Velocity

[AbstractStream]

Oooh, this is intense drama right here.
What happens next?!

 

[thepyrethatburns]

Dude...that was a dick move. I'm...like not even able to express my hate towards characters I previously liked. Mol and Mr.Geeky there need to go take a drive asap so they can run into another poll.

Seriously he is pretty much responsible for her brain damage, he doesn't know what its like to try and deal with the meds, and he doesn't care because hes hooking up with her roomate anyway. Why should he take any responsibility. Grrr >.>

And sneaking into somebody elses house in the middle of the night for no sane reason, seemingly stealing there property and then reacting with a violent outburst for what honestly sounded like a good point (why doesn't she take her meds?) is the proper way to act? Accident or not she has very little ground to stand on considering the all clear she got from the hospitable, the fact that she's not taking steps to fix her problem and cant seem to explain just why she attempted to inflict pretty severe harm on a friend- no ***** deserved to get bounced

Except you've probably never been on those meds. Sometimes they put you into a semi veg state, sometimes your filled with extreme bursts of emotion, sometimes you are suicidal and try and harm yourself. It takes years to properly dose and tweak meds so they work and arn't worse then the problem they are fixing.

It is hard to stay on your meds, growing up I loved to draw and write. After going on my meds I would just sleep all day, a couple of times I tried throwing myself down the stairs, I only ever had the inspiration and motivation to draw when I wasn't on meds. So I kept not taking my meds when I could get away with it.

Big difference between "I'm sleepy" and "I think I'll try to smash someone's skull with a 360."

This has turned into one of those situations that, if I heard about it on the news, my reaction would be "And you haven't called 911 why?" Frankly, in the same situation, there's a good chance that I would have restrained her and called the police.

And, as for being responsible:
1) She refuses to wear a seat belt.
2) She refuses to take her meds.
3) She just attempted to inflict the same sort of head trauma on Mol.

So where is Erin's responsibility?

 

[zombie711]

Wait he's an Intern. Dude's Job is screwed.

 

[Sandytimeman]

Dude...that was a dick move. I'm...like not even able to express my hate towards characters I previously liked. Mol and Mr.Geeky there need to go take a drive asap so they can run into another poll.

Seriously he is pretty much responsible for her brain damage, he doesn't know what its like to try and deal with the meds, and he doesn't care because hes hooking up with her roomate anyway. Why should he take any responsibility. Grrr >.>

And sneaking into somebody elses house in the middle of the night for no sane reason, seemingly stealing there property and then reacting with a violent outburst for what honestly sounded like a good point (why doesn't she take her meds?) is the proper way to act? Accident or not she has very little ground to stand on considering the all clear she got from the hospitable, the fact that she's not taking steps to fix her problem and cant seem to explain just why she attempted to inflict pretty severe harm on a friend- no ***** deserved to get bounced

Except you've probably never been on those meds. Sometimes they put you into a semi veg state, sometimes your filled with extreme bursts of emotion, sometimes you are suicidal and try and harm yourself. It takes years to properly dose and tweak meds so they work and arn't worse then the problem they are fixing.

It is hard to stay on your meds, growing up I loved to draw and write. After going on my meds I would just sleep all day, a couple of times I tried throwing myself down the stairs, I only ever had the inspiration and motivation to draw when I wasn't on meds. So I kept not taking my meds when I could get away with it.

Big difference between "I'm sleepy" and "I think I'll try to smash someone's skull with a 360."

This has turned into one of those situations that, if I heard about it on the news, my reaction would be "And you haven't called 911 why?" Frankly, in the same situation, there's a good chance that I would have restrained her and called the police.

And, as for being responsible:
1) She refuses to wear a seat belt.
2) She refuses to take her meds.
3) She just attempted to inflict the same sort of head trauma on Mol.

So where is Erin's responsibility?

You just ignored the "extreme bursts of emotion" part of my post so you could strawman me.

Also I never claimed she was responsible but I don't think Mol or Elliot are being responsible either.

 

[thepyrethatburns]

Dude...that was a dick move. I'm...like not even able to express my hate towards characters I previously liked. Mol and Mr.Geeky there need to go take a drive asap so they can run into another poll.

Seriously he is pretty much responsible for her brain damage, he doesn't know what its like to try and deal with the meds, and he doesn't care because hes hooking up with her roomate anyway. Why should he take any responsibility. Grrr >.>

And sneaking into somebody elses house in the middle of the night for no sane reason, seemingly stealing there property and then reacting with a violent outburst for what honestly sounded like a good point (why doesn't she take her meds?) is the proper way to act? Accident or not she has very little ground to stand on considering the all clear she got from the hospitable, the fact that she's not taking steps to fix her problem and cant seem to explain just why she attempted to inflict pretty severe harm on a friend- no ***** deserved to get bounced

Except you've probably never been on those meds. Sometimes they put you into a semi veg state, sometimes your filled with extreme bursts of emotion, sometimes you are suicidal and try and harm yourself. It takes years to properly dose and tweak meds so they work and arn't worse then the problem they are fixing.

It is hard to stay on your meds, growing up I loved to draw and write. After going on my meds I would just sleep all day, a couple of times I tried throwing myself down the stairs, I only ever had the inspiration and motivation to draw when I wasn't on meds. So I kept not taking my meds when I could get away with it.

Big difference between "I'm sleepy" and "I think I'll try to smash someone's skull with a 360."

This has turned into one of those situations that, if I heard about it on the news, my reaction would be "And you haven't called 911 why?" Frankly, in the same situation, there's a good chance that I would have restrained her and called the police.

And, as for being responsible:
1) She refuses to wear a seat belt.
2) She refuses to take her meds.
3) She just attempted to inflict the same sort of head trauma on Mol.

So where is Erin's responsibility?

You just ignored the "extreme bursts of emotion" part of my post so you could strawman me.

Also I never claimed she was responsible but I don't think Mol or Elliot are being responsible either.

No, I didn't but you also never claimed to be prone to violence against others.

Even if I did, you also seem bound and determined to defend her and her actions even though her current condition is largely a result of her actions and she has just jumped the line from "amusingly quirky" to "danger to people around her". Given that you seem to be largely ignoring a lot of the situation, I think I can be granted an omission or two.

 

[Mooly]

Dude...that was a dick move. I'm...like not even able to express my hate towards characters I previously liked. Mol and Mr.Geeky there need to go take a drive asap so they can run into another poll.

Seriously he is pretty much responsible for her brain damage, he doesn't know what its like to try and deal with the meds, and he doesn't care because hes hooking up with her roomate anyway. Why should he take any responsibility. Grrr >.>

And sneaking into somebody elses house in the middle of the night for no sane reason, seemingly stealing there property and then reacting with a violent outburst for what honestly sounded like a good point (why doesn't she take her meds?) is the proper way to act? Accident or not she has very little ground to stand on considering the all clear she got from the hospitable, the fact that she's not taking steps to fix her problem and cant seem to explain just why she attempted to inflict pretty severe harm on a friend- no ***** deserved to get bounced

Except you've probably never been on those meds. Sometimes they put you into a semi veg state, sometimes your filled with extreme bursts of emotion, sometimes you are suicidal and try and harm yourself. It takes years to properly dose and tweak meds so they work and arn't worse then the problem they are fixing.

It is hard to stay on your meds, growing up I loved to draw and write. After going on my meds I would just sleep all day, a couple of times I tried throwing myself down the stairs, I only ever had the inspiration and motivation to draw when I wasn't on meds. So I kept not taking my meds when I could get away with it.

Uuuuuh, I feel like you are reading too far into this and its tinged with personal experience. That said, I have friends on meds like this. I tolerate whatever emotional state they happen to be in, but attempting physical violence is crossing a line. She threw a fucking xbox at her friend, I think she deserved to be thrown out of doorway. And even if you dont grow out of mental problems, maybe she does need to grow up a little and learn keep her problems from affecting the people she loves. (and now im reading to far into this)

 

[Don Reba]

I'm like...really mad at elliot here. He seriously just told someone he knows has mental problems to grow up.

LIKE GROWING UP CURES MENTAL PROBLEMS!!!!

It often does. You grow up, you learn to cope with problems - all kinds of problems, including mental ones.

 

[Sandytimeman]

I'm like...really mad at elliot here. He seriously just told someone he knows has mental problems to grow up.

LIKE GROWING UP CURES MENTAL PROBLEMS!!!!

It often does. You grow up, you learn to cope with problems - all kinds of problems, including mental ones.

Weird how my dad still has schizophrenia then at nearly 50. Guess he is just not very grown up.

 

[RJ 17]

Ahhhh Kratos, your sagely wisdom and perspective is something that we all need in our life.

 

[Don Reba]

I'm like...really mad at elliot here. He seriously just told someone he knows has mental problems to grow up.

LIKE GROWING UP CURES MENTAL PROBLEMS!!!!

It often does. You grow up, you learn to cope with problems - all kinds of problems, including mental ones.

Weird how my dad still has schizophrenia then at nearly 50. Guess he is just not very grown up.

Unlike you, I did not make a general statement, like "all mental problems are cured by growing up". I said "often". Erin's problem, specifically, does not seem like the degenerative kind.

 

[geizr]

Dude...that was a dick move. I'm...like not even able to express my hate towards characters I previously liked. Mol and Mr.Geeky there need to go take a drive asap so they can run into another poll.

Seriously he is pretty much responsible for her brain damage, he doesn't know what its like to try and deal with the meds, and he doesn't care because hes hooking up with her roomate anyway. Why should he take any responsibility. Grrr >.>

And sneaking into somebody elses house in the middle of the night for no sane reason, seemingly stealing there property and then reacting with a violent outburst for what honestly sounded like a good point (why doesn't she take her meds?) is the proper way to act? Accident or not she has very little ground to stand on considering the all clear she got from the hospitable, the fact that she's not taking steps to fix her problem and cant seem to explain just why she attempted to inflict pretty severe harm on a friend- no ***** deserved to get bounced

Except you've probably never been on those meds. Sometimes they put you into a semi veg state, sometimes your filled with extreme bursts of emotion, sometimes you are suicidal and try and harm yourself. It takes years to properly dose and tweak meds so they work and arn't worse then the problem they are fixing.

It is hard to stay on your meds, growing up I loved to draw and write. After going on my meds I would just sleep all day, a couple of times I tried throwing myself down the stairs, I only ever had the inspiration and motivation to draw when I wasn't on meds. So I kept not taking my meds when I could get away with it.

Big difference between "I'm sleepy" and "I think I'll try to smash someone's skull with a 360."

This has turned into one of those situations that, if I heard about it on the news, my reaction would be "And you haven't called 911 why?" Frankly, in the same situation, there's a good chance that I would have restrained her and called the police.

And, as for being responsible:
1) She refuses to wear a seat belt.
2) She refuses to take her meds.
3) She just attempted to inflict the same sort of head trauma on Mol.

So where is Erin's responsibility?

You just ignored the "extreme bursts of emotion" part of my post so you could strawman me.

Also I never claimed she was responsible but I don't think Mol or Elliot are being responsible either.

No, I didn't but you also never claimed to be prone to violence against others.

Even if I did, you also seem bound and determined to defend her and her actions even though her current condition is largely a result of her actions and she has just jumped the line from "amusingly quirky" to "danger to people around her". Given that you seem to be largely ignoring a lot of the situation, I think I can be granted an omission or two.

I could see Sandytimeman's argument that Mol and Elliot are not being responsible. If they were, they would have called 911 to have Erin locked away, potentially permanently, because she has now become a danger, not only to herself but to others as well (speaking as someone, who during childhood, had to often deal with a close relative having violent nervous break-downs and schizophrenic episodes that required just such a response on my part).

 

[Mooly]

... This is the same guy responsible for Erin's head trauma right? Man, I know you should always side with your GF... but god damn that guy just came across as a prick!

Also, anti-psychotics, if you have a problem but that problem doesn't cause you to want to cause harm to your self and others I don't think you should have to take them... they make you feel like you're not you.

...NOT that I have personal experience or anything... ((Fuck, now everyone thinks I'm a loon)) I did 2 years of Nursing and have a strong medical predisposition in my family.

"Hey mum, I don't want to be a nurse OK, I want to kill people" - Not what I said, but what she heard

I feel like he was justified. Once you start throwing stuff at your friends hard enough to crack walls you've forfeited your right to excuses, and when you cant control yourself you dont deserve to be treated like an adult

 

[awesomeClaw]

I feel sympathy for both points in the debate.

On one hand: Clutch IS ultimately responsible for Erins accident and her suqsequent decline into insanity(you could argue she should have worn her seat belt, but it´s still his fault.) Plus, she did say she was sorry, and Molly really had to try before she snapped.

But on the other hand, Erin was the one who broke in and started the conflict to begin with, and there really is no justifying trowing a goddamn xbox at someones head.

To be honest, I think both parties are in the wrong here. Clutch should have been much more sympathetic and helpful, considering he´s the one who caused her head injury. Erin shouldn´t have broken into Clutch´s house, and Molly should have thought a bit harder before provoking the woman with a mental disorder.

Analysing is fun!

Edit: In the off-beat chance that Grey and Carter are reading this, you´ve really outdone yourselves with this arc, nice work.

 

[Clive Howlitzer]

This comic is so depressing lately!

 

[Abedeus]

Is there anything cuter then Erin all scruffy from fistycuffs, kneeling in the mud with no trousers on?



The answers no.

Baby Krogan.

 

[PunkRex]

Is there anything cuter then Erin all scruffy from fistycuffs, kneeling in the mud with no trousers on?



The answers no.

Baby Krogan.

0_0 Im studying to become a Paleontologist... thats adorable! /)^3^(\

 

[Andrew_C]

Everybody's forgetting Erin had hallucinations before the crash, they just got worse. And she's an adultt, she chose not to wear a seatbelt, her injuries are her responsibility.

 

[Mrsoupcup]

Interesting drama that still manages to retain it's funny video game humor? Tim Buckley hang your sad little head in shame.

 

[WanderingFool]

I'm like...really mad at elliot here. He seriously just told someone he knows has mental problems to grow up.

LIKE GROWING UP CURES MENTAL PROBLEMS!!!!

The thing to consider is that:

A) She has medication she is suppose to be taking, which she should.

B) Her mental problems are largely her seeing videogame characters and talking to them. This could be considered less a mental problem, and more a of a way to childish imagination running amok.

C)... this is a web comic. Why the are we discussing supposed mental issues in it?

 

[Monoclebear]

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I'm not really sure what the point here is. 1 - Since we don't know anything about the meds speculation is meaningless. But even if the meds were effectively making her worse she shouldn't stop taking it without getting a "go" from her doctor. 2 - Supressed is still better than nothing. 3 - It wouldn't be pointless, it would be the right thing to do. If nothing else because the doctors could then see if something else stuck. Or just tell her to stop taking the meds. Anything is better than what essentially amounts to playing your own shrink. 4 - This is precisely the point. When your illness could be potentially dangerous to those around you (sure, it's been looking pretty benign in the comic so far, but Erin is a pretty severe friggin' schizophrenic) that kind of cynicism is a luxury you can't afford to grant yourself without being in the wrong. I'm not saying that it isn't understandable that she might stop taking the meds, but it isn't allright and I can't fault a person for being angry with her for it.

Just to point 1., we actually know that the meds don't work properly. That was explained in an earlier comic. The pills just mix the hallucinations she has, for example under the effect she sees stuff like Link as a spacemarine.