So far, it exactly doubled the Pebble's incomes. Pebble collected 10 million, so if it will continue in that trend, it will end up with $20 million collected.
Update: Open Source Android Console Fully Funded with $1 Million
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weather you think this is the new wave of innovation or will fail horribly. You have to be impressed with the amount of money they've managed to get. I'll be interested in seeing how much they manage to get.
Eh, I'm kinda annoyed by the statements like, "some of the best, most creative gamemakers are focused on mobile and social games," and "You proved consoles aren't dead," but I'll hope that this console turns out to be what the people wanted and not fail horribly. After all, I'll have to get one if it does turn out great.
Let me just throw an additional spanner in the works here. If Ouya even looked like it was going to be a threat, given that it uses Android and that Android is totally open source then what exactly is stopping either Sony or MS from including Android emulation in their consoles? I was going to say that they could do it for the next gen consoles but I am sure if push came to shove they could very easily role out a firmware update for the current gen consoles that would allow them to essentially do EVERYTHING the Ouya could do.
That's the problem with making a low spec console using an open source platform that anyone can use, if you look like you are even remotely a threat then the guys with the bigger more established hardware can turn round and crush you by doing exactly what you are trying to do.
That's the problem with making a low spec console using an open source platform that anyone can use, if you look like you are even remotely a threat then the guys with the bigger more established hardware can turn round and crush you by doing exactly what you are trying to do.
Please stop with the linux is better than android 4 for hobbyists.
By the end of this year it'll be entirely possible that the ouya will be able to ship with linux ubuntu installed on it. That's on top of the android install, not replacing it, the two working together. Or you'll be able to download ubuntu to be installed side on to the android 4 that's on the console.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57424335-94/androids-new-ally-against-the-iphone-ubuntu/
By the end of this year it'll be entirely possible that the ouya will be able to ship with linux ubuntu installed on it. That's on top of the android install, not replacing it, the two working together. Or you'll be able to download ubuntu to be installed side on to the android 4 that's on the console.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57424335-94/androids-new-ally-against-the-iphone-ubuntu/
This isn't really my area, but I'm not sure it'd be that simple. A big part of Ouya's sales pitch is that they aren't going to hit developers with licensing fees or related costs. Also, all games developed for the console will be required to have at least some free bits (which can mean partially free-to-play, microtransactions, etcetera), and I imagine that luring loads of those games to the 360/PS3 would mean radically shaking up some business models. I don't know if Sony or Microsoft would go that far out of their way just to drink Ouya's milkshake; in fact, I think Microsoft actually said a few months ago that Xbox Live wouldn't be carrying free-to-play stuff anytime soon.Laughing Man said:
I can kind of see a Steam-versus-Origin parallel here. Steam is generally successful and Origin isn't, but EA hasn't exactly been eager to do things Valve's way.
Woo boy. Time for another update. $3.8 million and rising, and you can add $100 from me for when I get my paycheck next week.Greg Tito said:
It does have a USB port, only one so you need to use a USB hub. Another big disadvantage is the lack of an SD card slot. While there is talk of adding these and an ethernet slot, I can also see these being dropped from future production runs to save costs.Scrumpmonkey said:
So basically, if you are looking for an ARM based development system and not interested in programming for the Ouya, you are better of with something like an Ardunio, Raspberry Pi or Beagleboard if you are into hardware hacking, or one of the hundreds of ARM based notebooks & laptops if you are into software.
TLDR: The Ouya is great for people who want to develop for it.
EDIT: seeing as most Android development is done using Java and Eclipse on a PC or Mac (with testing in a VM), they will probably have an addon for the official Android SDK from Google.
Except it's NOT a PC disguised as a console. The onboard storage is limited (8Gb), it has no SD slot and only 1 USB port (I know you can use a hub), so your external storage options are relatively limited and slow.Scrumpmonkey said:They even compare it to "The Apple II" which was, well, a home computer. In a more British analogy its kind of like a BBC Micro or Acorn. Which are, again, computers. The whole "Console its a console honest" thing is to distinguish it from the market.rhizhim said:the funny thing about all this is that they are turning the console practically into a pc.
(upgradable, Programming, open source projects....)
and still they claim
people love it because in secret, it is a cheap and powerfull pc that comes with a controller instead of a keyboard.
And you know what, i think it actually works. Having a platform in the living-room people understand as a console is kind of a neat way to get more mainstream consumers in on it especially in the USA that never really had the bedroom coding boom that Europe had in the 1980s. America is PC gaming wasteland in many respects. Consumers are afraid of PC based gaming solutions. It historically has to be spoon-fed to them. So this is a better solution for a country where there is not the hardware tinkering culture there is here in the UK (see; Rasberry Pi, the entire 1980s etc etc)
On a side note all this "PC disguised as a console" stuff that is going on with this and rumored for the 720 is making my PC gaming balls feel pretty huge. You hear that console gamers? Even the consoles themselves admit they were always just too limited to be a PC and, given the chance, the ultimate evolution of a console is a PC. Feels good man.
Mark me down as having called it. When this goes catastrophically bad and shit hits the fan in a short while, I called it, here, in this thread.
OK heard about this elsewhere, read this article and still don't really get it, or see how this will work.
Who's going to make games for this thing? So yeah $99 for a machine is sort of cheap, but with no games or only "theoretical" games, it's still just a box for $99.
I read "hundreds of free-to-play games" in the article, but I'm wondering who's going to make those? Especially as the userbase will be comparatively tiny. Anyone wanting to make a game will surely release it to somewhere with a large user base such as the existing console, or more likely the PC. Especially free-to-play games. Only a fraction of users pay for stuff, so a tiny fraction of only a small number is not very profitable.
Who's going to make games for this thing? So yeah $99 for a machine is sort of cheap, but with no games or only "theoretical" games, it's still just a box for $99.
I read "hundreds of free-to-play games" in the article, but I'm wondering who's going to make those? Especially as the userbase will be comparatively tiny. Anyone wanting to make a game will surely release it to somewhere with a large user base such as the existing console, or more likely the PC. Especially free-to-play games. Only a fraction of users pay for stuff, so a tiny fraction of only a small number is not very profitable.
I don't think it will go catastrophically wrong, but I do think a lot of people on Kickstarter and Reddit have unrealistic expectations, so there is going to be some serious Internet Drama when it doesn't turn out to be what they expect.Clearing the Eye said:
All games released through their marketplace will have to have at least a free demo. But its a bit of a leap from "free demo" to "hundreds of free-to-play games". Although if you include the Android Marketplace, you could probably stretch it to that (apparently the joypad has a touchpad you can allegedly use with standard Android games).MonkeyPunch said:
They are definitely making some exaggerated claims, though.
EDIT: does allegedly have touchpad on joypad.
EDIT2: Interesting article with a more level-headed view over at Penny Arcade "The reality of the Ouya console dosn't match the hype". [http://penny-arcade.com/report/editorial-article/the-reality-of-the-ouya-console-doesnt-match-the-hype-why-you-should-be-ske]
