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<spoiler= We are still waiting for a great video game movie. Maybe we?ll never get one, but a film like Warcraft at least makes it feel like we?re buffering for it>We are still waiting for a great video game movie. Maybe we?ll never get one, but a film like Warcraft at least makes it feel like we?re buffering for it. This is an honest attempt to recapture the finer qualities of its source material inside of another medium. When it works, it?s a lot of fun. When it fails, it?s merely an average fantasy adventure that focuses too much on familiar plot devices to make a major impact. But there?s nothing wrong with not being great, so long as you don?t suck. And Warcraft doesn?t suck. It?s a flawed but likable adventure that I would happily go on again, preferably as a double feature with The Beastmaster, Legend or Ladyhawke.

SOURCE: Crave Online

Rather than tapping into the goofy core that makes a game like World of Warcraft interesting, the Warcraft movie aims for grittiness, missing the mark quite a bit. It just doesn?t work. The lore is too campy. This is a world where a mage?s most popular spell transforms his enemies into sheep, yet Warcraft acts as if it?s a green-screen version of Game of Thrones. At my theater, the biggest laughs came not from the occasional bouts of slapstick comedy but from the miserable archmages of Dalaran, whose CGI-enhanced eyes look especially absurd when you?re supposed to take them seriously. I had hoped Warcraft would at a minimum be entertaining, but really, I?ve had more enjoyable two-hour sessions wiping on Molten Core. At least the armor looks good.

SOURCE: Kotaku

<spoiler= If you haven?t already invested in the self-serious mythology, it can feel borderline camp, if not downright dull ? or both>But if you?ve never played Warcraft the game, can you care about Warcraft the movie? Given the ardent global following of the franchise, will it matter? For non-aficionados, the two-hour experience could be more concise, but it?s no ordeal. Neither, though, is it consistently involving. If you haven?t already invested in the self-serious mythology, it can feel borderline camp, if not downright dull ? or both, as when an uncredited Glenn Close intones platitudes from on high about darkness and light. Yet there?s no question that it?s a breakthrough in both storytelling and artistry for features based on video games. And compared with another medieval-ish tale, the soporific Hobbit trilogy, this international production is a fleet and nimble ride, likely to conquer overseas box offices and make a solid stand stateside.

SOURCE: The Hollywood Reporter

In the hands of director and co-writer Duncan Jones (who previously earned plaudits for sci-fi outings Source Code and Moon), the film takes a long time to build dramatic momentum and gets interrupted by what seem like unnecessary plot points; some of them, perhaps, geared towards potential sequels. The CG and motion capture work that goes into the orc characters and most of the sets is impressive - Life of Pi Oscar winner Bill Westenhofer leads the visual effects team ? but it doesn?t always meld easily with the live action. The film (rated PG-13 in the US) ends up feeling unconvincing and generic, with nothing to compare to either the dramatic heft of Peter Jackson?s Lord of the Rings trilogy or the raunch and gore of Game of Thrones.

SOURCE: Screen International

With its meticulously detailed realms built out primarily on soundstages and enhanced via CGI during extensive post-production, ?Warcraft? aims for fresh and eye-popping and yet ends up shopworn and rather tacky. It fits into a long line of visually audacious Hollywood gambles: In success you wind up with a sleeper that few see coming, like ?300? (or, if you strike the bull?s-eye, a phenomenon like ?Avatar?), but the ones that miss ? ?The Spirit,? ?Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow,? ?Sucker Punch? ? tend to tank hard. Boasting more than 2,000 visual effects shots, it?s dispiriting to think about the time, energy, planning and precision that went into ?Warcraft? when the final product brings to mind those animated advertisements for iPhone app games. So good at making the most outlandish elements of his first two films seem completely credible, Jones can?t find a way to get this cartoony spectacle to soar. His heartfelt approach to the material only underlines the silliness.

SOURCE: Variety

Imagine ?Battlefield Earth? without the verve and you get this sludgy, tedious fantasy adventure, a fun-starved dud that?s not even unintentionally hilarious. The cast seems mostly adrift, with only Schnetzer giving what might be considered an actual performance. The usually reliable Foster is reduced to gadding about like a prog-rock Jesus in a series of robes that make him look like he?s posing for the side of someone?s van, and poor Paula Patton gets saddled with a sad pair of novelty-store fangs. (To her credit, she makes the green body makeup work; if the Marvel Cinematic Universe ever expands to include superhero-with-a-law-degree She-Hulk, we?re looking at a real contender here.) ?Warcraft? promises, or threatens, sequels, but then so did ?Super Mario Bros.? And come to think of it, if forced to watch either of these video-game movies a second time, I?d probably vote for the plumbers.

All from: http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fantasy/first-wave-of-reviews-for-warcraft-the-beginning-are-sure-to-upset-fans-a142015

Oh well. I wasn't really planning on watching, but now I am definitely not.

Its funny, my friend tried to convince me to go, but just so I could get a month of free WoW. From what I know of WoW, a month is way too short to enjoy it.

EDIT: I just realized that it doesn't look like those are spoiler tags, so heads up, they are.
 

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In other news: Water is wet, the sky is blue, and a thread about a crap movie getting crap reviews will inevitably be attacked by fanboys because the critics obviously can't be trusted because they didn't bother to give the movie a chance because it's based on a video game. Or maybe it's Disney's fault again. I guess that petition to force Disney to stop paying off all of the reviewers to crap on every non Disney movie just didn't work. But seriously though, how could anyone actually be surprised by this?
 

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Video game movie not up to much. In other news, sky remains blue.

*sigh*

I wasn't expecting greatness, the preview footage made it clear we weren't getting anything like that but I had dared to hope for a fun romp.

Meanwhile, comment sections are filling up with denial from people who haven't seen the movie but know beyond a doubt that it must be awesome. Also, water remains wet.
 

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Goofy core of the Warcraft universe? The Lore is too campy?



Fuck you Kotaku :p

Comparing this movie to Battlefield Earth?

Fuck you Variety :p
 

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Abyssal Dancer said:
What a shock, the cynical video-game tie-in movie that even die-hard fans couldn't see the point of, is pointless? Next I'll hear that 'Angry birds' was a cash-grab.
Cynical Cash Grab this says otherwise:

https://twitter.com/Ansirox/status/735394622428590081
 

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Zhukov said:
Video game movie not up to much. In other news, sky remains blue.

*sigh*

I wasn't expecting greatness, the preview footage made it clear we weren't getting anything like that but I had dared to hope for a fun romp.

Meanwhile, comment sections are filling up with denial from people who haven't seen the movie but know beyond a doubt that it must be awesome. Also, water remains wet.
Dude one of these reviewers gave Dragon Ball Evolution a 4 out of 5:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CjQ8E0nWgAEYb00.jpg:large
 

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Samtemdo8 said:
Zhukov said:
Video game movie not up to much. In other news, sky remains blue.

*sigh*

I wasn't expecting greatness, the preview footage made it clear we weren't getting anything like that but I had dared to hope for a fun romp.

Meanwhile, comment sections are filling up with denial from people who haven't seen the movie but know beyond a doubt that it must be awesome. Also, water remains wet.
Dude one of these reviewers gave Dragon Ball Evolution a 4 out of 5:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CjQ8E0nWgAEYb00.jpg:large
So you're saying that Warcraft failed to impress someone who thought Dragon Ball Evolution was good?

"That guy over there enjoys drinking horse piss and even he said this beer tasted bad. So it must be delicious and I should take a great big thirsty gulp."

Yeah, I've done this dance before. Although it's usually in relation to video games.

Thing is, people only ever try to discredit reviewers when those reviewers have failed to confirm their views. When they find a review that says that the movie they want to be good is good (or vice versa) then suddenly there isn't a peep of "well, so-and-so also liked such-and-such so clearly he's an idiot" or "this guy was obviously paid off by Disney".

It's almost as if people are looking for confirmation rather than information or perspective.
 

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Zhukov said:
Samtemdo8 said:
Zhukov said:
Video game movie not up to much. In other news, sky remains blue.

*sigh*

I wasn't expecting greatness, the preview footage made it clear we weren't getting anything like that but I had dared to hope for a fun romp.

Meanwhile, comment sections are filling up with denial from people who haven't seen the movie but know beyond a doubt that it must be awesome. Also, water remains wet.
Dude one of these reviewers gave Dragon Ball Evolution a 4 out of 5:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CjQ8E0nWgAEYb00.jpg:large
So you're saying that Warcraft failed to impress someone who thought Dragon Ball Evolution was good?

"That guy over there enjoys drinking horse piss and even he said this beer tasted bad. So it must be delicious and I should take a great big thirsty gulp."

Yeah, I've done this dance before. Although it's usually in relation to video games.

Thing is, people only ever try to discredit reviewers when those reviewers have failed to confirm their views. When they find a review that says that the movie they want to be good is good (or vice versa) then suddenly there isn't a peep of "well, so-and-so also liked such-and-such so clearly he's an idiot" or "this guy was obviously paid off by Disney".

It's almost as if people are looking for confirmation rather than information or perspective.
I am hating on some of these critics, the others are more rational in their reviews being negative. This guy from the Warp is just ridiculous and inflammatory.

Besides I feel for the director because this movie was a personal stake in his career according to this article and I quote:

You could see ?Warcraft? as just one more entry in the arms race of summer movies. Adapted from the popular video game series, the film (which Universal will release on June 10) depicts the conflict on a mythical world called Azeroth, as humanity defends itself from a horde of invading orcs. With its intricate visual effects, immense battle sequences and a reported budget of $100 million, it is a movie that its creators dearly hope will provide the foundation for a blockbuster franchise.
"Yet ?Warcraft? is an intensely personal undertaking for its director, Duncan Jones. It is a supersize project that this filmmaker and dedicated gamer (who turns 45 on May 30) passionately campaigned to make, with just two previous movies on his r?sum?.

It is also a film whose years long creation circumscribed a period of upheaval and tragedy in Mr. Jones?s life. When he started work on ?Warcraft? in 2012, he had just married his wife, Rodene, after she was given a diagnosis of breast cancer and had a double mastectomy. Then, as the movie was nearing completion, Mr. Jones?s father, the rock star David Bowie, died of cancer in January.

?My film started and ended with cancer,? Mr. Jones said during a recent interview.
 

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Abyssal Dancer said:
Samtemdo8 said:
Abyssal Dancer said:
What a shock, the cynical video-game tie-in movie that even die-hard fans couldn't see the point of, is pointless? Next I'll hear that 'Angry birds' was a cash-grab.
Cynical Cash Grab this says otherwise:

https://twitter.com/Ansirox/status/735394622428590081
WOW! Someone on Twitter posted a video of people clapping in a theater?! The critics were wrong! Hey everyone, Samtem says the critics were wrong!!

/s
Then this movie was made only for the fans.

Outsiders be damned it seems :p
 

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Well, that's a bit sad. I kinda wanted this one to be good. I had hopes this would let me relive some of the initial joy I felt playing Warcraft 2; you know, saving the game just before a victory so I could see the short videos between every third mission in the campaign again and again.

I wanted the story to go back to the roots of the world, skipping all that weird and painfully hyperbolic shit that started with Warcraft 3 and the descent into ever more freaky expansions for WoW.
 

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Abyssal Dancer said:
Samtemdo8 said:
Abyssal Dancer said:
Samtemdo8 said:
Abyssal Dancer said:
What a shock, the cynical video-game tie-in movie that even die-hard fans couldn't see the point of, is pointless? Next I'll hear that 'Angry birds' was a cash-grab.
Cynical Cash Grab this says otherwise:

https://twitter.com/Ansirox/status/735394622428590081
WOW! Someone on Twitter posted a video of people clapping in a theater?! The critics were wrong! Hey everyone, Samtem says the critics were wrong!!

/s
Then this movie was made only for the fans.

Outsiders be damned it seems :p
Definitely, and those fans are called "Investors". You're just lining their pockets, and trying to feel connected to something.
This comment is just mean-spirited and reductive.

OP: I think we all saw this coming from the trailers. It's too bad, but it seems like a general misfire on all fronts. Bad script, stilted acting, odd direction for the effects. It's still cool that it got made at all, I just wish their approach seemed a little more irreverent (but I'm sure that would come with its own slew of complaints).
 

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The trailers don't make it look particularly good or interesting, so imagine my surprise when the reviews are saying the same thing.

Granted, I'm not invested in Warcraft either. I've beaten the first campaign of WC3(nearly 2 decades ago) and that's about all the exposure I have to the series other then the WoW I've learned from the web, so I wasn't really interested in seeing it anyway.
 

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A shame. At least there's some hope - Some of the bad reviews say it is kind of amusing, in an unintentional way.

Luckily, unlike Dawn of Justice, I have zero investment in this movie, so I can't get too upset. But it's still a shame, as this could be another spectacular video game movie failure, which is just a sad. Every misstep is another 5 years added to the time it takes to make a Mechwarrior/Battletech movie.

So, now that Warcraft is looking bad, whats the next video game movie up that might be good? I know Nintendo will have something out in 3-4 years, and Assassin's Creed comes out this year (Christ...), anything else happening soon?
 

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AccursedTheory said:
So, now that Warcraft is looking bad, whats the next video game movie up that might be good? I know Nintendo will have something out in 3-4 years, and Assassin's Creed comes out this year (Christ...), anything else happening soon?
Resident Evil: The Final Chapter
Maybe Sly Cooper, as it seems to have fallen off the radar
There's a Dead Rising movie coming out as well

So, yeah. That aside, this is a shame. That said, there's six reviews on Metacritic (four mixed, two negative), and five on Rotten Tomatoes (three negative, two positive). Neither of these are indicative of what could be called consensus, and Angry Birds varied wildly, even getting an RT score of over 60 before plummeting to around 40.
 

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They should have made the movie about Arthas, watching his descent into the Lich King in movie form would have been great. Going back to just Orcs and Humans almost feels like a step back after things like the Burning Legion and all the old gods we've killed.
 

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I always thought WOW was generic fantasy world #17635. Nothing original enough to make an inspiring film from. So film critics are often looking originality, deep meaning, metaphors, clever shooting etc etc. CGI Generic fantasy world #17635 isn't going to make any waves without a lot of talented people with actual good ideas and passion put into it. No doubt it will be servicable entertainment for ordinary folk, but critics are going to always expect more.