they going to shut down youtube too?

Its more likely that sites like Reddit and Youtube who are not porn focused but do have some mature content won't be effected as the Tories and their advisers just don't get the internet and its nuances, and thus they won't of even heard of things like Reddit or Tumblr.

Then I imagine Reddit is going to be getting a whole new set of british users, and the filter will prove pointless. I'm curious to see if 4chan will be blocked.

 

[PoolCleaningRobot]

Fun fact I learned from my psychology professor who's expertise was human sexuality: studies show that communities with easier access to porn have lower rates of sexual violence. I don't want to sound too grim and cynical by saying this but humans are sexual and sometimes violent beings by nature and evidence that simulated sex (porn) and simulated violence (video games, movies) actually do people more good by letting them get off. Otherwise you're only left with acting out on these emotions. So by all means Cameron, lets just see what happens when some of these hormonal and underdeveloped teens without any outlets for relief will do when their porn gets cuts off (assuming they can't get around it anyway)