Personally, I would support non-proactive vigilantism. For example: you see a thug pull a girl kicking and screaming into an alley, my natural response will be to get involved and quite likely cause some rather serious damage (since I don't exactly fight fair.) However going around and beating suspected muggers and rapists up is where I draw the line. The same goes for killing convicts who have served their time and have shown no evidence of any relapse.
Vigilantism
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I've been thinking about rolling around in nuclear waste to gain super powers for a while now. I'm concerned I might be corrupt with power though.
The problem with vigilantism is that everyone thinks that they and they alone are uniquely qualified to be the vigilante. Just because it works in countless Hollywood movies doesn't mean that it's not fraught with massive problems in real life. If everyone who wanted to be a vigilante got to be one, we'd be living in a very dangerous anarchy where you'd get shot for walking down the street because you met some grown-up-child's definition of "human sheep". Nihilism is actually really, really retarded.Jokermonster said:
If I see it happen, I'm liable to shove my boot up someone's ass. They can say what they want of me. Self-defense of another is far more noble a cause than actual self-defense.
This is 100 percent true...Pain Is Inevitable said:
If a would-be vigilante actually believed in the virtues they claim to, they'd become a police officer. Everything else is just self-serving. Even proper historical revolutionaries ultimately showed their true colours... Che Guevara for example...
I [i/]do[/i] take the law in my own hands.
Police here can't do shit right so I gotta do everything myself.
Police here can't do shit right so I gotta do everything myself.
Hmm...I agree with you to an extent.
People could just start killing whoever they Please and then justify it as vigilantism Later, and we would have Anarchy.
However, Perhaps we could have a middle ground.
People who have undeniably acted with reason and integrity could go to a Police center and get semi-deputations. While they are not Policemen, if they see something going wrong, they are authorized to do what they deem necessary to solve the Problems of their community.
People could just start killing whoever they Please and then justify it as vigilantism Later, and we would have Anarchy.
However, Perhaps we could have a middle ground.
People who have undeniably acted with reason and integrity could go to a Police center and get semi-deputations. While they are not Policemen, if they see something going wrong, they are authorized to do what they deem necessary to solve the Problems of their community.
When i see something wrong going down,I stop it, i cant help it, i just do.
I once saw two kids in school kicking a kid on the ground and every1 else was just watching, I was all over them in a second.
So ya, go Vigilantes because, who's gunna help if you won't?
I once saw two kids in school kicking a kid on the ground and every1 else was just watching, I was all over them in a second.
So ya, go Vigilantes because, who's gunna help if you won't?
Omg, thank you only other person here that is bothering to talk about the inherent moral dilemma in vigilantism. One can assume rationally that there is no real, set in stone moral code for this world, since, after all, "I think therefore I am", and that is all you can be 100% sure on (see Descartes for those unfamiliar with this concept). Therefore, if there can be no universally accepted moral code (based solely on the principle of Descartes above, you could just be widely insane and you actually live in a world where rape and murder is encouraged by all members of society but a few) and if every person on this earth is a rational agent with his/her own free will (see John Locke and others), then noone has any right to impose a moral code on any other person. Therefore, vigilantism is simply morally wrong, no matter how "virtuous" they may seem.Gormourn said:
Unfortunately as a geek and as someone who was raised in a fashion that made me appreciate justice, retributivism and Kantian ethics still seem very attractive to me. Even though Alan Moore showed what a realistic Batman would be like with Rorschach in Watchmen, the idealism and honor of vigilantism touches me deeply. We must shun such rose-tinted ideas for logic however, and remember:
Who watches the Watchmen?
