US Military Confident it Could Stop a Real-Life Godzilla Attack

[medv4380]

Godzilla cannot be beaten by conventional weapon. When he woke up from his sleep in a Volcano in Biollante the magma didn't kill him. He can literally bathe in lava as if it were a Japanese Hot Spring. There isn't any conventional bomb that would work.

ypou overestimate lava. lava is not all that hot actually. our explosions from conventional bombs are far hotter.

I know you're probably thinking lava's like that nonsense movie Volcano that wiped out LA but could be blocked by a bus for a bit, but really brush up on your science. The lava and volcanic eruption is measured in megatons. It dwarfs our world energy supply of oil several fold. The problem has always been harnessing it. It can't be used as a weapon because it eats though any material you'd use to contain it. Lava is going to be anywhere between 800 C to 1000 C. The Magma which is what Godzilla was actually in prior to the eruption which gets as hot as 1300 C. We have things using phosphorus and magnesium that come close as in horseshoes and hand grenades. They're about 500C but only for a brief instant. They can't maintain it for hours or days.

You have grossly over estimated modern conventional weapons. Go join the Marines. They need people like you who believe that they are superior even when they are clearly outmatched.

 

[Strazdas]

I know you're probably thinking lava's like that nonsense movie Volcano that wiped out LA but could be blocked by a bus for a bit, but really brush up on your science. The lava and volcanic eruption is measured in megatons. It dwarfs our world energy supply of oil several fold. The problem has always been harnessing it. It can't be used as a weapon because it eats though any material you'd use to contain it. Lava is going to be anywhere between 800 C to 1000 C. The Magma which is what Godzilla was actually in prior to the eruption which gets as hot as 1300 C. We have things using phosphorus and magnesium that come close as in horseshoes and hand grenades. They're about 500C but only for a brief instant. They can't maintain it for hours or days.

You have grossly over estimated modern conventional weapons. Go join the Marines. They need people like you who believe that they are superior even when they are clearly outmatched.

Ive seen that movie, but i do not see how it has anything to do with what were talking about. It was one of these movies where fiction was all there was and science was missing. it wasnt even an entertaining one.

volcanic eruptions are very powerful, but they are eruptions, not just lava deciding to move somewhere. techtonic plate movement is very powerful. earthquakes are p erfect proof of that. Not sure how its related to Lava Heat. As you pointed out, Lava is only 800-100C hot. Conventional bomb explodes at much higher temperatures. which is what i was pointing out. and i never suggested using hand granades to kill godzila.
maintaining heat is not important - breaching the skin is whats important. Military is hardly outmatched by a giant lizzard. They only get outmatched when Plot Armor gets activated. Just like with zombies. Seriuosly, zombies overruning military?

 

[Ephidel]

"Your overconfidence is your weakness.".

 

[coheedswicked]

I was really hoping for an actual strategy rather than just "overwhelm with numbers". Seems like that's usually the strategy in the movies and we all know how that works out....

 

[ecoho]

They can't stop a bunch of farmers with 80 year old AKs an no training, I doubt they could stop that.

so you can pick out the person whos been shooting at you from a group of people who look the same? your good.
yeah fighting a giant monster would be a cake walk compare to dealing with gorilla warfare, were you can be shot at from anywhere. Also just want to add the AK-47 is probably the best assault rifle ever made, very few moving parts, fires any size bullet, can be cleaned with a towel and a stick, and finally if you bend the barrel you can bend it back and it will fire just fine.

OT: yeah we would be able to down Godzilla if only for the fact that at some point we would just drop a mountain on him or something akin to one.

 

[FPLOON]

Sure... You say that now... But, what if he's immune to all of your plans?

You're better off asking for extraterrestrial assistance... and hope that they don't betray you in the long run by just making the given situation more worse than how it already was...

 

[Misterian]

What, no giant robots needed against Godzilla, U.S Military?

I kid, really, though now I wanna ask Sgt. Maj. James Dever if he think's the U.S miltary can fare just as well against repeated giant monster attacks like the kind we'd see Power Ranger villains send our way.

 

[SexyGarfield]

Without a doubt in my mind we could take down the combined forces of Super Saiyan level 4 Goku and every single Lovecraftian horror. We would just overwhelm them with superior numbers, simple as that.

It's hilarious to see high ranking military officials debase themselves like this.

 

[Ephidel]

As you pointed out, Lava is only 800-100C hot.

Only just noticed this.

"Lava" varies in temperature and viscosity depending upon the silica content. It can be only 600°C and as viscous as mortar or clay, or it can be up to 1600°C and as liquid as water itself.

2 great contrasting examples exist in the good ol' US of A : Mount Saint Helens for the thick, "cold" kind (which is why it exploded a couple of decades ago), and Hawaii for for the runny stuff.

I mean, assuming you're going down the path of accepting Godzilla within his lore, he can endure inner earth temperatures which, at the Outer Core, exceed 4000°C (the Inner Core almost matching the surface the Sun).

You see, you're arguing against japanese "anything goes, every extreme" fantasy lore here, and that's not something that is known for it's strict and rigid compliance with, for want of a better word, reality. Yes, it's highly unlikely for a Godzilla scenario to occur, but if it were to occur, and this "Godzilla" could withstand a nuclear strike, yeah, Earth's Armies would stand a far better chance trying "The Blob" strategy.

 

[Groxnax]

Well I hope he has a secret project involving giant robots in his pocket, that we don't know about, that he can spring on Godzilla when things get rough.

But I would really pay to see this happen.

Does anyone have a science kit, a lizard and other items to create such a creature. (jk).

 

[Amir Kondori]

They wouldn't need nukes, or even need to go near it. The infantry could concentrate on evacuation, they could just drop GBU-57A/B MOP onto Godzilla and turn him into chunky kibbles.

14,000KG of kinetic death at near supersonic speed followed up by the warhead of 2.4 tons of high explosive, B2s can carry two of them at a time. Unless Godzillas skin is tougher than 60ft of bunker grade steel reinforced concrete he would be smashed apart just by the kinetic impact, after the bomb has penetrated his skin the explosives would go off. This would liquidise his internal organs, his tough skin would work against him as it would contain the thermobaric pressure wave inside his body and reflect and ricochet the blast wave around internally.

Even if it had super regeneration powers I doubt they could sort out literally liquidised internal organs.

One of two things would happen, the munition would bounce off of his thick, leathery hide, and do nothing, or go right through him, killing him before the bomb went off.
A bunker buster also relies on the fact that the concussive force is greatly increased inside of a bunker, so some of the usual force would be lost anyway.

 

[Bertylicious]

Ha! That's what the G-Force said EVERY SINGLE TIME! If they make a Godzilla sequel they should open with him saying to a newsreader; "We'll be ready for them next time, there's no way they can withstand the military!"

 

[DarkBlood626]

The only reason Godzilla wasn't turned into chunky applesauce back in his first ever movie was due to a strange belief people had back then about radiation being some kind of strange magic.
Apparently radiation can make a giant lizard that doesn't crumple under the weight of its own bones, can breathe in an atmosphere that wouldn't support a T-rex, and makes them impeccably immune to physics when its shit like bombs and bullets but not when they are punched by another monster.

 

[kazbiel]

You guys...
If there was a Godzilla, his existence would prove the square-cube law wrong, so that whole 'he couldn't move' argument is stupid. Secondly, whether or not its plot armor is completely besides the point, the point being that Godzilla can survive being at ground zero of an impact event, as well as living inside a volcano for 5 years.
The military would do nothing to Godzilla, nukes would serve only to make him more powerful (Godzilla vs King Ghidorah, anyone?) Sorry, the military loses this fight.

 

[ThunderCavalier]

Without a doubt in my mind we could take down the combined forces of Super Saiyan level 4 Goku and every single Lovecraftian horror. We would just overwhelm them with superior numbers, simple as that.

It's hilarious to see high ranking military officials debase themselves like this.

Hmm... so we're talking about...

SSJ4 Goku - That tanks evil spirit bombs like they were pancakes.

Cthulu - Whose very presence drives people insane.

Now, don't get me wrong... I love our military, but I think that they would be royally screwed against these odds.

 

[demoman_chaos]

Despite being a bi fan of the King of Monsters, I have to say US military technology would do serious damage. Depleted uranium sabot rounds can go through one tank, then another, then a third and leave little microscopic bits of the crew from the first tank in with the few remaining scraps of the third's crew. A good friend of mine was an M1A1 tank commander during Desert Storm, and tells stories about just how outmatched the Iraqi army was.

Oh, what a funny guy that Sgt. fellow is. US military cannot defeat some sheepherders that are hiding in caves, yet they want to take on Godzilla?! No, no, no... they want to win against Godzilla? Ha! Had a good laugh after reading this.

In 1991, the rating of largest armies went China, Russia, USA, Iraq. Iraq fielded among the top 3 largest armored divisions. It was considered among the most powerful military forces of the era. It took the us less than 26 hours to turn it into smoldering rubble. Iraq had only just finished a war with Iran, and the Iraqi Air Force chose to land in Iran and surrender the planes over trying to take on the USAF. The Bradley APC could take down the Russian made T-72s via TOW missiles (the 25mm Bushmaster auto-cannon isn't up to the task obviously), and the M1A1 would walk all over them (the optics allowed the M1A1 to spot the T-72s through thick smoke from burning oil at ranges upwards of 5 miles and accurately score killing hits).

As for the current conflict, remember that if NATO wanted to turn the Middle-East into a pile of ash we easily could with conventional weapons. NATO is in a peace-keeping operation targeting insurgents with the goal of keeping as much of the place in-tact and making sure as many non-combatants survive the ordeal as possible. If we were there to kill them off, it wouldn't take a weekend. We aren't barbarians however.

 

[RedRockRun]

It's a giant lizard. All you need is one C-130 shooting depleted uranium-tipped rounds. I don't know much about modern military technology, but I do know that the US is armed to the teeth with weapons designed to burrow underground, through concrete, and steel and then blow up. Are Godzilla's scales stronger than rock, concrete, and steel? You could take down Godzilla with old, phased-out tech even. Send a single A10 Warthog.

 

[icythepenguin]

So the American military believes it can defeat a giant monster who so far has only been killed when he suffered a nuclear meltdown. Does this mean the US military is capable of inducing nuclear meltdowns in giant monsters? Well its nice to know that the US military has its priorities straight.

 

[Not G. Ivingname]

I was thinking of practical ways I would take on Godzilla, and had a thought about what it would be like to see a battle between Cthulhu and Godzilla. Obviously our minds for the most part would be reduced to insane dribble but, you know, it'd be kind of neat...

Although, all things considered, we would be rooting for GODZILLA in that case. Dealing with a creature that only destroys one population center at a time is LOADS better than the shit Cthulhu would bring.

OT: If Godzilla was real, physics would take care of the problem for us. The square cube law would mean Godzilla would be crushed by his own weight as soon as he stepped to shore, assuming his bones weren't made of Titanium.

If any film version came coming, we would be all kinds of royally fucked against him.