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The F-47 is a replacement for the F-22, not the F-35. Also, we don't want other countries to get the F-47 and the technology due to leaks of the jet to China, leading to the J-20, which was made due to the supersized supply chain around it. China also has six-gen jets, and so does the EU in the making, so if six-gen jets are bad, your country should cancel the FCAS as well.
I mentioned the F-35 because it would not have been remotely profitable without the investment of all the other nations. The F-47 does not have that benefit.

As for the FCAS, yes, it might be 6th generation but fills also the whole of a modern European jet for those who don't trust US suppliers. That was a huge part of the mptivation for this project from the start. I mean, Rafale and Gripen are nice, but eventually they need replacement.
AI isn't a bubble, Putin, Xi, the EU, and even democrats mostly agree that without it, a country is at a significant strategic disadvantage in terms of say drones, or AD. Of course, you, being an EU citizen, would want us to unilaterally disarm.
ChatGPT is not coordinating drones and it never will. AGI is a pipe drean. Every big AI company is only burning money currently. Vibe coding doesn't work. Video generation can't stay coherent for more than 5 seconds. AI costumer service has been a flop everywhere. And the Chatbots mostly still need usecases people are wanting to actually pay for.
We (well, mostly you) put hundreds of billions into AI (datacenters, GPUs, electricity, even new powerplants just for datacenters) and no one has any idea how to ever get that kind of money back. As soon as investor money dries up, it will all come crashing down hard.

Yes but Biden was letting Taiwan walk all over him, and begging him to fund their fabs, and make fabs here. Trump is the one who forced Intel to keep the Ohio foundry.
Oh, yes, Trump is certainly more forceful and less diplomatic. But that is not a good thing.
 

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Oh, yes, Trump is certainly more forceful and less diplomatic. But that is not a good thing.
You forget, by Trump being more forceful, it shows that America is the strongest country, and when it comes to foreign relations, that's all that matters. Diplomacy, relative strengths, none of that matters if you can just threaten the entire world into giving you what you want. And America can do that, because America is just the best and strongest country out there.
 

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Yeah, America is great as long as you're a cis white guy making 7+ figures with no moral qualms about all the shit the people in charge of us are doing lol
Most people are terrible with money. I don't make close to that and can buy a car for cash today if I needed to and I eat out for like every meal. A friend that lives in his parents' house (both them have passed) that's completely paid off got fired recently and said he only has like $400 in his account (who is counting on getting unemployment that I actually don't think he will based on how he got fired). And he's always made more than me besides maybe this year (not because he got fired but because my new job I got last November might pay a bit more than his job paid). How don't you not save at least like $1k/month if you don't have a housing payment? I have 2 other friends that consistently don't have money that still live at home in their 30s (no judgement on that in general), but how don't you have money in that situation?
 

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Most people are terrible with money. I don't make close to that and can buy a car for cash today if I needed to and I eat out for like every meal. A friend that lives in his parents' house (both them have passed) that's completely paid off got fired recently and said he only has like $400 in his account (who is counting on getting unemployment that I actually don't think he will based on how he got fired). And he's always made more than me besides maybe this year (not because he got fired but because my new job I got last November might pay a bit more than his job paid). How don't you not save at least like $1k/month if you don't have a housing payment? I have 2 other friends that consistently don't have money that still live at home in their 30s (no judgement on that in general), but how don't you have money in that situation?
Yes yes, everyone else is just bad at life. We've been over how smart and perfect you are while everyone else is jest two dum to figure out how to survive in this shittactular world.
 
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Yes yes, everyone else is just bad at life. We've been over how smart and perfect you are while everyone else is jest two dum to figure out how to survive in this shittactular world.
If you make just say $40k and don't have a housing payment, how can't you save $1k/month?
 

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I mentioned the F-35 because it would not have been remotely profitable without the investment of all the other nations. The F-47 does not have that benefit.

As for the FCAS, yes, it might be 6th generation but fills also the whole of a modern European jet for those who don't trust US suppliers. That was a huge part of the mptivation for this project from the start. I mean, Rafale and Gripen are nice, but eventually they need replacement.
ChatGPT is not coordinating drones and it never will. AGI is a pipe drean. Every big AI company is only burning money currently. Vibe coding doesn't work. Video generation can't stay coherent for more than 5 seconds. AI costumer service has been a flop everywhere. And the Chatbots mostly still need usecases people are wanting to actually pay for.
We (well, mostly you) put hundreds of billions into AI (datacenters, GPUs, electricity, even new powerplants just for datacenters) and no one has any idea how to ever get that kind of money back. As soon as investor money dries up, it will all come crashing down hard.

Oh, yes, Trump is certainly more forceful and less diplomatic. But that is not a good thing.
You guys are about built two six generation multi-role fighter jets and none of them are carrier capable while the US still is funding the navy’s six gen fighter jet. The EU couldn’t even protect their own trade when the Yemeni Houthis started drone striking their trade. Their air defense would have failed their radars likely weren’t potent enough, many of the ships don’t have over the horizon defenses, and the VLS cells weren’t numerous enough. And while you guys clown on Marco Rubio, and the Fox News Sec Def. I would be afraid of what would happen if Tucker Carlson who’s basically a young Trump would win, and he puts in his cabinet.

Edit: PLTR is using ChatGPT for their kill chain so it will be used in drones in a government or defense version. Taking defense advice from a country that defund their own military/were too lazy to put their one fifth gen while Turkey a country with a smaller economy could do it is sad.
 

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Yes yes, everyone else is just bad at life. We've been over how smart and perfect you are while everyone else is jest two dum to figure out how to survive in this shittactular world.
Buddy I have 55K in the stock market. If I a super mentally ill person can do it. So can most people who have disposable income.
 

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If you make just say $40k and don't have a housing payment, how can't you save $1k/month?
Buddy I have 55K in the stock market. If I a super mentally ill person can do it. So can most people who have disposable income.
Well if two people (presumably in their late 30s/early 40s considering the ages of people left in this forum) have been able to save a relatively modest amount of money by now, then surely everyone else would have been able to win Capitalism too (never mind that like most Americans, I imagine you are both a few bad months away from being absolutely crushed financially and joining the ranks of the homeless on the streets), then clearly everyone else is just a failure and it's not our shithole countries fault that so many people are struggling to meet basic needs, let alone actually get to Live.

Good news everyone, everything is fine!
 

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Well if two people (presumably in their late 30s/early 40s considering the ages of people left in this forum) have been able to save a relatively modest amount of money by now, then surely everyone else would have been able to win Capitalism too (never mind that like most Americans, I imagine you are both a few bad months away from being absolutely crushed financially and joining the ranks of the homeless on the streets), then clearly everyone else is just a failure and it's not our shithole countries fault that so many people are struggling to meet basic needs, let alone actually get to Live.

Good news everyone, everything is fine!
I am late 28-29.
 

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Congratulations for winning at Capitalism.

Hopefully you never roll a Crit 1 and get laid off and be jobless for a few months or have a bad disease or something randomly happen to you that can easily happen to anyone that drops you right back down into The Pit with the rest of us failures.
 
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Congratulations for winning at Capitalism.

Hopefully you never roll a Crit 1 and get laid off and be jobless for a few months or have a bad disease or something randomly happen to you that can easily happen to anyone that drops you right back down into The Pit with the rest of us failures.
I have a disease already. My dad has lung cancer. My mom has inflections.
 

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I have a disease already. My dad has lung cancer. My mom has inflections.
Yes yes, I'm sure you were born with glass bones and paper skin. In the morning you break your arms before going to your minimum wage job, saving thousands of dollars every month with your can do attitude before breaking your legs in the afternoon. Then once you get to the giant home you've already paid off due to hard work, you go to bed screaming in agony until your heart attacks put you to sleep with a smile on your face knowing that everyone else is just bad at Capitalism but you were able to make it all work even with all your problems and no money thanks to pulling yourself up by your own bootstraps!

It's just a shame that about half of Americans are just so bad at Capitalism that they can't even survive a $500 emergency. Clearly this a THEM problem and not an AMERICA problem!
 
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Well if two people (presumably in their late 30s/early 40s considering the ages of people left in this forum) have been able to save a relatively modest amount of money by now, then surely everyone else would have been able to win Capitalism too (never mind that like most Americans, I imagine you are both a few bad months away from being absolutely crushed financially and joining the ranks of the homeless on the streets), then clearly everyone else is just a failure and it's not our shithole countries fault that so many people are struggling to meet basic needs, let alone actually get to Live.

Good news everyone, everything is fine!
It's not nearly as hard to save money as you all make it out to be. Looks like if you make $40k in Illinois, you have $32k after taxes. If you save $12k/year (since no housing payment), you have $20k left for the year. Food and expenses (car insurance, gas, phone, utilities, internet, etc.) should be like $1k/month leaving you with like $600-700 for whatever luxuries you want. How is this some unobtainable financial situation?

I can live at least 2 years (maybe 3), paying all my bills (mortgage payments included) with literally no income whatsoever if I was fired today (that's not even accounting for getting unemployment or dipping into 401ks). You do realize if people properly saved money, they would have so much more power/leverage over employers. If everyone had the same standards at work for pay, benefits, hours, overall treatment; companies would have to agree to those requests because they then wouldn't have any employees that would work for them. This is a way for people to be not so reliant on their jobs and putting up with shit.

Lastly, my one friend I was talking about doesn't have money is because he blows it all on OnlyFans.
 
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It's just a shame that about half of Americans are just so bad at Capitalism that they can't even survive a $500 emergency. Clearly this a THEM problem and not an AMERICA problem!
You see that as "half of America can't manage to save $500 for an emergency". Undoubtedly, there are some in that situation, but I'm inclined to think most of them instead just don't feel like they need to in a world of reliable paychecks, easily acquired credit and loans, and the world's biggest social safety net (both public and private). And normally, I'd aim at a statistic like the 80% or so of teenagers that own iPhones (hard to claim people can't possibly save up $500 when they overpay that much on one phone), but your source conveniently enough spells it out: when asked, 64% of people said emergency savings are a financial priority... which means 36% of people did not agree that emergency savings are a financial priority.

Like, when 36% of people do not prioritize savings, while 32% have no savings set aside, there's a very real possibility those numbers are related. Take out that amount of people who don't actually care, and suddenly the statistic almost perfectly matches the US poverty rate. And now, the story is that for every American that can't afford to save for emergencies, there are 5 who are well prepared and 3 who aren't even worried enough to bother. I challenge you to tell me that doesn't match your experience of America in 2025.
 
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It's not nearly as hard to save money as you all make it out to be. Looks like if you make $40k in Illinois, you have $32k after taxes. If you save $12k/year (since no housing payment), you have $20k left for the year. Food and expenses (car insurance, gas, phone, utilities, internet, etc.) should be like $1k/month leaving you with like $600-700 for whatever luxuries you want. How is this some unobtainable financial situation?
This math pretty much exactly matches my experience when that was my income. $40k per year was enough to cover all my expenses, plus $100-200 per month in shameless waste spending, and then also put a $500/month dent in my student loans.
 

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Yes yes, I'm sure you were born with glass bones and paper skin. In the morning you break your arms before going to your minimum wage job, saving thousands of dollars every month with your can do attitude before breaking your legs in the afternoon. Then once you get to the giant home you've already paid off due to hard work, you go to bed screaming in agony until your heart attacks put you to sleep with a smile on your face knowing that everyone else is just bad at Capitalism but you were able to make it all work even with all your problems and no money thanks to pulling yourself up by your own bootstraps!

It's just a shame that about half of Americans are just so bad at Capitalism that they can't even survive a $500 emergency. Clearly this a THEM problem and not an AMERICA problem!
Buddy, I do have a mental illness, ADHD, and likely anxiety. Do you dispute that? My dad did get treated at the James Cancer Hospital in OSU, and my mom does have infections related to when she gave birth to me, since she grew up before the 1990s when China started getting rich. It's also likely that the abortion rings they put in my mom after she birthed me had an effect.

Despite this, I went to OSU, got a 3.4 GPA, got three degrees (one associate's, two bachelor's degrees), didn't ask for extra time on tests since the paperwork was too tiring, and my mind wasn't as stable back then. Despite this, I still got plenty of As, have 58K(55K in regular plus 2K Roth IRA) in my Robinhood account, and 7.8 K in other retirement accounts (Schwab, Ally Bank), and a 10K Chase savings. I made around 40K without the stocks, and 50K with them, most of it on a high-stakes active trade buy low sell high on FIG. My house, which I helped my parents purchase, went from $330K to around $500K bought in December of 2020 in Columbus, Ohio, near the traffic-heavy 23 in Delaware, Ohio.

I spent lots of money on Costco drinks and food, video games, books, and computer-related stuff, and also some Patreon-like subs for Skyrim mods, and just ChatGPT 20-dollar sub. But what sets me apart.

I haven't taken a vacation since 2014, not even to a nearby city. I buy used computers and look for SSD deals. I use Steam sales unless it's like Battlefield 6, where it will get outdated by the time it hits a sale. I don't drink Starbucks every day or any day or even the Costco bulk Starbucks; in fact, I don't even need to drink coffee(also, it makes me jittery). I buy food in bulk, which is proven to save money, but it gets boring eating the same thing every day. I also use Z-library.sk for most books. I don't use Crunchyroll, I use Reddit. I don't subscribe to Disney+ Plus unless they have The Mandalorian or a show I like on. I don't pay for Discord or Reddit. I yay in bulk/yearly for Nexus Mods, a fantastic UK mod company, thank the British.

Is this fun? No, it's not fun. It goes against my ADHD and my approach to things, but I have saved money, and despite earning $16.40 an hour and working 32-hour days, I still have time to build skills, save money, plus pay the bills. And I have ADHD combined and oftentimes lots of depression to the point where it makes me have flashes of suicide in my head because I don't have a full-time job that fulfills my dream(In the US military or as a researcher), so what's everyone else's excuse for not practicing, say Python Pandas, Pytorch, or even Power BI?

Is Trump a Machiavellian jerk, yes; is Stephen Miller lashing out against Hispanics because of his abuse from other high schoolers at a public high school, yes; could he not have, yes. But if you can't change government policy since you're not an influential figure, you basically have to deal with it. What have you guys done with your lives? You guys aren't mentally ill, I think. You guys don't have ADHD, I think.

And you know what's funny, I am the one who makes the least out of my extended family, everyone in my cousins makes more than me or has a more marketable degree than me. All of my uncles, save for one, make more than my dad and mom.

And for those who question my morality, I would one hundred percent see my house value decrease if there were universal healthcare, housing, and income because I am a civic nationalist, and I would one hundred percent not care if my food prices went up by 25% if it meant no one would ever suffer a famine ever again in the world provided the aid was marked with US flags, and I would one hundred percent not care if I pay more in property taxes if that meant we had universal desalination, and better nuclear technology that gets universalized in the world as long as it meant the US made it with of course French help.

And I have every reason to hate America, I was discriminated against in high school, middle school, and elementary school for my gender, race, nationality, head size, and height( I am 5'6"). I didn't get the best grades because no one told me until recently that I had ADHD, and I didn't get my medication I needed until it was too late. I should be the first person to want to wage war on everyone upper-middle class and richer, given how poorly my school's students treated me oftentimes. There was that one time where I was campaigning for Dennis Kunich, and a school bus full of Columbus City School students yelled likely bad stuff in my direction. I was taken advantage of by a progressive activist group to canvass in areas where they wouldn't even open the door for me to talk to them, and I did this for free. I have never gotten hired at any white-collar position for an S&P500 company, unless you count my 2 weeks at Walmart, where I stopped working there because I would have to climb a ladder, and if I fall, it's game over. My first job was a trap where I made $21.50 an hour when people near me were making a lot more with the same degree.

Yet despite this, I still believe in America, I still believe in enlightenment values, and utilitarianism. I could have worked for APAC, given that I knew multiple Jewish American leaders at OSU, watched multiple 6-day, 1948, and Yom Kippur War documentaries, and they would have accepted me since I was in the college Democrats at OSU, run by multiple people, including multiple Jewish student leaders. Instead, I chose to work in an education company, a non-profit for DV victims. I am not Israeli, and I believe the US should have a more even-handed approach to the Middle East that doesn't kill both of our countries' honor. I was even offered to join the Federalist Society since I was an Alexander Hamilton Society member if I did a law degree at OSU or another school. I declined due to policy disagreements I had with them, despite taking multiple classes with someone who defends Trump's foreign policy, and part of which I agree with, since Obama destroyed the F-22 program, let the US Navy shipbuilding decline, etc.
 
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“Meet the man who built RFK Jr’s kitchen cabinet” goes the title of a recent investigative article in Politico. Yet that man, Jeffrey Tucker, is much more than that. In fact, you can make the case, as Politico does, that Tucker is one of the main driving forces behind MAHA.

We’ve covered Tucker before on this podcast, including two previous interviews with his estranged daughter, Julia—who Matthew will again be talking to in segment 2 today. Derek will then talk to Duke professor Gavin Yamey, who was cited in the article as well. Before that, we return to Jeffrey Tucker, founder of the Brownstone Institute, architect of the Great Barrington Declaration, a romantic faux-libertarian who wants to see the return of childhood smoking and the demise of child labor laws and seat belts, and, as Politico uncovered, a man who had to leave a prominent position at a libertarian think tank due to accusations of sexual misconduct.

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Meet the man who built RFK Jr.’s kitchen cabinet

Leaked Brownstone Institute Emails Reveal Support for Child Labor, Underage Smoking

Brief: My Dad Became a MAGA Power Broker (w/Julia Tucker) — Conspirituality
 
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