Valve Outgrows Its "Episodes Phase"
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I think Valve failed to take one thing into account, their episodes idea spawned two episodes over a period of several years, when it was intended to release new content every 6 months. Their episode idea failed spectacularly.Andy Chalk said:
Dont give me a fuck-ton of useless hats and tell me its an update...
...you know, im half tempted to post a picture making fun a Newell with this...
I'm sure the fans are ecstatic about this change. Now instead of waiting 4+ years for a quarter of a game, they can wait 1 year for one hour of gameplay. Progress!
My thoughts exactly; perhaps this is actually Valve saying "Yeah, we can't be arsed with Half Life any more so... Yeah, don't expect to see it." As for the stroking white cat, I'd have more thought that from Steve Ballmer or Howard Stringer; actually wait, maybe Newell has been the evil genius all along, playing both sides till the Steam console is ready to take over...Pilkingtube said:
Ha ha! Gabe Newell is fat indeed... well played, HankMan, well played...HankMan said:
See, what bugs me about this release is that they failed at the Episode model and abandoned it after pumping out two short expansion packs. How long's it going to be before Valve abandons this model?
And that's why I see it getting abandoned.Fronzel said:
Does this finally confirm Half Life 3? Will people now stop talking about this Episode 3 now? I doubt it.
I wish they would have done that with L4D instead of making L4D2. I know they are pretty much the same, but L4D2 is pretty shitty, while L4D was amazing.
Plus this sounds like it would mostly be for PC. I know they said TF2 doesn't get the updates on 360 because Microsoft was requiring them to charge after a certain amount of free stuff...
Plus this sounds like it would mostly be for PC. I know they said TF2 doesn't get the updates on 360 because Microsoft was requiring them to charge after a certain amount of free stuff...
Shorter developement cycles you say?
Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. I'll believe it when I see it.
Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. I'll believe it when I see it.
So, no more episodic type games. I see this as a good thing, seeing as they really seem to suck at them anyways.
Oh Episode 3, will I ever get to play you?
Oh Episode 3, will I ever get to play you?
be nice if he wasn't so damn vague and addressed the 800lb guerrilla in the room. IS EPISODE 3 COMING OUT OR NOT?!
They should have realised this a lot quicker. Valve has a way to state the obvious as some new convention. Still good news. Hopefully they'll give up on episodic gaming, they really suck at it! I assume this means they'll skip ep3 and go directly to Half life 3.
And Valve, we want constant Portal 2 updates!!!
And Valve, we want constant Portal 2 updates!!!
It would be nice if Gabe Newell would stop lying/dodging the question and just admit that Episode 3 isn't going to happen.
It's not that, I just kept telling my friends it would be Half Life 3 rather than Ep3CopperBoom said:
So Valve will no longer be doing what it absolutely fails at. News value: 0.
One "Episode" every few years is not episodic gaming. Only one company does it right: Telltale. And then there's the serial "sequels" like the Madden content-updates... err "games", but those aren't episodic either.
Just make Half-Life 3, mmkay?
One "Episode" every few years is not episodic gaming. Only one company does it right: Telltale. And then there's the serial "sequels" like the Madden content-updates... err "games", but those aren't episodic either.
Just make Half-Life 3, mmkay?
(Insert obligatory Half-Life (2 Episode) 3 request here, followed by "pretty please")Andy Chalk said:
I think Valve does this on purpose now. They enjoy watching us fans scramble over every announcement, hoping it will be THE one.
Was that a fat joke, or did it has some deeper meaning?HankMan said:
Hey. Long as it is not content that I hate pay to get access I am all for it.
I really can't see how you can release extra stuff later for something like Half Life, with L4D and TF2 it's a pretty simple matter, because of the way they're set up.
TF2 can have stuff added because it's dynamic, and there's not much story, for example, if your team wins in one map, it doesn't change how you're going to be doing in the next map. L4D can have extra stuff chucked in because it's episodic, and there's stuff happening between episodes you can explore with DLC.
But, with Half Life, the idea is a single experience that can be played from start to finish without being chucked back to a menu screen. If you cut it down into several episodes like L4D, then you're basically back to episodic releasing! That's the only real way to add new content that isn't just bug fixes. It's a loose-loose situation! D=
TF2 can have stuff added because it's dynamic, and there's not much story, for example, if your team wins in one map, it doesn't change how you're going to be doing in the next map. L4D can have extra stuff chucked in because it's episodic, and there's stuff happening between episodes you can explore with DLC.
But, with Half Life, the idea is a single experience that can be played from start to finish without being chucked back to a menu screen. If you cut it down into several episodes like L4D, then you're basically back to episodic releasing! That's the only real way to add new content that isn't just bug fixes. It's a loose-loose situation! D=