The point of a console is to make money by letting people have access to a reliable source of gaming. I think developers would like this as they can release a better looking game. They would have to make the game look good and work at the minimum configuration but it wouldn't be hard for them to let games scales like a PC game (handled by the OS and not the user). After all they are releasing the game for PC on the same date anyway.NickCaligo42 said:
If you upgraded you computer with a 8800 GTX in 2006 instead of buying a 360 your games would still look at least the same or better than the same game for 360 or PS3. I would say it was time for an upgrade, personally, but it would still play well.Maraveno said:
GuideBot said:
There was his mistake right there... "gaming" or no, notebooks are not an ideal gaming platform and you will always pay much more and get much less.Maraveno said:
Maybe 2 360's if you don't include a monitor (you didn't include the price of your TV). You won't need the newest from Intel and Nvidia for gaming. These companies makes awesome processors that does a lot of awesome stuff awesomely. But for gaming AMD can cut your price in half and you would only lose 5-10% performance and PhysX. You buy a "good" PC and then you upgrade it as newer hardware comes within a reasonable price range.Maraveno said:
No that's exactly the point, the laptop cost a lot more than a desktop and isn't upgradeable like a desktop. The PC gaming platform is not typified by notebooks.Maraveno said:
All completely fair points, well made.AndyFromMonday said:
If he would have bought a desktop for the same money he wouldn't have a problem maxing things out...Maraveno said:
I got to there and couldn't take you seriously any more, he spent a grand on a gaming laptop? You do know they don't have much power and generally have relatively short life cycles. And if your only going to spend a grand on a laptop of course you wont be maxing everything out, when you buy a "gaming laptop" you pay twice as much for half the power, they are a joke.Maraveno said:
With interchangeable parts, the odds of crashes, driver issues, people messing with things they shouldn't be GREATLY increases which will greatly reduce the reliability of consoles and as I've said 100 times before defeats the purpose of console gaming.Hateren47 said:
I hit my head hard here when I read this, he is certainty not trolling, you are just clearly being ignorant, software has everything to do with this whole idea, like heavymedicombo said hardware without software is useless, and software without hardware is also useless, you can have the greatest rig in the world, but without a bios its not going to do shit.Hateren47 said:
That was a simple miss understanding, a grand is also 1000. Still doesn't change the fact that gaming laptops are underpowered, overpriced, pieces of crap, yeah you'll run a few games on them, but to expect to run everything maxed out for more then a few new games is ridiculous, laptops don't have the greatest (or even decent) GPUs, generally have shit house cooling, and generally 0 options for improvement once bought, cept maybe ram.Maraveno said:
This is all rather irrelevant since it was one small misunderstanding that actually doesn't really effect or change anything I had to say in my original response. You still should actually do some research for yourself, taking your brothers word that PCs need to be upgraded that frequently because he didn't do his research and spent to much on a laptop is stupid.
So basically, you were unlucky when attempting to have a LAN party and that guided you towards console gaming. Fair enough, shit happens.GuideBot said:
Well it is a pretty ridiculous point. Who would release a piece of hardware, which didn't have the appropriate software? And as others have said earlier console expansions have been moderate successes, and the N64 expansion actually made your games look a little better. Also more than a few Nintendo (NES, SNES and N64) games could be seen as hardware expansions themselves because of the added memory in the cartridges. Killer Instinct Gold comes to mind.TheComedown said:
No harm, no fault mate. But tell your brother to make his own account if he wants to make a fool of himself. And yes developers would have the opportunity to add the option of Anti Aliasing, increased draw distance, more characters on screen and generally better graphics but you would not lose anything if you didn't upgrade. You would indeed miss out on something, but not really lose anything. Consoles does not have particular good graphics and this would be an opportunity for them to get quality approaching the PC in this department. It would not be a PC because it would still have a way simpler OS that doesn't do anything other that play games and watch/stream video.heavymedicombo said:
The PS3 is generally a nice piece of hardware but it does not have, what I would consider, even good graphics and certainly not the best. And it could really need a memory boost as it only have 256MB RAM and 256 VRAM.Wilson Driesens said:
What's the point in buying a PC for gaming only? To not be stuck with the same hardware for 10 years if you ask me. Sure it does a lot more than gaming, but for gaming and looking past the mouse and keyboard, being able to update your graphics to play a newer game at a reasonable frame rate, resolution and overall realistic look(if going for picture perfect realism, like Crysis) is a big part of it. I didn't realise that "walled gardens" would make people as ignorant as to believe their 4-5-6 year old hardware is top of the pops. I actually thought they would like to update it without having to wait for the next console 6-5-4 years down the line.V8 Ninja said:
You're still missing the point, drivers are not simply just plug and play, you put in your card install the drivers and pray to god you got the right version, and chance are if this upgradable console thing gets put in practice hardware manufactures will release driver updates, and if your upgrading multiple parts you will run into conflicts or the new version will actually bug out etc. It happens all the time with current graphics cards, I had a performance loss when I upgraded to the newest drivers so I rolled back to the previous version, when you encounter this kind of thing on a console you will be WAY to constricted to actually test and fix these kinds of errors. If tools are released(they will need to be) for the consoles to diagnose and fix this issues look at that you again have completely removed the advantage console owners have by taking away the simplicity.Hateren47 said:
