Unskippable: Star Wars The Old Republic
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I was never that great on Star Wars canon, but a few things...
The Jedi did have lightning, and the sith had black light sabres, and then changed it to red. Not sure how far back this was though.
Also, how come the empire ships look exactly like they do later on? And I thought the Jedi only got clones after the second movie?
WTF is up with the continuity of this game???
Oh, and good episode! I just figured I should ask given that someone around here have to know.
The Jedi did have lightning, and the sith had black light sabres, and then changed it to red. Not sure how far back this was though.
Also, how come the empire ships look exactly like they do later on? And I thought the Jedi only got clones after the second movie?
WTF is up with the continuity of this game???
Oh, and good episode! I just figured I should ask given that someone around here have to know.
I'm pretty sure its something in a contractual agreement that any time Lucas uses Johns music, it has to be the same, because he was just that damn good. XDKeith K said:
OT: I suppose the Republic is Union, since it hates those Rebs. Still, I never got why yo ucouldnt wield red as a jedi (dont dare quote me star wars fan boys, There's no reason in any of that history someone couldnt have said screw it, I'll use red and prove I'm not evil. espeically since Adi Gallia used on in SW Ep 1: Jedi Power Battles and much of her Jedi history), and sith couldnt use other colours. I mean, a Sith lord wielding a Yellow Lightsaber would be awesome.
I'm glad that there are people like you and Vrach posting in these threads. I don't understand all the hate for TOR on these forums either. Rather than just enjoying what Bioware has spent years of effort to bring to us, they just tend to react as though it's being forced down their throats. People complain about the music, which, as has been mentioned several times in this thread, is including 5+ hours of completely original music, which you would know if you went up to the site and watched some of the videos up there. People complain about the gameplay, which they've not experienced for themselves and yet consider themselves experts on. People complain about the story, which Bioware has been working on with a team of 12 dedicated writers for over 5 years now, and they've said it has more story written for it than all of their other games combined.Labcoat Samurai said:
Criticism I could understand, but just trashing the game and saying it'll fail doesn't add anything to any discussion. It's not constructive, nor does it accomplish anything other than making yourself look like a petulant child. If you don't like it, that's fine, but you don't need to vocalize your opinion if it has no purpose.
Also, a dark jedi has used a yellow lightsaber before, in Dark Forces II, and ancient sith lords utilized sith alchemy to create swords that could compete with lightsabers, such as Naga Sadow's Poison Blade. If you have any questions about the Star Wars universe, I heartily recommend Wookieepedia as a resource.
Exactly how I felt when I saw it at first.hawk533 said:
I kept bouncing back between feeling that the trailer was cheesy/cliche and that it was awesome.
On the subject of triple light sabers, I think it would actually be more impressive for a Jedi/Sith to hold off larger numbers of Sith/Jedi with only a single blade.
And in regards to the apprentice being more successful, yeah, it would've made more sense (to a general audience) if the Sith Master at least wounded the Jedi so that he would be easier to finish.
My nerdy explanation (for less general audiences) would be that the apprentice was probably just as powerful if not more so than his master by the time of that battle. He probably had been waiting for the right moment to overtake his master, Sith being treacherous and all that.
Well a cowboy getup is actually sort of useful on a planet such as Korriban while for example a samurai armour isn't really useful for anything in a SW universe except maybe against Ewoks and...Graham_LRR said:
Damn it, I don't know how to continue with the discussion without sounding like I was actually offended or something, when quite the opposite, I'm always looking forward to a new Unskip and really got a got a good laugh out of this episode and kind of agree with you anyway.
I know it was a just a line, intonation of a message is always difficult on a forum. I put a freakin' "bdcjacko said:
" at the end and all...meh, nevermind, it was good episode.
Have you noticed that every MMORPG has some backstory or plot running in the background? It's sad, really, someone had to write all that only for the average player to ignore it, as knowledge of the backstory has no effect on the game whatsoever.drosalion said:
Unless the 'plotline' isn't simply flavour text to go with your fetch quest, Bioware is wasting their time.
Because I could not care less if I tried about MMOs. I would have crawled over broken glass into a burning shop to buy a new console if there was a KOTOR 3 on it. Apparently, there'll be a book coming out to finish off Revan's story, so I guess that's some sort of consolation.Labcoat Samurai said:
For people who have no interest in videogames.
I wonder if anyone calls him Maurice.Graham_LRR said:True. The point I was making is that despite the Jedi being samurai, none of them actually dressed exactly like an actual from-Earth samurai. That was guy was just straight up, a cowboy.anian said:...dissing SW about a space cowboy, when the Jedi is more than a copy of a samurai...we've passed the whole "this is a space version of something" way long ago.
Cookie for reference deal.
Forgive me for getting technical, but wouldn't a "No-blade lightsaber" just be a fancy looking stick?
That aside, I loved the video, I wish I had the money to afford a monthly subscription to an MMO.
That aside, I loved the video, I wish I had the money to afford a monthly subscription to an MMO.
*sigh* I think star wars is actually starting to feel stale... How predictable was that fight? The Master takes on the sith alone when he could have easily escaped with his apprentice, thus condemning himself to a death that would have been heroic had it been necessary. He even tried to impress with 3 lightsaber blades which end up looking like it would be more of a burden than an advantage. The sith apprentice then steals his trick and of course kills the doomed master (i guess the guy with the most blades does win...). The only twist was that the sith lord survived long enough to be killed by his apprentice.
tOR just feels like it is trying so hard to be cool but failing because it can only impress with spectacle that fails to be anything more than spectacle.
tOR just feels like it is trying so hard to be cool but failing because it can only impress with spectacle that fails to be anything more than spectacle.
When the jedi started twirling three lightsabers I split my sides laughing, WITHOUT any commentary. The crack about Hans Marsden's mother did make my day though.
Dude... I totally recognised Darth Malak and Darth Revan in this : D
I feel like such an accomplished nerd for someone who knows sod all about the extended universe.
I feel like such an accomplished nerd for someone who knows sod all about the extended universe.
Well, it's starting to look like a mess. I was originally enthusiastic about this game. The KOTOR universe was Star Wars with it's own style, and genuinely looked like an earlier era in the Star Wars universe. But now they're trying to shoe horn in as many different styles as they can... leading to a very oriental jedi standing next to a space cowboy. I know they always had this, but if you put Han Solo and Luke Skywalker together, they still look like they share a world, even though their costume designs harken back to a cowboy and martial arts gi. Layering on the clone wars art style to the already established, more realistic, KoTOR style makes the transition to MMO more awkward. To put it simply, it doesn't look how people remember it. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but it's an odd choice when you're already making a radically different type of game.Labcoat Samurai said:
They're also cutting corners in terms of game design. Although it looks like they have 8 classes, it's fairly clear that they simply have copies for both sides. Again, there's nothing wrong with this in an original game. But here, a title such as Sith or Bounty Hunter already carries a unique character, which can't simply be overlaid onto another title with different animations. To put it simply again; a passionate Sith will have the same play style as a serene Jedi. A cunning bounty hunter will share mechanics with a meat head trooper. And as an aside... isn't it a little odd that the Sith, a militaristic organisation with their own distinctive looking soldiers does not, in fact, have a soldier class? This was done because the 'Republic Trooper' was popularised in the Clone Wars saga, but is out of place since they were a new concept then, and did not exist before Palpatine created them. In fact, it wouldn't be too far a stretch to imagine them being a Sith idea, which he sought to resurrect. Again, an odd choice, at odds with the established universe.
And you're right. It is interesting that they're exploring the other parts of the Star Wars universe, other than the Sith and Jedi. But they're crippling the great developments of the KoTOR story to do it. In KoTOR they were making Sith and Jedi more morally ambiguous, and thus, were becoming a lot more interesting. But as that cinematic shows, they're rushing back to the Sith bad, Jedi good mentality. He DOES look like Satan! This is leading to some fairly silly ideas, such as Smugglers being good guys. Han Solo was a good guy, it's true, and also a smuggler. But he's an exception, which made him interesting. Putting the smuggler on the 'good side' they're saying that smuggling, an illegal activity, is morally correct. Which is just... silly.You could argue that player characters are also exceptional smugglers, but with the ammount of players playing, well, that will be a little silly to say as well.
I'm not saying I wont't play the game. I'm just saying that the vitriol people have against this game is that it looks like a mess of ideas, without a whole lot of real thought put into it. Or at least any thought beyond, 'It was in the movies/games/books let's copy and paste'.
Hope that clears it up for you
Korriban has been blockaded since the Great Galactic war, and smuggling sith artifacts out of that blockade would be criminal activity; he was being escorted by clone troopers as well and Jedi. Also, the handcuffs kind of give it away.samsonguy920 said:
Kreia
rocked triple Light Sabers before they were cool.
These Jedi and Sith (maybe they should be called Caora Sith?) are such goose-stepping conformist poseurs.
Apparently, one's power in the Force depends on how many flashy moves and gadgets one can 'force' into any given encounter. How much further will it go? How long until this is canon?
Soon, hopefully. I want to see a 30-way quadruple Light Chainsaw battle in the Old Republic! Can the Galaxy hope contain so much stupid awesomeness/awesome stupidity?
a.k.a. Darth Traya
These Jedi and Sith (maybe they should be called Caora Sith?) are such goose-stepping conformist poseurs.
Apparently, one's power in the Force depends on how many flashy moves and gadgets one can 'force' into any given encounter. How much further will it go? How long until this is canon?
Soon, hopefully. I want to see a 30-way quadruple Light Chainsaw battle in the Old Republic! Can the Galaxy hope contain so much stupid awesomeness/awesome stupidity?