Kinda' clenching my fists here. I'd suggest you read the comic before passing judgement. It's about growing up, becoming a parent and accepting loss. It's genuinely brilliant.l3o2828 said:
Update: Apple Bans Saga #12 For Gay Sex Scene
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I can't condone sexual censorship unless it's something violent and illegal. 18+ rating exists for a reason.
I've got to back you up on this. I was quite impressed with Saga. Granted, it has some surprising imagery and it certainly is different than much of what I usually read, but the story is outstanding! The writing is superb and even the visuals work once you start reading it. It's a shame Apple is giving this one a hard time. It is one of the more original comics I have read in a while and well worth checking out.Grey Carter said:
Why make anything?l3o2828 said:
I'm not a reader of this series, but the "It looks stupid, why makes this" comment REEKS of ignorance. Literature shouldn't be censored, even if you think it's "stupid".
I also agree with Grey, read it first at the very least.
Alright, Mr.Carter...I will give this a read eventually.Grey Carter said:
My hands are currently too full, as i began reading some Sci-fi 'Classics' Such as the first 3 Dune novels, Ender's Game...That and college doesn't even let me progress on that...i'm not sure why i'm saying this.
If you read my comment, i make a point that I AM Against censorship in any form. But i have a hard time feeling bad about it when a work seems to reek of misguided pretention to maturity by adding tons of sex, T&A and gore....But heck, if people tell me that the actual content is well written and compelling, i will give it a try if just to form an opinion on something that doesn't seem to be marginally and globally disliked and MIGHT be good.Waaghpowa said:
**head-desk**
Wow. Apple, really? You have no problem with the rest of that, but a little gay sex and you're all offended?
Whatever. I won't buy your products anyway - this just gives me one more reason.
Also... why have I never heard of this comic before? Must now read backlog.
Wow. Apple, really? You have no problem with the rest of that, but a little gay sex and you're all offended?
Whatever. I won't buy your products anyway - this just gives me one more reason.
Also... why have I never heard of this comic before? Must now read backlog.
Read the comic. Void the old cliché you shouldn't judge a book by it's cover, Saga is one of the best comics currently out there and just because it's liberal with sex doesn't mean it's all about sex and doesn't detract from the narrative, some of the best things out there are liberal with sex, a song of ice and fire/game of thrones, breaking bad both good things that don't shy away from sex or make it a big deal but use it as part of the narrative. Sex is a part of life, even the freaky shit.l3o2828 said:
OT: I'm concerned about this because the problem doesn't seem to be the sex scene, since Saga has plenty of sex scenes, but more the fact it's a gay sex scene and if the reason is that it's a gay sex then apple seriously need to rethink their ways because that is sickening. Saga has a lot of weird things in it and gay sex isn't weird in the first place and no where near as weird as anything else that happens in Saga.
WHY DO WE NOT HAVE MORE COMIC BOOK NEWS?!Grey Carter said:
I haven't read the comic -- maybe I will and maybe I won't in the future -- but Apple's censorship has always irritated me. While I understand they need to protect minors from seeing this material, due to laws and all that good stuff, there is a reason for parental locks is there not? Apple seems to just define, sometimes arbitrarily, what they deem "fit" to land on their App Store.
And the fact that they're banning this over "postage-size" images of gay sex? *shakes head* In all fairness, ban all the issues that contain sex so we can be equal, alright?
After all this, I want to buy the comic at my local store, not only to show support for the people who create this but also to tell Apple that I can do without them. Not that they care yet the publishers might.
And the fact that they're banning this over "postage-size" images of gay sex? *shakes head* In all fairness, ban all the issues that contain sex so we can be equal, alright?
After all this, I want to buy the comic at my local store, not only to show support for the people who create this but also to tell Apple that I can do without them. Not that they care yet the publishers might.
Again, you haven't read it, so you're not qualified to judge it. You're example could easily be applied to something like the Game of thrones series that people hold in such high regard. To me it's just LOTR with more gore and T&A, but I don't go around saying it's misguidedly pretentious because of it.l3o2828 said:
As I said in my response above, that might very well be the issue here. Exactly what kind of protections does Apple have on it's app downloads? The point here might very well be that a kid under the age of 18 could easily obtain this without any kind of safeguards in place at all due to it being classified as part of an app.Adam Jensen said:
The way it sounds to me (as I said) is that we probably saw a specific complaint about this, given that the content isn't inherantly illegal, it's probably a matter of a kid having accessed it, and Apple having to make a show of taking action. That's my speculation at any rate.
Honestly, I very much doubt Apple has employees whose job it is to read through comics on apps looking to ban images of gay sex or whatever. If that was the case it probably would have been an issue a long time before now. Someone must have caught their kid with issue #12 or something, and then got pissed that their kid could download "gay porn" through an allegedly safe device.... and honestly they would have a point, a kid has no business with this comic, just the images Grey showed, which include frontal nudity of guys with their wangs hanging out, is not something a little kid should be exposed to especially seeing as the context of the images is meant to be disturbing (as opposed to straightforward or normal) to get fairly jaded adults to go "WTF".
I don't believe I've seen the gay sex scene in question, but this is apparently an "M" rated comic and not something a kid is supposed to be reading by definition.
Give it time, and I suspect once the person making the complaint has moved on Apple will put it back up for sale, they probably just have to make a show of giving a crap. Complaining about it and prolonging the attention it receives is probably going to be counter productive.
CrossLOPER said:
I don't think it was just sex, if this is the first time there's been an issue.
