[UPDATE] Microsoft Devastates Autistic Child By Labeling Him a Cheater

RatRace123

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I can't tell if he was cheating or not.
Just because he has autism doesn't mean he's not capable of cheating or lying.

It's bad PR if this continues though, so they'll probably restore his achievements.
If he's cheating then he gets away with it, if he's not then I hope everything works out.
 

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Is Gamerscore really that important? I really don't give a flying fuck.

I don't think Microsoft should make such a big deal about this, but at the same time I'm kinda annoyed that, as others have already said but I'm too lazy to quote, instead of looking at whether Microsoft jumped the gun, they instead go for the sad story of "OH LOOK AT THE POOR KID, HE'S AUTISTIC. THOSE EVIL EVIL BASTARDS."
 

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Okay why does Microsoft care about Gamerscores? Unless I missed something, they're actually practically useless. You can't spend them on anything. All they're good for is a d*ck waving competition "I played 20 games and got all achievements on them. Beat that!"
If you could trade in Gamerscores for stuff on Xbox Live, then yeah I could understand this anti-cheater mentality Microsoft has, but...someone fill me in?
 

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This reminds me of the flood of posts from players saying this exact thing when they kept getting banned for achievement-resetting in Halo: Reach.
 

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Cheaters gonna cheat?

I'm pretty sure Microsoft knows how to find cheaters. If they say something happened, then I'm going to assume something happened. Just because he has autism doesn't mean he gets a free pass in the cheating game.
 
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Jack and Calumon said:
Also, is there much point in throwing in the fact that he's autistic? I'm autistic, but I wouldn't want to throw that around or something. Is it meant to make me sympathise with him?
Unfortunately, I think the fact he is autistic is the only thing giving this story any worthiness of attention in the media world. People get their gamerscores wiped for cheating all the time and I'm sure more than one claims they weren't doing anything wrong. His autism is being used as a sympathy chip--"Why is the big bad corporation picking on this one poor child?"
 

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Tankichi said:
Microsoft. Now attacking Handicapped people for profit.

I highly doubt he was cheating. It seems unlikely that he would cheat to get a high achievement score then when he gets banned he gets upset. It's not a logical move even for an autistic.
Sure it is. People complain all the time about them being wronged when they mess up. Things like "My brother was playing when I wasn't home" or "Someone stole my account and cheated for me, which is why I have such a ridiculous amount of credits now."

Just because the kid is autistic doesn't mean he can't lie or cheat. I deal with kids like this all the time volunteering in the special-ed classes. It's only natural for people to whine when they get caught doing something wrong and try to pass the blame onto something else.

Of course, it is always possible the kid is telling the truth, but Microsoft would be able to tell if someone else had downloaded his profile to a different xbox and hacked his account.
 
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Tom Goldman said:
Microsoft says it's confident that someone tampered with Jackson's account to boost his score in an illegitimate manner, and doesn't currently plan to give him his achievements back.
"Fuck you, kid. We know you didn't do wrong, but we're not gonna do anything about it."

Many years ago, this would have shocked and angered me. These days, par for the Microshaft course.
 

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Kratenser said:
Seems a little cruel to me that they stuck the word "cheater" by his name. Understandably, if someone had been caught cheating, then hell yeah they probably deserve it, but in this case it seems a bit overzealous
What makes this case different than any other?
What difference does it make if the kid is autistic?
 

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Did the news really need to say he was Autistic, I mean lets say my neighbor who is 10. Is accused of cheating on xbox live, and he went to the news. The news wouldnt do anything with the story because so what you were cheating, or accused of it. BUT becuase the kid is autistic, he gets special rights, and some gulit thrown his way. I just never saw things like that.
 

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"lol, gamerscore"

While it's a bit sad that an autistic child is made to feel so devastated, I have to say that it's ridiculous how much people care about achievements and a glorified score counter.
 
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See, that he's autistic makes me more likely to believe he wasn't cheating. Getting obsessed over things is something autistic people do, and videogames, with their clearly defined rules and ways in which to get achievements, are a pretty good outlet for autistic children in particular.

So I believe that it's entirely possible it looked like he was cheating, with a high score over a short amount of time or something, but in reality it was only possible because as an autistic he was so obsessed with getting achievements he played it too much.
 

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Bear in mind people that you can file complaints against other users profiles, and one of these complaints can be because of cheating.

You don't need proof, you don't have a limit on how many complaints you can file against a single person and you don't have to give any reason for doing so.

So basically if you don't like someone and have 50 friends, you could ask them all to file a complaint against someone. While Microsoft will probably ignore a single complaint, 50 or so will get their attention.

What I am getting at is that if someone didn't like this kid then it's easily possible for him to get banned because of them filing complaints against him multiple times.

I had a friend get his account banned for his bio despite the fact that there wasn't anything offensive on it at all, it was a satirical bio about people who make up excuses for losing "Noobs, lag, host" etc. etc.
 

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The_root_of_all_evil said:
Tom Goldman said:
Microsoft says it's confident that someone (probably named Jackson) tampered with Jackson's account to boost his score in an illegitimate manner, and doesn't currently plan to give him his achievements back.
"Fuck you, kid. We know you didn't do wrong, but we're not gonna do anything about it."

Many years ago, this would have shocked and angered me. These days, par for the Microshaft course.
When they say someone they don't mean someone other than him.
 

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TestECull said:
There's two courses of action viable in this situation, and which one should be taken depends on an answer nobody seems willing to give.


If he was cheating, then the punishment should stand.

If he was not cheating, then it should be reversed.
And in either case, autism does not enter the equation.