Valve did not make Vindictus. The only reason that Valve's name is on it is because Nexon, the people who did make it, used the source engine which was developed by Valve. A quick glance over the Wikipedia page would have told you this and saved you a lot of frustration and embarrassment.Nehari said:...and NOW I find out that the've come out with a game called Vindictus which is an MMO, STOP MAKING OTHER GAMES!!!!!! HALF LIFE 3!!!! MAKE HALF LIFE 3!!!
Left 4 Dead did not start off as Valve screwing around. It was started by a company called Turtle Rock Studios which Valve bought while they were in development of Left 4 Dead.oplinger said:They didn't develop Blue Shift, or Opposing Forces. Those are the titles that made Gearbox famous. Irrelevant or not >>
Also L4D started off as them screwing around, and they realized friends and family -really- liked it. So they made it a game, and lots of people liked it...so they cashed in..Same with portal.
they get distracted just like anyone else. I think they want to go out with a bang however, and the current engine and such is not to their liking.
This. Also, just because you (that is, the OP) don't want anyone to point it out, Opposing Force and Blue Shift were made by Gearbox Software.kebab4you said:Valve had nothing to do with Blue shift and Opposing forces so I kinda stopped reading when you said that since clearly you don't have your facts straight.
True, episodic gaming is supposed to work that way, but Valve Time negates that unfortunately. I'd much rather have a heavily playtested, debugged 6 hour Episode 3 that took 3 years to make then a buggy, poorly done Episode 3 that took a year. Plus, I'm assuming that Episode 3 is probably going to go the 'Orange Box' route, with other games and extras included.KSarty said:The problem with this mentality is that this is exactly what episodic gaming was meant to be. Quick releases of small expansions.Blind Sight said:Stop feeling so self-entitled, I'm really sick of gamers whining about stuff like this, Valve is a business, first and foremost, not your personal entertainment slaves. Yes, yes, it's been a long time since Episode 2, and I do really want to play Episode 3/Half-life 3, but Valve owes us nothing, they're a great company that actually respect their consumer base.
Would you prefer if Valve took the 'Call of Duty' root and just mass produced games each year without the rigorous playtesting they're known for?
If they are working on Half-Life 3 than 3 years is perfectly reasonable. If they are working on Episode 3, than 3 years is pathetic.
Did you stop to think they are expanding on portal to set up for half life 3? I for one want to see HL3 or episode three, but, I'm going to be patient, because, I want to see a game that is true to the series and is fun to play. I may not speak for everyone, but, I'm positive that there are a lot of people here who are just as impatient as you are.Nehari said:STOP MAKING OTHER GAMES!!!!!! HALF LIFE 3!!!! MAKE HALF LIFE 3!!!
ouch, I'm not saying that I'm personally entitled to them slaving themselves for me I'm just saying that they've been holding onto the Half Life 3/episode 3 idea for sooooo long now that the fact they always seem to be working on something different seems frustrating, I just don't want to see half life get swept under the carpetBlind Sight said:Stop feeling so self-entitled, I'm really sick of gamers whining about stuff like this, Valve is a business, first and foremost, not your personal entertainment slaves. Yes, yes, it's been a long time since Episode 2, and I do really want to play Episode 3/Half-life 3, but Valve owes us nothing, they're a great company that actually respect their consumer base.
Would you prefer if Valve took the 'Call of Duty' root and just mass produced games each year without the rigorous playtesting they're known for?
I'd be lying if I said that picture didn't make me giggle.Ranorak said:I'm just going to leave these Goblin Sappers to blow up this wall'o'text
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But even that only goes so far. There are other game companies that successfully make expansions or even sequels in 1-2 years time that are well thought out and well executed. Being quick does not necessarily mean being sloppy. Especially considering that the same engine is used for episodic gaming. There should be a relatively low number of bugs to begin with when you are using your own 6 year old engine.Blind Sight said:True, episodic gaming is supposed to work that way, but Valve Time negates that unfortunately. I'd much rather have a heavily playtested, debugged 6 hour Episode 3 that took 3 years to make then a buggy, poorly done Episode 3 that took a year. Plus, I'm assuming that Episode 3 is probably going to go the 'Orange Box' route, with other games and extras included.KSarty said:The problem with this mentality is that this is exactly what episodic gaming was meant to be. Quick releases of small expansions.Blind Sight said:Stop feeling so self-entitled, I'm really sick of gamers whining about stuff like this, Valve is a business, first and foremost, not your personal entertainment slaves. Yes, yes, it's been a long time since Episode 2, and I do really want to play Episode 3/Half-life 3, but Valve owes us nothing, they're a great company that actually respect their consumer base.
Would you prefer if Valve took the 'Call of Duty' root and just mass produced games each year without the rigorous playtesting they're known for?
If they are working on Half-Life 3 than 3 years is perfectly reasonable. If they are working on Episode 3, than 3 years is pathetic.
Exactly this. Are you aware of something called "The Internet"? The place where thousands of people have already whinged about what you're whinging about? Except I think they were a little more coherent about it. If everyone else can wait, you can.Woodsey said:I love how you explain it like this is a fairly new concept.
lol, sounds kind of silly when you put it that way, I'm well aware that I look like a child screaming and whining on the floor because I want more candy but I want more candyHarrowdown said:Wow, how dare valve make a bunch of great games and develop their other franchises. If I had my way, they'd spend all their time and money making one specific game that I want. WahWahWah. /sarcasm.
Oh, I disagree haha, me and a couple friends got a lot of people into Half-life by gifting our extra Orange Box copies over Steam, it's almost like some kind of viral marketing.Khushal said:I really hope they aren't going to include all previous half life installments again...
Well my post was harsh because your OP was harsh haha, I'm just really sick of people whining about Half-life release dates, most people are too young to remember that it took SIX YEARS for Valve to make Half-life 2 after the first one. Working on different projects is probably a good thing, just working on sequels to the same game leads to a stagnation of quality. Valve's had a lot of time to experiment with stuff like A.I. directors, I guarantee you'll see a lot of interesting ideas implimented in Episode 3/Half-life 3 when it's released in 2073.Nehari said:ouch, I'm not saying that I'm personally entitled to them slaving themselves for me I'm just saying that they've been holding onto the Half Life 3/episode 3 idea for sooooo long now that the fact they always seem to be working on something different seems frustrating, I just don't want to see half life get swept under the carpet
yeah kidna does look like a mess doesn't itGildan Bladeborn said:Paragraph breaks - the OP desperately needs them. As it is now there is simply no way I am going to grit my way through that mess of a post.
Half Life 2 was released in 2004, it's 2010 now so they've passed that 6 year point.Blind Sight said:Well my post was harsh because your OP was harsh haha, I'm just really sick of people whining about Half-life release dates, most people are too young to remember that it took SIX YEARS for Valve to make Half-life 2 after the first one. Working on different projects is probably a good thing, just working on sequels to the same game leads to a stagnation of quality. Valve's had a lot of time to experiment with stuff like A.I. directors, I guarantee you'll see a lot of interesting ideas implimented in Episode 3/Half-life 3 when it's released in 2073.Nehari said:ouch, I'm not saying that I'm personally entitled to them slaving themselves for me I'm just saying that they've been holding onto the Half Life 3/episode 3 idea for sooooo long now that the fact they always seem to be working on something different seems frustrating, I just don't want to see half life get swept under the carpet