UPDATE: PS3 Hacker GeoHot Claims He's on Vacation

Nurb

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Verkula said:
Nurb said:
People can share info on how to crack cable boxes and cable company DVR consoles, and it's perfectly legal in that case (So long as you don't steal cable service and they own the box).
Exactly, and thats whats happening now. People have the box(PS3) and now they are stealing the cable service(games). All thanks to that info.
What? Cracking a DVR or cable box doesn't mean you're automatically stealing service. That's like saying someone is stealing gas when they crack their car computer to make the engine run differently
 

PeregrineFalcon

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I'm quite enjoying the postings of people who just read the headline and post some herp derp in the reply section. It was already on PSX-scene and other boards that Geohot was just taking a vacation.
 

Booze Zombie

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Of course the main focus of his life is a fucking legal dispute, because Sony are the centre of the universe.

Obviously.
 

Justin Duralis

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Uhh Guys, HE DIDN'T RUN! IN FACT, SONY KNEW HE WAS GOING TO SOUTH AMERICA Sony is trying to pull shit while he is out of the country.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=26663445&postcount=4090
Your concerns are completely unfounded. To the contrary, Mr. Hotz has gone above and beyond what he has been required to do. Mr. Hotz was ordered to provide his hard drives and storage devices on which any circumvention devices were stored-- nothing more. As your co-counsel is aware, Mr. Hotz is currently out of the country, so your unilateral demand to have him provide the controllers by noon tomorrow is not only unreasonable, but simply not possible. No explanation is necessary as Mr. Hotz fully complied with the terms of the Court's order.
If it was actual flight, Sony would have been crowing about it.
Oh, no, FACTS!!

Sony Defense Force has blinders to disregard those though.
 

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I'll throw this out there for discussion purposes. Excerpt from 'The Hacker Manifesto' circa 1986:

"This is our world now... the world of the electron and the switch, the beauty of the baud. We make use of a service already existing without paying for what could be dirt-cheap if it wasn't run by profiteering gluttons, and you call us criminals. We explore... and you call us criminals. We seek after knowledge... and you call us criminals. We exist without skin color, without nationality, without religious bias... and you call us criminals. You build atomic bombs, you wage wars, you murder, cheat, and lie to us and try to make us believe it's for our own good, yet we're the criminals.

Yes, I am a criminal. My crime is that of curiosity. My crime is that of judging people by what they say and think, not what they look like. My crime is that of outsmarting you, something that you will never forgive me for.

I am a hacker, and this is my manifesto. You may stop this individual, but you can't stop us all... after all, we're all alike."
 

Blazingdragoon04

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Verkula said:
Nurb said:
People can share info on how to crack cable boxes and cable company DVR consoles, and it's perfectly legal in that case (So long as you don't steal cable service and they own the box).
Exactly, and thats whats happening now. People have the box(PS3) and now they are stealing the cable service(games). All thanks to that info.
He was teaching other people how to commit crimes and engage in illegal activities.

If that isn't against the law then I don't know what is anymore...
 

sleeky01

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Aww Christ!

Sony says he fled the country....George says he didn't. I don't know who or what the fuck to believe anymore.
 

beema

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RT-Medic-with-shotgun said:
Now go look at the page update and see Sony was lying.
Awesome! I never stopped believing. Funny how quick everyone was to believe Sony and give up on this guy. Kind of surprising really. I mean, come on, it's Sony.
 

James Raynor

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Blazingdragoon04 said:
Verkula said:
Nurb said:
People can share info on how to crack cable boxes and cable company DVR consoles, and it's perfectly legal in that case (So long as you don't steal cable service and they own the box).
Exactly, and thats whats happening now. People have the box(PS3) and now they are stealing the cable service(games). All thanks to that info.
He was teaching other people how to commit crimes and engage in illegal activities.

If that isn't against the law then I don't know what is anymore...
You do not punish someone for the capability of a crime. It's like saying that teaching someone hand-to-hand combat is a criminal offense because you could potentially teach someone how to seriously injure or kill someone else.
 

Paragon Fury

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Doesn't change potential tampering of evidence though. Or the fact that now he can complicate the legal process by his being in another country and then doing something dubious.

Or the fact that he still a complete and utter dick with no case and is trying to pass off selfish, ill-intentioned work as harmless and "for the greater good".
 

funkzillabot

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Update: Good. Win or lose dude I would really hate to see you throw away your whole life over SONY. Because Sony isn't worth it.
 

Paragon Fury

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James Raynor said:
Blazingdragoon04 said:
Verkula said:
Nurb said:
People can share info on how to crack cable boxes and cable company DVR consoles, and it's perfectly legal in that case (So long as you don't steal cable service and they own the box).
Exactly, and thats whats happening now. People have the box(PS3) and now they are stealing the cable service(games). All thanks to that info.
He was teaching other people how to commit crimes and engage in illegal activities.

If that isn't against the law then I don't know what is anymore...
You do not punish someone for the capability of a crime. It's like saying that teaching someone hand-to-hand combat is a criminal offense because you could potentially teach someone how to seriously injure or kill someone else.
Knowledge of how to commit a crime is not a crime.

Handing out that information to people with the will and motivation to do it is. Which is exactly what Geohots did.
 

Lord Krunk

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Bahaha, I love how most the people here are biting their tongues after the update. And see, kiddies, why you shouldn't judge a book by its cover!

So the status quo has returned - Sony are back to being a bunch of dickbags, not that they weren't even before this update. Oh well, old habits die hard.
 

James Raynor

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Paragon Fury said:
James Raynor said:
Blazingdragoon04 said:
Verkula said:
Nurb said:
People can share info on how to crack cable boxes and cable company DVR consoles, and it's perfectly legal in that case (So long as you don't steal cable service and they own the box).
Exactly, and thats whats happening now. People have the box(PS3) and now they are stealing the cable service(games). All thanks to that info.
He was teaching other people how to commit crimes and engage in illegal activities.

If that isn't against the law then I don't know what is anymore...
You do not punish someone for the capability of a crime. It's like saying that teaching someone hand-to-hand combat is a criminal offense because you could potentially teach someone how to seriously injure or kill someone else.
Knowledge of how to commit a crime is not a crime.

Handing out that information to people with the will and motivation to do it is. Which is exactly what Geohots did.

So Geohot gave it to specific people with the intent for them to use it for malicious purposes? Can you back that up please?