Huh so anything from generic midrange pc to titan beast. Kinda pointless specs as its literally any non amd system you would build today. outside the psu and maybe 8gb too much ram.
Valve Announces Steam Machine Prototype Specs
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I think people are forgetting something. Valve won't be selling these machines. These specs are only for the 300 limited production testing machines that will go out to those 300 lucky for testing. Whether the actual units produced for sale by 3rd party manufacturers will have these specs is purely up to speculation at this point.
I'd really recommend you read the full announcement for Steam Machines that Valve posted last week. You can find it here: http://store.steampowered.com/livingroom/SteamMachines/Psychobabble said:
To be helpful though here's a few quotes from Q&A section of the page:
Okay, I expected it to be good, but damn. TITAN? 780s? 16 Gigs of ram, all that CPU power.. What a behemoth. Certainly outdoes my rig. Wonder how much it'll cost..
Future-proofing: It is a thing.Charcharo said:
Also, if you run recording software (say, FRAPS, like I do), then all of a sudden, you can't have enough RAM.
Why buy minimal specs if that means that you'll have to upgrade next time you get hyped about anything?
according to...Me55enger said:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-780-performance-review,3516-23.html
...the power consumption of a GTX Titan peaks at about 266W, so if you set aside 300W for it, you're completely safe from a brownout. So long as the rest of the system doesn't peak at over 150W, a 450W PSU is more than enough.
So many people buy more power supply than they need... especially people who aren't running an optical drive...
Andy Chalk said:
That should read 3GB GDDR5 (GPU).
There is no such thing as DDR5 RAM. GDDR5 is a high bandwidth, higher latency version of DDR3.
DDR4 hasn't even been released yet.
Some of those specs are a bit crazy but it is clear that they are trying out a large number of configurations just to get an idea of the sweet spot. Most games will run perfectly on an i5/GTX660 system. My PC runs everything with a late model Core 2 Quad and GTX 760 with no issues.
Erm, they arent going to overshoot anything. This boxes are just for testing and will not be comercialized. There will be no steamboxes made by valve other than 300 test ones, and those will be given away.Phrozenflame500 said:
It costs 0$unstabLized said:
Read above. This steamboxes will not be available for purchase.CriticalMiss said:
Every youtuber I've heard talk about this all agree that they have no reason to have this box. They'd rather play PC games in a chair on their computer as it's more ergonomical and comfortable, and they can just plug a gamepad in if they so desire. If any of them actually wanted to play PC games on their TV then they'd already hooked up their PC to their TV and done it all the time.
I just don't see the market for this, I really don't. I imagine nvidia may give Valve lower prices for the boxes seeing as AMD got all the good contracts, but nvidia already love to overcharge in my country so I just don't see that happening. Considering how much valve LOVE geopricing I seriously doubt they won't make us charge more either and they are very anal about IP checking on their steam service.
At least the PS4 only costs $550 but is trivial to get shipped for $400.
I just don't see the market for this, I really don't. I imagine nvidia may give Valve lower prices for the boxes seeing as AMD got all the good contracts, but nvidia already love to overcharge in my country so I just don't see that happening. Considering how much valve LOVE geopricing I seriously doubt they won't make us charge more either and they are very anal about IP checking on their steam service.
At least the PS4 only costs $550 but is trivial to get shipped for $400.
Because a. by the time something with the titan's power is actually needed I will be able to get it for far less than a thousand dollars and B. my HD7950 already does just fine on everything I throw at it and that only cost around three hundred. In other words. yes Future-proofing is a thing, but these specs are overkill even for that.lacktheknack said:
OT: these Steam announcements seem so pointless to me. its like "wow steam has its own OS!! [sub]but its actually just Linux[/sub] and its own console!! [sub]but its actually just a prebuilt PC[/sub]" I already have access to linuix, and I could already buy a prebuilt PC if I suddenly decide I hate myself, so why exactly are those things suddenly special when you stick a valve logo on them?
Remember that these are just the specs for the beta beds that are being sent out next year. There will be other units, specced for people with lower-end needs, and presumably a wide range of options from different manufacturers at all ranges. The truth is that we still know very little about how this is going to work - Maybe Valve is trying to cook up a boutique PC business, kind of like early-days Alienware but with third-party manufacturing partners, or maybe the whole thing is just a branding exercise to try to broaden Steam's footprint.
In the post, Valve basically admitted that these are just high-end PCs in a custom case that you could put together yourself - and they're even going to release the source CAD files for their enclosure, so people who want to home-build the whole thing can do so. But ultimately... it's just a PC.
In the post, Valve basically admitted that these are just high-end PCs in a custom case that you could put together yourself - and they're even going to release the source CAD files for their enclosure, so people who want to home-build the whole thing can do so. But ultimately... it's just a PC.
The "pre-built PC" is attractive to console users who want to try PC gaming/Steam but don't want to learn how to build one.major_chaos said:
Also, every time you say "It's just Linux, so the announcement is nothing special", God kills a kitten. It's the most exciting part of all this: Valve has thrown its weight behind Linux as a gaming platform, so it's going to move that direction now. There's literally no downside to this on our end, and a whole freaking lot of upside.
I love how a lot of people are missing the paragraph directly after the specs.
"To be clear, this design is not meant to serve the needs of all of the tens of millions of Steam users. It may, however, be the kind of machine that a significant percentage of Steam users would actually want to purchase - those who want plenty of performance in a high-end living room package," the post says. "Many others would opt for machines that have been more carefully designed to cost less, or to be tiny, or super quiet, and there will be Steam Machines that fit those descriptions."
So, what we can learn from this (if we remember Valves initial announcements) Is that A) People can build their own Steam Machines, and B) There figure to be many Steam Machines that you can purchase directly from Valve, with various specs that can fall within someone's price line better. So, what the beta testers are getting are probably the more expensive version of the Steam Machine.
But, man, if the beta testers get to keep them, they are going to be extremely lucky (also, if any of that last sentence s either badly misspelled or has some serious gramatical issues, its because I'm typing this blind because of a fucking pop-up add is currently blocking this portion of the reply box, and everytime I hit the close button, another popup shows up. I mean, sure I could just quickly edit it after I submit, but I shouldn't have to do that. I also don't care if pointing out broken ads is against escapists Forum Rules, because this is ridiculous.)
"To be clear, this design is not meant to serve the needs of all of the tens of millions of Steam users. It may, however, be the kind of machine that a significant percentage of Steam users would actually want to purchase - those who want plenty of performance in a high-end living room package," the post says. "Many others would opt for machines that have been more carefully designed to cost less, or to be tiny, or super quiet, and there will be Steam Machines that fit those descriptions."
So, what we can learn from this (if we remember Valves initial announcements) Is that A) People can build their own Steam Machines, and B) There figure to be many Steam Machines that you can purchase directly from Valve, with various specs that can fall within someone's price line better. So, what the beta testers are getting are probably the more expensive version of the Steam Machine.
But, man, if the beta testers get to keep them, they are going to be extremely lucky (also, if any of that last sentence s either badly misspelled or has some serious gramatical issues, its because I'm typing this blind because of a fucking pop-up add is currently blocking this portion of the reply box, and everytime I hit the close button, another popup shows up. I mean, sure I could just quickly edit it after I submit, but I shouldn't have to do that. I also don't care if pointing out broken ads is against escapists Forum Rules, because this is ridiculous.)
Also fair.lacktheknack said:
You can certainly put me down as a fan of using sales to future proof for less, seeing as every part of my current PC was bought when it was on sale. Although I doubt these steam boxes are going to have any steep discounts. Also what is your friend doing to those poor power supplies? I have been PC gaming for years and I never had a power supply die, even when it was cheapo crap.
That doesn't seem like a market that is willing to spend $2000 on a gaming machine. And again, Pre-built PCs already exist, what makes the steam box special? And I'm not even to go into how silly it is to not build your if you want to game on PC.
Well I just got done cleaning up cat shit so I'm im angry sooooo... It's just Linux It's just Linux It's just Linux It's just Linux ect.
Unless you are someone like me who literally does not understand the point of Linux and has never heard anyone justify it with reasons other than "M$ rapes fish! Death to Windows! Death to Bill Gate$!" or "but.. but... open source" neither of which actually make a good case.
Well you better be putting together some prices, because those titans are a grand all by their lonesome and people will not be lured in by such pricing.
Also a curious lack of AMD options, don't want to point fingers too soon but this could lead to some awful porting practices down the line.
Also a curious lack of AMD options, don't want to point fingers too soon but this could lead to some awful porting practices down the line.
How about "Windows 8, with its constant transition to touchscreen interfaces, an app store and subscribed software stacked on bloatware, makes me a sad panda"?major_chaos said:Also what is your friend doing to those poor power supplies? I have been PC gaming for years and I never had a power supply die, even when it was cheapo crap.
Presumably, he sacrifices a virgin power supply as required to update his ATI card.
That doesn't seem like a market that is willing to spend $2000 on a gaming machine. And again, Pre-built PCs already exist, what makes the steam box special? And I'm not even to go into how silly it is to not build your if you want to game on PC.
I know it's silly. Around the time I met someone who said "I want to play games on the computer, but I don't want to update my drivers constantly", I knew it was a losing battle.
Also, only a very select few Steam Machines cost that much. Many will be down in the low-mid-hundreds, be as small as possible, specialize in quietness, etc. Re-read the OP. It's all about buying what you want if you are stubborn and refuse to build.
Well I just got done cleaning up cat shit so I'm im angry sooooo... It's just Linux It's just Linux It's just Linux It's just Linux ect.
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Unless you are someone like me who literally does not understand the point of Linux and has never heard anyone justify it with reasons other than "M$ rapes fish! Death to Windows! Death to Bill Gate$!" or "but.. but... open source" neither of which actually make a good case.
It's not a question of what Linux has, it's a question of what Linux DOESN'T have.
But if you want features, its programmer-friendly interface, excessive customizability and established modder-base means that we're tapping into a veritable goldmine of free software, free major modifications and the like.
Plus, if Linux develops a sizeable userbase (say, if a large gaming company up and moved the majority of its business over there, or something like that), companies will decide it's worth it to port their software to Linux, which makes the "But nothing's compatible" complaint self-fixing.
I suffer framerate issues recording on 6GB on more recent games.Charcharo said:
Add in my graphics-whore qualities (ultra everything or die) and my annoyance at games running under 50FPS, and I apparently need better specs than you run. It gets worse when I mod things.
As I said in another post, I bought a 1000W power supply three years ago, I'm going to keep it for another five at least. That was a good investment. My friend keeps chewing through his cheap ones, and he's going to spend more than me in the long run.