Perhaps you missed my original post, but I mentioned animals as a "food for thought" thing regarding harmful vaccine reactions, the movement of removing adjuvants from vaccines, which are all things relevant to this thread. The vaccination debate is also found in animal medicine for similar reasons, as well as people who refuse all vaccination for their pets for reasons similar to why people don't vaccinate their children. I'm trained in animal medicine, which possibly gives me a unique viewpoint in this thread. Animal and human medicine aren't that different, and advances, products, and concerns in both affect each field. Hell, we use diazepam (Valium) meant for humans to use towards animal behaviour modification and seizure treatment, as well as for anesthes1ia (with ketamine) and as a tranquilizer. The rabies vaccine in cats and dogs (at least the ones I've seen) contains the same strain used in human rabies vaccines. Not to mention animal vaccines are often created by the same companies as human vaccines and follow similar research, marketing, and testing.Deadcyde said:...... not to sound callous, but this is fucking cats we're talking about here, the assholes of the animal kingdom. Hardly a case when there is no analogue in even the remotest sense for humans.
I'm quite aware that vaccine fibrosarcomas aren't seen in humans (they get them from other foreign materials), and nowhere did I say "cats can get cancer from vaccines so therefore all vaccines are bad in humans" if that's what you were implying. While I have an issue with many vaccination protocols (such as over-vaccination, vaccinating non-core vaccines when not needed, and injection locations), I've seen too many cats die from URI and too many dogs from parvo to say "all vaccines are bad". I brought it up as an alternate viewpoint to the idea that vaccines can't harm anything and only provide benefits. Nothing wrong with that, especially since this thread is about vaccines and the vaccine debate in general and not specifically for humans from what I see.
Though yes, cats are assholes. I own one and I deal with other people's cats every day, so I'm aware of that fact.