Kendritch said:
Xprimentyl said:
"Internal struggles" aside, the whole reason he appears "unique" is because he stands out as a Spider-Man villain, or as you put it, because he doesn't do all those cliched villain stuff when fighting Spider-Man. In other words, he's only unique because of Spider-Man. Take that factor away, and you're left with the "internal struggle", which I wouldn't exactly say is the most novel concept in movies anyway. You are left with some average guy who has to face his demons, not that "unique" character you were talking about that saves innocents while trying to kill Spider-Man.
You give Spider-Man too much credit (again, coming from the mouth of a huge Spider-Man fan.) I?d argue Venom?s unique unto his own because of his traits
in a vacuum: anger personified and laser focused, anger enough to twist the mind and feed on any traces of goodness within and the struggle to keep that goodness out of its maw all while look friggin? awesome. Having roots within the Spider-Man universe, let alone Spider-Man himself, is not what made him interesting; that?s incidental; Venom would be an amazing character opposite ANY hero, amazing enough that the idea of him doesn?t need to stand opposite anyone? hence his own film.
The internal struggle is exactly why this film can succeed without Spider-Man; it?s something that can be explored and dissected unto its own right, otherwise they really just should have made ?Spider-Man #26? and that?s not what I personally want. This is a film about Venom who, despite being siloed as a villain, is a bit more complex than most other ?bad guys with grandiose-if-vile plots? floating in the stagnant pool of superhero movie oversaturation. By removing the character of Venom from the Spider-Man universe(s), he can be fleshed out: take Average Joe, imbue him with immense power and noble purpose, but at the personal expense of his sanity, self-control and ultimately his humanity. None of that requires strict adherence to a Spidey canon that?s run its course threadbare over the past 15 years, in as many directions, and several Peter Parkers. Is it a
unique cinematic theme? No, absolutely not. But the ?idea? of Venom is still an interesting one, one that can be done well if predictably.
This may very well end up being just another hero flick, but despite the overabundance of them, they CAN be done well, and cliched cynicisms aside,
least it?s not another Iron Man, another Hulk, another X-men, another Spider-Man,
another another Spider-Man, another Superman, another Batman, etc.; at least it?s something DIFFERENT. Plus, I think something to consider is that despite the mind-numbing success of the low-hanging fruit properties like those I listed, I never would have guessed a standalone Venom was in the works; in picking someone so obscure, well,
non-obvious, it?s my biggest hope that they go out of their way to make it a worthy and entertaining outing and put him on people?s radars? but for every Deadpool, there?s an Elektra, so I?m cognizant of that. Anyway, judging by that trailer, for all its nit-picky imperfections, ?entertaining? looks to be exactly what they?re doing; when the symbiote crawls over his face to give me those teeth and that tongue, I got goosebumps. THAT?S my Venom and I can?t wait to meet him. Do this justice, Hollywood, and I won?t ask you for SHIT else. EVER.