Valve: Team Fortress 2 Is Great for Testing New Ideas

Jack Mcslay

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Pielikey said:
Jack Mcslay said:
Pielikey said:
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Onyx Oblivion said:
I'd love to see a racing game by Valve
A Valve racing game would be dope.
Jesus christ, have you tried the source engine's vehicle physics in Garry's Mod? Those things are a fucking catastrophe. A Racing game by valve would be horrible unless they tried something other than the source engine or improved the source engine's vehicle physics.
and how does making vehicles out of crates and pillars translate into evaluating an engine's vehicle physics potential?

There really is no such thing as a "racing engine" or "FPS engine" anymore. With the intervention of physics, there's little you'd have to adjust on an FPS engine in order to create a racing game since how the object act aren't quite genre-specific anymore. Implement proper analog/steering wheel support, and maybe crash-able models and vacuums and it's set.

Then, if we're talking RPGs, RTSes, 3rd-Person shooters, I don't think it needs to add anything to the engine. Heck, I'll even make a wild guess and say it's within possibility to create a God of War-like game in unmodified source, though it would lack many of the gore possibilities in GOW.
I don't mean player made vehicles, I mean the Jeep from HL2 and the car from Episode 2 which you can use in garry's mod.
again, that's not a good example either. It was quickly patched up so you could have vehilces in HL, it doesn't reflect what could actually be done if they were to optimize physics for a real vehicle-oriented game.
 

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The_root_of_all_evil said:
oh god...

[HEADING=1]Quick everyone. Batten down defences before the Xboxers get here!![/HEADING]
Gentlemen, tell me did any of you kill Bil Gates on your way in? No? Then we still have a problem.

They should totally make those last 2 meet the team videos, and unmask the pyro.
 

mjc0961

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Team Fortress 2 is also a great way to test your excuses about how Xbox Live makes updating games teh hardz. =( It must also be a way to test how many people will forget about the Left 4 Dead franchise and how much support that got on consoles, so it can't be that hard though. So basically TF2 is great for testing how much bullshit Gabe Newell can shovel at us.

Also it seems good to test how much time they can spend releasing hats while people wait for Half-Life 2 Episode 3. I mean for crying out loud, god damn Duke Nukem Forever is going to come out next year. That leaves you on the bubble for the next big game development joke, Valve. Is that what you want?

Yeah, here's an idea you can test Valve, get Gabe Newell to shut the hell up about big surprises and how "Xbawks is hard" and have him do some fucking work for once.
 

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Jack Mcslay said:
mjc0961 said:
Team Fortress 2 is also a great way to test your excuses about how Xbox Live makes updating games teh hardz. =( It must also be a way to test how many people will forget about the Left 4 Dead franchise and how much support that got on consoles, so it can't be that hard though. So basically TF2 is great for testing how much bullshit Gabe Newell can shovel at us.

Also it seems good to test how much time they can spend releasing hats while people wait for Half-Life 2 Episode 3. I mean for crying out loud, god damn Duke Nukem Forever is going to come out next year. That leaves you on the bubble for the next big game development joke, Valve. Is that what you want?
The_root_of_all_evil said:
oh god...

[HEADING=1]Quick everyone. Batten down defences before the Xboxers get here!![/HEADING]
Good for you. You can quote all the big red text you want but it doesn't change that Gabe Newell is full of it. I don't even own Team Fortress 2 on Xbox and don't care if it gets updated or not. He just set off my bullshit detector with his statements and I'm not going to sit there and not call it out because his company makes awesome games.
 

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Clearly Vale is learning how to best placate us when they eventually take over the world. The answer involves silly hats.

I like how Valve is using TF2 as a continuous process towards perfection but some ideas were clearly better then others. The Sandman for instance took quiet a bit of work since it started out as a bad idea and it is still a thorn in many sides.
 

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vallorn said:
The_root_of_all_evil said:
vallorn said:
*backstab**backstab**backstab**backstab**backstab**backstab**backstab**backstab**backstab*

no pyro can save you now!
*BOOM*
Thanks for standing still, wanker!
CURSED SNIPER!! I WILL HAVE MY VENGANCE!!!

[small]backstab![/small]
What did you say about pyro's!?!

*Ignites back burner*
 

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fanklok said:
The_root_of_all_evil said:
oh god...

[HEADING=1]Quick everyone. Batten down defences before the Xboxers get here!![/HEADING]
Gentlemen, tell me did any of you kill Bil Gates on your way in? No? Then we still have a problem.

They should totally make those last 2 meet the team videos, and unmask the pyro.
Wish granted: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ww-jfygVEE0
 

vallorn

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Kalezian said:
Citrus Insanity said:
You know what would be a good new idea to explore, Valve? Another Meet the Team video.
the pyro one is part of Episode III, you see it play over a small TV around chapter 2 when you lose your gravity gun.


OT: I cant help but wonder, in a very loud voice in my mind: "AND?"


TF2 is mindless fun, thus it would be easy to add things to it.

hell, Im surprised there isnt furry servers...

[small] I can totally imagine the medic as a scrawny German Shepard, or the Heavy as a Polar Bear/Siberian Huskey[/small]
holy ****! that would be awesome!
also the pyro would totaly be a rabbit.
 

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AwesomeFerret said:
vallorn said:
The_root_of_all_evil said:
vallorn said:
*backstab**backstab**backstab**backstab**backstab**backstab**backstab**backstab**backstab*

no pyro can save you now!
*BOOM*
Thanks for standing still, wanker!
CURSED SNIPER!! I WILL HAVE MY VENGANCE!!!

[small]backstab![/small]
What did you say about pyro's!?!

*Ignites back burner*
*jumpstab with dead ringer* i win.
 

vallorn

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Ardenon said:
fanklok said:
The_root_of_all_evil said:
oh god...

[HEADING=1]Quick everyone. Batten down defences before the Xboxers get here!![/HEADING]
Gentlemen, tell me did any of you kill Bil Gates on your way in? No? Then we still have a problem.

They should totally make those last 2 meet the team videos, and unmask the pyro.
Wish granted: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ww-jfygVEE0
my god... the awesome...
 

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The_root_of_all_evil said:
oh god...

[HEADING=1]Quick everyone. Batten down defences before the Xboxers get here!![/HEADING]
*Dons Fez*

We are ready!

OT: I think a bunch of developers could learn a lot from Valve! MW2 with hats would make it MUCH better!
 

vallorn

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TimeLord said:
The_root_of_all_evil said:
oh god...

[HEADING=1]Quick everyone. Batten down defences before the Xboxers get here!![/HEADING]
*Dons Fez*

We are ready!

OT: I think a bunch of developers could learn a lot from Valve! MW2 with hats would make it MUCH better!
Just Cause 2 WITH HATS!!!! uncharted 2 WITH HATS!!!! Killzone 3 WITH HATS!!!! Gears of War WITH HATS!!!! Halo Reach WITH HATS!!!! and best of all Grand Turismo 5 WITH HATS!!!!
lol hats.

also your a little late timelord we've been holding em off all night!
 

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I think what Valve can really congratulate themselves on is the anti-piracy thing they've got going on. They've got a lot of things going for them.

I like TF2. I like the whole crazy cartoon thing they've got going and I like those hat things (even with my abysmal collection - but in my defense, I don't play a lot of hours on it).
If I had one niggling thing though; is probably not to announce/predict a sequel for a game that they will put off because of more prospering (or fun, to the devs, at least) projects. That way, we won't have to hear HL2 episode 3 ever again.

To be completely honest, I'm really looking forward to what they'll put out next. As people have mentioned, a new genre might be interesting. Or, since Valve likes meddling in the sandbox that is TF2, other game modes. A MMO mode? A puzzle mode? ENDLESS!
 

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vallorn said:
AwesomeFerret said:
vallorn said:
The_root_of_all_evil said:
vallorn said:
*backstab**backstab**backstab**backstab**backstab**backstab**backstab**backstab**backstab*

no pyro can save you now!
*BOOM*
Thanks for standing still, wanker!
CURSED SNIPER!! I WILL HAVE MY VENGANCE!!!

[small]backstab![/small]
What did you say about pyro's!?!

*Ignites back burner*
*jumpstab with dead ringer* i win.
MMMMMMMM! *Runs for heavy team mate*
 

Fuhjem

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oh, crap. Valve is becoming self aware. We have to terminate before it craves HUMAN FLESH!