Vacation tips for England

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GonvilleBromhead

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It depends on what you want to do. If you are into Museums, London really is a good place to visit - it some of the best museums in the world, and most are free. Natural History, Science, V&A, British, HMS Belfast, and the RAF Museums are all top notch. And if you care about art, there are some excellent galleries (or so I have been told. I am a philistine). If you like shopping, and have a metric shit ton of money, London is good for that too.

However, if you want a city to wander in and soak up the atmosphere, London...really isn't it. York, Bath, the University cities, and Edinburgh are all better for that. If you want the countryside, the Sussex Downs are probably the most stereo-typically "English" landscape, though there are some stunning places in England such as the Yorkshire Moors, the Lake District, and the Birmingham Bullring (okay, I'm lying about the last one). If you have a morbid fear of hills, Lincolnshire is an option. If you want to go to a British San Francisco, Brighton is the way forward, and an hour train trip from the capital.

If you are looking for country houses, the most magnificent is probably Blenheim Palace, near Oxford. The oddest is probably the Royal Pavilion in Brighton. Castles-wise, Bodium in Kent is pretty well preserved (often used for filming), but TBPH, most are much of a muchness.
 

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Robert B. Marks said:
1. There is no tipping in the pubs, and tax is built into the prices. So, if something says it costs 20 pounds, it means that is what it costs. We overestimated our food budget by about 15-20% trying to account for tips and taxes that weren't there.

(That said, there ARE restaurants where tipping does sometimes happen. So, when in doubt, ask.)
Where you live doesn't incorporate tax into prices? How odd. Only place I can think of around here that does that is Costco.

To elaborate on the tipping thing though - tipping around where I live (Liverpool, come visit the city while you're here!) usually comes in two forms that I can think of. Specifically taxis and restaurants. With taxis its usually good manners to round up whatever the cost is to within something reasonable; usually around 10% or just whatever sounds good so if your taxi was £8.20 you'd probably give £9 and tell them to keep the change, or if it was £14.50 you might give them £16. Something like that. I'm not sure how widespread that is though.

Restaurants its usually good form to tip maybe 5-10% of the bill or thereabouts (typically its kept simple...if the bill is closer to £100 you'd leave a tenner but if its closer to £200 then a twenty). But that's only at proper sit-down restaurants you wouldn't tip at McDonalds or anything like that.


But outside of those two specific circumstances its not really done. Definitely not, like Robert says here, in pubs; its just not a thing.
 

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Come to Manchester! Get stabbed, beaten up, robbed and stabbed again![footnote]If you're lucky, your lovely personal violent nutcase might even throw in some more stabbies for free![/footnote]

On your way up from London to Scotland, I'd recommend visiting Wales, the Peaks and the Lakes. They're pretty.
Also also, find yourself a pub with some real ale. It could be quite an... interesting experience.
 

Robert B. Marks

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Lightspeaker said:
Where you live doesn't incorporate tax into prices? How odd. Only place I can think of around here that does that is Costco.

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But outside of those two specific circumstances its not really done. Definitely not, like Robert says here, in pubs; its just not a thing.
Not here in Canada, and as far as I know, not in the United States as well. Let's just say it was something of a revelation when my wife and I saw it - definitely better than having the sales tax added to the price tag after.

And, funny thing - in England, the waitresses at pubs are just paid a decent wage to begin with (as opposed to having to rely on tips). And, funnily enough, they are legitimately happy to see you (instead of making a show of it because they must). You really can tell the difference.

The English really do pubs better than we Canadians do...
 

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If you are going to Scotland: don't travel North, travel West. The West Coast of Scotland in the Summer is one of the most beautiful regions of the UK: where the highlands drop off into the sea and give way to a landscape of an ancient mountain range jutting through the ocean. If the weather is kind, the result can be so beautiful it is almost painful!



For bonus points, take one of the boat tours (often ran by fisherman making some summer cash) out to the Corryvreckan (the third largest whirlpool in the world, which can be heard 10 miles away at full roar): they will take you to it in slack tide, and cut the engine. Even then, the boat will start to spin ominously. Good times. On the journey there and back, there is all kinds of wildlife to see: eagles, dolphins, whales and a ton of seals.

Oh and yeah, London is great for museums and such. And if you are savvy, it doesn't have to be cripplingly expensive. Only light-maimingly so!
 

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Robert B. Marks said:
2. Travel by train when you're there, and book the tickets early. England has a world-class transit system, and my wife and I never felt the need for a car.
World class transit system? I uh... Well. I can't imagine many of us brits will agree with you on that one, mainly down to ever-increasing ticket prices and frequent delays.


As people have mentioned, Scotland is fucking gorgeous, particularly the west coast. If you're planning to go there in the summer, I would definitely advise staying fairly near the coast unless you fancy being devoured by midges.

I'm a proud Bristolian- It's not necessarily the most touristy place, but there's a lot of alternative culture as well as the SS Great Britain, the Clifton Suspension Bridge and the gorge, Banksy artworks, the cathederal and several art galleries. If you time it right you could catch Grillstock (it's a goddamn barbecue festival) or one of the other events that's on- there's a lot of events in the harbour over the summer.

That said, I wouldn't go to Bristol unless you're going to Devon & Cornwall, in which case it's a much more practical destination. Devon & Cornwall are gorgeous (although likely to be busy in the summer), there's a load of lovely beaches, fishing villages and pubs. If had one piece of advice, it would be spend some time in a good pub. Pubs are dying, and they're awesome.
 

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DragonsAteMyMarbles said:
Also also, find yourself a pub with some real ale. It could be quite an... interesting experience.
If you want a very specific recommendation on this...try stopping off at The Black Bull in Coniston in the Lake District if you go there. And order a pint of Bluebird.


Robert B. Marks said:
And, funny thing - in England, the waitresses at pubs are just paid a decent wage to begin with (as opposed to having to rely on tips). And, funnily enough, they are legitimately happy to see you (instead of making a show of it because they must). You really can tell the difference.
Same goes for waiting staff in restaurants as well. Which is why the tip percentage is fairly low compared to the US (as far as I'm aware a good tip in the US is around 20% or something?) since here it typically really is just a tip, its not a massive part of their wages.


Its still considered good form to give something reasonable though, even if its not actually effectively "required".
 

DocJ

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First things first. PACK WARMLY. If you can't handle a constant outdoor temperature in the single digits (That's in Celsius) then wear layers. Lots of layers. Anyways I live in Scotland so all I can say is visit castles. We are proud of our castles and our history, and I certainly enjoy going to them. Visit as many as you can.
 

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As a Canadian who recently traveled throughout Britain (Southern England, Wales, York, Scotland), I have one tip to add to this thread.

Always make sure you are carrying some small change (like 20p coins). I have a lot of great things to say about my trip there, but there was one bad thing (and to a Canadian a rather shocking one at that). The Brits will charge you to use a toilet. Not everywhere certainly, but no one wants to be caught short and discover that they lack the correct coinage to get into a bathroom.

To be fair I actually encountered this mostly in the North and in Scotland, but I have never before in my life seen such a thing and was honestly shocked to discover that such a thing could be allowed.

Anyway, many amazing places to see if you like history. And lots of beautiful places to see in the countryside (or almost all of Wales). And many great ales to drink! I would add that Salisbury cathedral was very pretty if you like cathedrals (it also has the highest surviving medieval spire in the world iirc at 404 feet). Also, to echo above sentiments, Bath is a wonderful city and the west coast of Scotland is amazing.
 

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Dimitriov said:
As a Canadian who recently traveled throughout Britain (Southern England, Wales, York, Scotland), I have one tip to add to this thread.

Always make sure you are carrying some small change (like 20p coins). I have a lot of great things to say about my trip there, but there was one bad thing (and to a Canadian a rather shocking one at that). The Brits will charge you to use a toilet. Not everywhere certainly, but no one wants to be caught short and discover that they lack the correct coinage to get into a bathroom.

To be fair I actually encountered this mostly in the North and in Scotland, but I have never before in my life seen such a thing and was honestly shocked to discover that such a thing could be allowed.

Public toilets have a charge to prevent them being used by junkies to shoot up in. Vandalism was also common place, by introducing a small charge this things have fallen off.
 

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Don't be fooled by those lying wankers who tell you to visit the "beautiful northern countryside". It's just, dull, grey and full of horseshit. Trust me, I live in the north. There is nothing here apart from people who'd kick your head in for being not from where they are.

To be honest, just do what other people have said and visit Ireland instead. There's a reason that Pub culture is so massive here. There is nothing else to do.

That said, Sheffield's alright if you're very interested in industrial history. But you have to be very interested. And not mind people banging on about steel, Pulp, the Arctic Monkeys and Henderson's pissing Relish constantly.
 

Albino Boo

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Spot1990 said:
Daystar Clarion said:
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Spot1990 said:
Come to Ireland. We desperately need the money.
Don't let them see how desperate we are, dude!
Pretty sure I'm single handedly propping up your entire economy with my visits.

You're welcome.
We're already working on the statue, what more do you want?
Well we Brits normally come to Ireland for your land, women and potatoes. One of those will do, not fussy which.
 

Albino Boo

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Spot1990 said:
Fine, you can have Monaghan. Not sure why we didn't include that in the original bundle. Just don't take the potatoes!... Oh or the women I guess.
Ok we will take Monaghan on the condition of one bag of sexy Irish potatoes is included in the deal.
 

Colour Scientist

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Spot1990 said:
Fine you can have one bag, but I swear to god we better not run out ourselves this time.
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Spot1990 said:
albino boo said:
I always knew that I couldn't compare to the sexy potatoes. :(
Just be grateful we got rid of Monaghan.
Couldn't we have offloaded Limerick or Talbot Street or something?
 

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If you want museums and "culture" go to a Tate museum (there are a bunch, Tate modern and Britain are in London, then I think there's a Tate Liverpool or Manchester as well). Alternatively the natural history museum is incredible, and most of those kind of places throughout Britain are generally free or reasonably cheap, so you can just pop your head in. Otherwise countryside beauty type things you want to be going more North (definitely on a train, not that the trains are particularly good but you won't see anything by plane) and I'd recommend stopping off at the lake district at least for a little while.
 

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Spot1990 said:
Colour Scientist said:
Spot1990 said:
Fine you can have one bag, but I swear to god we better not run out ourselves this time.
Colour Scientist said:
Spot1990 said:
albino boo said:
I always knew that I couldn't compare to the sexy potatoes. :(
Just be grateful we got rid of Monaghan.
Couldn't we have offloaded Limerick or Talbot Street or something?
There's a really cheap pizza place on Talbot street, I eat there a lot when I'm broke. I'd have to renew my passport to eat there. And if we give them Limerick they'll take credit for the Rubberbandits. You got to think these things true, what place offers absolutely nothing of value to the world? Not that it has bad elements but still did some measure of good for the world, we're talking straight up pointless. Monaghan.
They have nice accents though.

Maybe we could give them Louth. Then they might unwittingly take Gerry Adams.