not insane but the older she is the less educated she will be about video games. You need too understand that back in the day movies and music where not considered an art form. Give it time and one (I hope) video games will be a art form.
Wait, so video games aren't art?
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Well narrow minded and opinionated. Obviously not all games are art same as all movies are not art or at least not good art but some games and movies can be considered art.
I did an essay/reprot on this a few months ago as part of my A-Level course. To put it bluntly, videogames are new. Film was not considered an art until long after the first movies came out, and video games have not been out very long.Keenanr1234 said:
However videogames have developed faster than other mediums. This creates a problem in the art world, with one half supporting videogames as an art and the other half not.
It is an on going debate but compared to other forms of media videogames are developing at a much fast rate. So I don't think it will be long until they become the next major art form.
I wouldn't call a video game an art form myself either, and I game almost religiously (I know my limits however, heh). Nor would I do so for movies, or even a book.
Before you all attack me with flaming clubs and pitchforks, here me out. As a disclaimer, let me first say that you all and I will most likely not agree on this.
See, the way I figure, books, movies, and even video games are not nor will ever be an art in of themselves. Instead, I see them as amalgams of art forms. Analogies, if you will - you wouldn't call playing the guitar an art form, but the music created with the guitar certainly could be, correct? Hence my argument While books would be a bit harder to define given that most of them are simply written words, movies and video games are most definitely collections of various art forms. Video games feature various graphical and drawing styles, from the gritty and realistic of Call of Duty to the exaggerated and whimsical of Psychonauts. Video games feature music of all kinds, from the earth-shattering metal of Guilty Gear to the bass-pounding hip-hop of Madworld. Video games have all kinds of writing, from the philosophies of Jade Empire to the vomit-inducing piles of X-Blades.
In conclusion, simply because a game has some good music, graphics, or writing doesn't make the game itself "art", nor does does it make game designing itself an art form. Again, we probably won't agree on this, so all I can say is either take this with a grain of salt, or simply disregard this post altogether.
Before you all attack me with flaming clubs and pitchforks, here me out. As a disclaimer, let me first say that you all and I will most likely not agree on this.
See, the way I figure, books, movies, and even video games are not nor will ever be an art in of themselves. Instead, I see them as amalgams of art forms. Analogies, if you will - you wouldn't call playing the guitar an art form, but the music created with the guitar certainly could be, correct? Hence my argument While books would be a bit harder to define given that most of them are simply written words, movies and video games are most definitely collections of various art forms. Video games feature various graphical and drawing styles, from the gritty and realistic of Call of Duty to the exaggerated and whimsical of Psychonauts. Video games feature music of all kinds, from the earth-shattering metal of Guilty Gear to the bass-pounding hip-hop of Madworld. Video games have all kinds of writing, from the philosophies of Jade Empire to the vomit-inducing piles of X-Blades.
In conclusion, simply because a game has some good music, graphics, or writing doesn't make the game itself "art", nor does does it make game designing itself an art form. Again, we probably won't agree on this, so all I can say is either take this with a grain of salt, or simply disregard this post altogether.
Video games are probably the most personal form of art, traditional art is unique but can only be viewed in 1 way, the way the artist wanted. Movies are exactly the same, even more so because speculation is removed in most cases for flashiness or general appeal. Video games can be everything and anything, a hero embarked on some quest, a lone soldier in a war torn hell, a guilt ridden person entombed withing a symbolic nightmare. Multiplayer is a bit harder to defend, as it's pretty much put in to keep people playing the game. Point behind the slightly geeky stuff is that Video games can be like living a movie, book, or somehow jumping into a portrait,
(quote time): "the quality, production, expression, or realm, according to aesthetic principles, of what is beautiful, appealing, or of more than ordinary significance." so by all means, video games can be beautiful, appealing or of significance because we put ourselves into them.
(WOW I probably didn't need to write a freaking english project for a forums post... I'm going to do something to forget how nerdy that probably sounded.)
(quote time): "the quality, production, expression, or realm, according to aesthetic principles, of what is beautiful, appealing, or of more than ordinary significance." so by all means, video games can be beautiful, appealing or of significance because we put ourselves into them.
(WOW I probably didn't need to write a freaking english project for a forums post... I'm going to do something to forget how nerdy that probably sounded.)
I would have out witted her and logically beat her so damn fast the rest of the class would have said "BURNED!"
Give it 50 years we need all the people who were raised with out any video games at all to sort of...leave peacefully
Such great epic arguments as da bad guize r evul!11! and Natzees are meen!TuringTest said:
I can see what you mean it's so philosophical
Well, I don't think we should be too quick to label video games as art.
WAIT WAIT WAIT!
Art to me is a personal kind of thing, so if I enjoy something then it becomes art. So to me, video games can be art, but only if I enjoy them. That means if it's a game I love, hell yeah it's art. Examples are Mass Effect, Wing Commander and Command and Conquer. But then again there are a slew of games WHICH OTHER PEOPLE LOVE, but I don't, pretty much every sports game falls into this category.
This is also I standard I apply to every other thing that people label as art. Music; I hate rap so that's not art to me, but I love power metal so the latter is art. Novels; Honor Harrington series = art, Twilight series = fart. Paintings; Artistry is found in a work like the "Death of Wolfe" but "Voice of Fire" is just a multi-million dollar piece of vomit stained excrement. Movies; Hunt for Red October is ultra cool art, but I hated the Godfather, fucking sue me I don't think it's art.
So I guess what I mean to say is that no single genre can ever be called art, after all, crap exists everywhere. M'IRIGHT?
WAIT WAIT WAIT!
Art to me is a personal kind of thing, so if I enjoy something then it becomes art. So to me, video games can be art, but only if I enjoy them. That means if it's a game I love, hell yeah it's art. Examples are Mass Effect, Wing Commander and Command and Conquer. But then again there are a slew of games WHICH OTHER PEOPLE LOVE, but I don't, pretty much every sports game falls into this category.
This is also I standard I apply to every other thing that people label as art. Music; I hate rap so that's not art to me, but I love power metal so the latter is art. Novels; Honor Harrington series = art, Twilight series = fart. Paintings; Artistry is found in a work like the "Death of Wolfe" but "Voice of Fire" is just a multi-million dollar piece of vomit stained excrement. Movies; Hunt for Red October is ultra cool art, but I hated the Godfather, fucking sue me I don't think it's art.
So I guess what I mean to say is that no single genre can ever be called art, after all, crap exists everywhere. M'IRIGHT?
I think most people do not consider video games art simply because of the interactive nature they put forward. Most art comes in a fixed form once created and stay that way; we cannot manipulate them without destroying what makes it artistic. With video games, that is not so, or at least not always. Still, if writing, drawing, sculpting, and acting all pertain to what is known as art, then shouldn't video games, which wrap all four around its interactive medium, count as well? At least, that's my argument.
Some people are worth ignoring.
You must have had significant experiences with art besides games... Just write about one of those and move on. If you haven't you have as much of a problem as your teacher anyways.
You must have had significant experiences with art besides games... Just write about one of those and move on. If you haven't you have as much of a problem as your teacher anyways.
Video Games aren't art?
Golly gee whizz, I may as well drop out of Art school then, clearly it's not going to help me!
Golly gee whizz, I may as well drop out of Art school then, clearly it's not going to help me!