That line of thinking hinges on Russia not being able to learn and adapt. Even Russian orcs can learn.
Besides Russia is never as strong or weak as it appears to be.
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Besides Russia is never as strong or weak as it appears to be.
No but Trump's contempt and Russian aggression do not end at Ukraine. Once Ukraine falls they'll move to the next victim, and since Ukraine's fall requires legalizing and legitimizing such attacks they'll have ample of opportunity .
Every single argument Putin uses to ''justify'' his invasion of Ukraine applies to every single other eastern and central European state. They were all once conquered and terrorized by Russia which is from where Putin draws his ''legitimacy'' for his invasions, they all have enough neo nazi's to fill exactly zero seats in parliament and they all ''betrayed'' Russia by chosing the west over it.
Oh and Trump hates pretty much all of those countries, and the rest of Europe along with it.
Well, glad to see you've totally misinterpreted the Left and System of the Down
Maybe you should spend time learning what people say rather than just making stuff up
Russia's army has been getting worse and worse throughout the decades, you think they will just be some great world power again any time during your life?
You post like you live in movies; Red Dawn is not real life.
Stop gaslighting me.
Hey its not my fault Putin wants to acquire more territory and the US decided to put the weirdest oligarchs it could think of in charge. Go blame Russia and the US for things ''being like a movie''
Russia's military is a joke. This isn't like say Germany before WWII where we "let" them have Czechoslovakia and they tried to take over the rest of Europe. Russia doesn't have the ability to keep taking over territories. The only people that believe that are people listening to Russian propaganda.
How can mighty military not be able to take over Ukraine in 3 years?
Because effectively all of Europe and up to now, even America has tried their damnedest to stop them from doing so and yet there's still no end in sight.
Without any boots on the ground.
The Russian army can't even effectively communicate with themselves, they used cell phones on Ukrainian's network that revealed their plans and locations. Russians abandoned tanks because they ran out of fuel. The Russian army is a joke.
Russia's failures are due in part to "the valiant resistance of Ukraine's army and civilian defense forces," Kaplan said. "But it's also due to the fact that the Russian army just isn't very good." Seriously, "I've watched the Russian army for years. I knew they weren't good, but I never suspected they'd were this bad," retired U.S. Lt. Gen. Mark Hertling said on X. "Corruption has taken over their ranks, their government, their leadership on a scale that is mafia-like."
Yeah, I think you're completely misunderstanding what the problem is.
The Left has been asking the military to be a world EMT. Going and helping people. What has been happening, is what you call policing in America. They ARENT the same thing
For example, capitalists and the military conspiring to end another country's government or taking over their land (as has happened many times before in US military history) is not cool. Going over to stop Hitler is cool. Or helping after a natural disaster or standing between two armies as peacekeepers.
"The Left" doesn't have a uniform opinion on what the military is for. Some more along the realpolitik end think it's an extension of diplomacy for national interest. Some believe it can be used for external intervention, but only with good moral justification. Some think it should never be sent across a border at all, and when it is, it's always for a malign reason.
As someone who does want less inflation, global stability, and just being a civilian I want Ukraine to win. But the US state is increasingly seeing this as a bad decision. Ukraine winning means the EU gains, not the US. US soft power, credibility is temporary, land is permanent.
The US is mainly doing this to weaken Russia not to save Ukraine help food prices or even help the EU or even NATO. But the Russians are gaining combat experience, and so there are diminishing marginal returns to doing this. Russia will eventually get this right just like Armenia is getting their military drone policy right.
No US president would rather save Ukraine than get Greenland. The proposal by the Danish State is non-credible, it would mean the US gets to send more troops to defend what amounts to Danish land. Why would we do that, we want the land. A chunk of the locals do want to join the US and see Denmark as being either too weak or too small to defend it.
The US is mainly doing this to weaken Russia not to save Ukraine help food prices or even help the EU or even NATO. But the Russians are gaining combat experience, and so there are diminishing marginal returns to doing this. Russia will eventually get this right just like Armenia is getting their military drone policy right.
No US president would rather save Ukraine than get Greenland. The proposal by the Danish State is non-credible, it would mean the US gets to send more troops to defend what amounts to Danish land. Why would we do that, we want the land. A chunk of the locals do want to join the US and see Denmark as being either too weak or too small to defend it.
They have more power behind their pushes than the Ukrainians. And even Russia will learn how to conduct offensive pushes into Ukraine and win that is if France, Germany, or even the UK don't do something about it. Russia has a larger population, and they have allies too in North Korea, Iran, and China.
So do I have this correct? The investigation in Trump's conduct of the 2020 states he's guilty as sin. Then the judicial forces scheme to withhold this rapport until after the election and once the criminal is elected they say ''Lol the rapport is too late. He's president now. Can't do anything to punish him''
Not that I think it would have made that much of a different. Trump being a criminal and having tried to do a coup was already public info and the electorate loudly insisted it absolutely didn't care.
Not that I think it would have made that much of a different. Trump being a criminal and having tried to do a coup was already public info and the electorate loudly insisted it absolutely didn't care.
Report?
But yes. It might get released like Gaetz. But they probably wont be punished. There was a reason why Trump delayed at every turn, making ridiculous claims. He's been running out the clock
No, land isn't permanent, as Ukraine and Denmark (Greenland) are currently having to consider.
In any large enough population, some people will have a certain view. But it seems to me that Greenlanders don't want to be part of the USA any more than they want to be part of Denmark. Potentially a lot less. Denmark allows them far more autonomy than they would ever have as a US colony or state.
They can just take a look at the USA to know what would happen if they signed up to it. Presidents would inevitably sell mineral extraction rights to corporations whether the natives liked it or not because the USA's national interest would be paramount, and pretty much all the money would flow to the corporations and Federal government, bypassing them. Plus that these extraction industries would likely require Greenland to be flooded with immigrant labourers, which would result in the native Greenlanders becoming an ethnic minority in their own land, just as happened to the Hawaiians. Real estate prices go up to meet demand, attracting in even more money to buy up Greenland from under them.
Bluntly, it's incredibly hard to see Greenlanders viewing that as a win.
The USA cannot usefully threaten Greenland economically. It can invade, but the minute it does so it would create a diplomatic crisis, especially with the EU. And no matter what the US peanut gallery thinks, international allies are a major source of power.
No, they don't.
A large chunk of the population wants independence. The last they want is being part of the US and have even less autonomy than currenty. Surveys are very clear about that.
Other things Greenlanders don't want is lose their social net that is held up with heavy subsidies by Denmark, being subjected to the weird US law system or anyone mining their rare earth metals. The last elections there have been won by environmentalist parties that just want to stop the mining and that is also what their gouvernment is currently doing.
Joining the US has only downsides for the Grennlanders.
However, what the independence promoters hope for is getting independence, lettiing the US build/maintain their military bases and getting paid enough for that that is sets of the money they get from Denmark today. And a minority does entertain the idea of mining cooperations with the US. Where the Greenlanders alone deide what is mined where and how much and where most of the profits stays in Greenland.
I doubt it. Why would Greenland which has social safety nets and healthcare give that up? Its worth pointing out that the situation in the US is viewed by the rest of the civilized as completely barbaric and a horror story
Because America is just soooooo awesum that the rest of the world secretly wants to be just like us and anyone who criticizes us is just jealous of our freedumz!