Update: Firefall CEO Clarifies "Consoles Are Dead" Statement

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Pebkio

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Off topic: Yes consoles are probably dead.

Listen, consoles are going to get just more and more expensive (just like everything else), with all the cost being up front. Meanwhile, computers can be built up to "awesome" over time... 100 bucks here, 200 there. You can take your time.

PC's have always outpaced consoles in the graphics support due to: PCs can be upgraded, consoles cannot. So thpppt.

The console has always had speed and convenience on its side. Until now. Now you need to install shit, and be connected to the internet for all the content. And you have to fiddle with settings. Consoles are becoming just as much of a hassle, if not more of a hassle, than playing games on a PC.

Also, my PC supports all the latest and greatest software for maximum net surfing and it's never a hassle to get third-party "apps" like NCH sound editor or even movie maker.

"BUT!" I hear you cry, "PC settings are fiddly and things could get unstable." Well get your head out of the Linux cloud because I haven't had to change a single setting in two years and it's only ever froze because my room got too hot. Meanwhile, my xbox starts to fall apart if a game gets too busy and I swear it freezes once a day. "Also, viruses!" You know who thought they were virus proof too: Apple. Moot point anyway, because fending off the virus is relatively easy if you aren't doing illegal things. Just learn to recognize what to avoid. That won't be so easy on the console, with all of their processes built in and hidden from you. Like the processes that happen when it automatically loads up what your friends have been sharing. Someday, some hacker is going to virus up your precious share button and then the fun will start.

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Okay, I'm being a bit facetious, but I can be because consoles are acting more and more like PCs with every generation. The last console generation that FELT like it had consoles and not just stripped down PCs was the sixth; with the PS2 and the Gamecube.

So yeah, consoles are dead, because they aren't consoles anymore.

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On topic: Yeah, not much interested in any MMOFPS. As for MMOs in general being on consoles? Pfff bwahaha. I've seen your games fall apart with 16 people playing. Okay okay, maybe it'll work, but the Memorpugas are going to have to be simplified because you only have ten buttons you could possibly use. I don't want my RPGs to be simplified, I want them to be even MOAR complicated. I want a game where I need a database for all of my skills...
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Wait, did I just think of a way sixty skills can be used by ten buttons? Three big sections to cycle through: Attack; Alter; Utility. Five minor elements to cycle through: Fire; Water; Air; Earth; Nature. Hold on, I gotta go write this down...

Nevermind, MMOs could totally work on consoles, but you'd have to specifically design them for the consoles.
 

Strazdas

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Evil Smurf said:
This guy has enough money to afford a gaming computer while not everyone has. A console will have AAA games that support it for the life of the console, which may be a decade. Can you say the same for a PC?
FIrst of all, gaming PC is CHEAPER in the long run, because games are much cheaper. Secondly, yes, i can say the same for PC. unless the next xbox is somehow magically superpowerful singularity machine, consoles will never beat PC when it comes to big money titles. When your console is almost obsolete on its launch, or completely obsolete yet still sold (wiiu?) PC doors were just opened.

Aikayai said:
So if PC gaming AND consoles are dead, why do I have games?
handhelds?
ok, sorry

geldonyetich said:
Welp, consoles are dead and PC is being pirated to death, guess gaming is over. It's all about the ponies now.
hopefully you are aware that consoles are being pirated just as much right?
 

darksakul

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major_chaos said:
major_chaos says "those who make mediocre games should not cast stones". More news at nine.
Upbeat Zombie said:
GAEM JURNALIZM!!!

But seriously, just like the people who claimed PC gaming was dieing. This also seems about as baseless a claim. And really shouldn't be news worthy. At least not without any kind of evidence to back up their claims.
I agree with you both.

Who is Mark Kern and what the fuck is Firefall?
A company with only one product that yet to be released, and its a PC MMO. isn't it a 4 out of 5 odds a MMO will fail in it's first year?

He also make a statement about consoles on this article
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/118825-Firefall-Dev-Cautiously-Optimistic-About-Ouya

Okay I support the Ouya but Mark Kern seems to be bias against consoles because the console companies would not take a shot on his game? I guess Mark Kern hasn't seen some of the PSN library, Flower, Journey, Skull Girls and The Unfinished Swan are all indie titles. SO I am taking it that Kern got shot down by Sony and Microsoft.

Then I found this
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/108506-World-of-Warcraft-Experience-Hurt-Firefall-Development

and this
http://www.firefallthegame.com/

No wonder Firefall looks like World of Warcraft. Yes if you google Firefall you think they are making a scifi team fortress mod for World of Warcraft.

So Firefall is a cheap Team fortress style World-of-Warcraft looking MMO from a guy who left the employment of Blizzard.
And he claims that Consoles are Dead.

Yeah the two guys I quoted above are right.
 

Yuuki

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"Reborn in smaller packages"? So I take it this Firefall CEO hasn't heard of PS4 hardware specs (because they've been out for a while)? Because they're right up there with a midrange gaming PC.
Or perhaps he's implying that PS4 will be "dead" because all that shiny hardware will be pointless since graphics aren't a priority anymore?

Yeah, call me back next week when I see the article "Firefall CEO RE-CLARIFIES "consoles are dead" statement".
At this point I think he should stop making himself look sillier and just concentrate on Firefall :p
 

xpacerx

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Kinda funny how dead wrong his prediction was back then. Consoles are very much alive and previously exclusive PC games are flooding into the console market this generation.