Valve working on 'Steam Box' console

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WanderingFool

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Gorilla Gunk said:
If they really want this to work it would have to be cheap, like around $300. If this thing is like $500-600 at launch, nobody is going to buy it.

Anyway, as a console gamer I love the idea, but I lost faith in Valve years ago.
Well, I never claimed to love or really care about Valve, but Ill admit, im interested upon hearing this.
 

Darren716

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I love this idea since I love all of the games that are offered at cheeper prices on steam but I don't have a very powerful PC so this would be perfect for me.
 

Vault101

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CaptainOctopus said:
TrilbyWill said:
*bangs head on keyboard*
No. No. No. No. No.
1. I think consoles are going to die out eventually. Probably soon.
2. Valve's main market are PC gamers, who have gaming PCs
3. We don't need more bloody consoles
1. Indeed.
2. Exactly.
3. Damn straight.

Vault101 said:
why would consoles being dying out anytime soon?

anyway My only problem with this is its threat to physical copies
Why consoles will be dying "soon":
http://penny-arcade.com/patv/episode/consoles-are-the-new-coin-op

Physical copies easily break, they take up space, make games more expensive, developers get less of the profit and don't get as much control of their product, makes it a lot harder to adjust price, can never perfectly meet consumer demand, they require physical stores, have made it harder for indie developers to enter the market, they are bad for the environment ect, etc, etc. Physical copies just as consoles will aslo be a thing of the past, for better or worse, mostly for the better though, deal with it.
not untill internet in general gets good enough, because no fucking way am I waiting days to download that "must-have title" (and my internet isnt even bad)

also as long as I dont have ot be connected to play...
 

Robert Ewing

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Hmmm... Sort of want. But I'm not sure yet. Maybe if it reveals some juicy specs and a low price tag, i'll go for it.
 

vrbtny

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I know exactly how Valve are going to market this.

They are going to release Half-Life 2 : Episode 3/ Half-Life 3 as a Exclusive for it.....then f*cking millions will buy the damn thing.
 

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vrbtny said:
I know exactly how Valve are going to market this.

They are going to release Half-Life 2 : Episode 3/ Half-Life 3 as a Exclusive for it.....then f*cking millions will buy the damn thing.
That would be awesome! Purely for the internet outrage and valve fanboys defending it that would erupt.
 

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crappingpegasus said:
I'm not really sure an "open-source" platform on "closed" hardware is the answer. Isn't that why most PC Gamers prefer the PC - upgradability? If Steam Box is going to run on variations of the Razer Blade or Alienware X51 then what's the real incentive for PC Gamers? Or console gamers for that matter? Certainly not hardware power. Certainly not exclusives.

Frankly, this just sounds like the Phantom Console 2.0: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phantom_Entertainment
Never has the name of a console been so fitting. Outside of the 3DS.
 

Waaghpowa

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Ultratwinkie said:
Oh look my old article. I really should rewrite that as a 2.0 version though. I would if metacritic didn't stop updating its database in 2010. Without its database, I cant update the amount of games. Oh well, It can still serve a purpose to show how modern console gaming is getting slower compared to the last gen.
Luckily your article still stands strong on it's own. Which is precisely why I've bookmarked it and use it as a reference for such occasions. Thank you for your hard work.
 

StriderShinryu

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This could be rather hilarious.. who would come out on top in the war between the PC Master
Race and the Valve Fanboy Army given that there is so much crossover between the two?
 

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Azure-Supernova said:
I see what they'd be aiming at, but I think they've got it wrong. What I think would be a better idea is a minimalistic OS that lets PC gamers dedicate more of their resources to the games themselves. An OS with that is functions as Steam does: catalogue, library and basic browsing.
I second this. Gamers already have good gaming rigs. What would be nice is a dedicated gamer OS.
 

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If I were them I would be building a console that built for Steam gaming with a ton of cross-platform support, PC interconnectivity, with a splash of streaming video.

I can imagine having a LAN party 6v6 on TF2, and the console could spectate and display a scoreboard on your TV. Also, you could be playing Portal 2 with yourself on your computer and your friend on the console, with your screen displayed picture-in-picture on the TV in the same room. Both of these situations would make me want both PC and console at the same time.

Creating just another console would be predatory to their current business. Unless they are planning on dumping their incredibly lucrative PC business, they should consider making a device that makes people want to buy more games on PC, rather than switching over to a console.
 

The Hungry Samurai

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I don't get console gamer hate. Who here can play Skyrim with a $400 pc that they bought in November of 2005? If Valve can give me a device that gives me the affordable longevity of a console, with the library that Steam provides, then you can count me in as a launch day buyer.
 

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The Hungry Samurai said:
I don't get console gamer hate. Who here can play Skyrim with a $400 pc that they bought in November of 2005?
agreed, this is very often over looked. its quite amazing just how much developers get out of the current gen consoles despite their age.
 

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LiquidSolstice said:
Souplex said:
While I question the validity of this source, (Has anyone heard of "The Verge" before now?) it's good to see Valve sees the writing on the wall about PC gaming.

...Seriously? The Verge is quite possibly the single most prolific tech news site on the internet. It contains pretty much the entire original staff of Engadget.
well as prolific as a site that's only been around for 6 months can be...

EDIT: whoops, should have been one post. sorry.
 

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I think the only way for this to stand out in a market where the only real hardware difference between consoles and PCs is the ability to upgrade is for Valve to do something totally unique that hasn't been done before. Given their history with innovation, I'd say they've got a better shot at that than most.
 

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Who would this console be for? Console gamers wouldn't bother dishing out another 600 bucks for something that's just going to release the same things that they can buy for the consoles they own, and PC gamers already have Steam (and the very prospect of purchasing a filthy worthless console would be an insult to their divine PC gaming supremacy), and likewise wouldn't want to dish out 600 bucks either. It would have to offer something completely new and interesting in order to sell.
Don't get me wrong, I love Steam. I just don't see how one could base a console around it. Integrating Steam to the Xbox 360 and PS3, on the other hand...
 

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Hmm. Should I be happy because it's Steam, or should I be apprehensive because it's a console?

I suppose I'm cautiously optimistic.



Ha-ha. Any excuse to post that.
 

crazypsyko666

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I hope it's just cloud computation instead of legitimate computer hardware. That could work, putting steam on a TV with a nice controller and everything for $100, not a full set of hardware with steam on it.
 

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I'm surprised the idea is so controversial. It wouldn't be a "console" in the MS / Sony sense, it would be a standardized PC. By locking down the hardware and software, Valve could make the platform more reliable and hassle-free than normal PC gaming.

Valve is not perfect, I don't even care for the games they develop, but I do like a lot of things about Steam. I believe Valve would deliver better service than MS and Sony for two reasons:

1) Valve is a privately-held company, and not having impatient shareholders helps with doing things right instead of rushing out short-term cash grabs. In general, the expansion phase before selling public shares is usually when tech companies are at their best.

2) Not very many entertainment companies are winning the battle against piracy. Steam is one of the few places to buy games that makes it easier than pirating them would be. Comparing Steam to other successful download services like iTunes, I would say that Steam is a much better service.