Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Announced - What could possibly go wrong?!

[Zykon TheLich_v1legacy]

I suppose if you and the person you are playing with want to use 7th edition rules, there's no one that can stop you. Don't have to go out and get all 8th edition stuff unless you are a hardcore tournament player.

True, but you won't be able to do it a Games Workshop store, which is part of the reason people get pissed off about stuff like this. Not everyone has the space for a table, a network of friends that plays or a local gaming club, and even if you do, not being able to play at GW diminishes your options.

Oh, they finally made BS4 into 3+, which it more or less has always been except not written that way.

Don't like changing WS4 into 3+, though.

Yeah, WS has always been an opposed roll, since Rogue Trader and at least 3rd ed WHFB not sure how they're going to work this.

 

[Thaluikhain]

Yeah, WS has always been an opposed roll, since Rogue Trader and at least 3rd ed WHFB not sure how they're going to work this.

Works (or fails to work) that way in Aos as well, though. Not really played AoS so can't say how that's turned out.

 

[008Zulu_v1legacy]

you won't be able to do it a Games Workshop store

I don't have the luxury of a(n official) store being close to me, so I have never played there. But it does seem like a good excuse to go on their Facebook and Twitter feeds and blast them relentlessly for it.

 

[JUMBO PALACE]

You'll have to forgive my ignorance as I've never played or looked into the actual table-top 40k game, but if you aren't thrilled with the changes can't you just play an older edition that you enjoy more? I imagine it would be similar to how DnD players resort to previous editions or variants like Pathfinder.

Although, I think I remember reading someone on this site explaining that you'll get thrown out of GW stores if you talk that way so... *shrug*

 

[Satinavian]

Yes, you could play with your friends. But those official stores are some of the best places to find other players. Playing always against the same persons and same armies grows stale fast.

It is not exactly as easy as RPG editions.

 

[Terminal Blue]

What made Rogue Trader great is what made Necromunda great ... the idea of your characters being customised and changing as the narrative went on.

Yeah, for this reason I'm going to (controversially) claim that Inquisitor was the best game they ever made, they just did an awful job of teaching people how to play it in a way that was actually fun.

W40K sells itself on its narrative alone because its mechanics and its characterization is rubbish.

Additionally, I don't think the narrative is that good..

I think at this point it's become memetic because it's so silly, but at this point 90% of the narrative is wrestling promo level.

I admit it is kind of fascinating just as a relic of late-80s/early-90s comic book/metal culture, and I think that explains a lot of its appeal because nowadays that kind of aesthetic is kind of unique, but it's also a sad reminder of just how ridiculous that time was.

 

[Silentpony_v1legacy]

You'll have to forgive my ignorance as I've never played or looked into the actual table-top 40k game, but if you aren't thrilled with the changes can't you just play an older edition that you enjoy more? I imagine it would be similar to how DnD players resort to previous editions or variants like Pathfinder.

Although, I think I remember reading someone on this site explaining that you'll get thrown out of GW stores if you talk that way so... *shrug*

Basically, yeah. GW has a strict 'current edition' rule. Because basically you're not really a player, not really. You're a prop for people who randomly walk in. A 'filmed in-front of a live audience' marketing strategy if you will.

They want you to be playing the current edition, so potential customers can see, and they'd prefer current edition models, though they'll tolerate older models...grudgingly.

Always remember GW doesn't care about its current customers. They only want new customers. Who they will then stop caring about.

 

[Thaluikhain]

and they'd prefer current edition models, though they'll tolerate older models...grudgingly.

Not been to many stores, but never seen a store that had a problem with older models. Now, the store's own models have to be the later stuff, but not seen an issue with people using older stuff.

 

[Silentpony_v1legacy]

and they'd prefer current edition models, though they'll tolerate older models...grudgingly.

Not been to many stores, but never seen a store that had a problem with older models. Now, the store's own models have to be the later stuff, but not seen an issue with people using older stuff.

My mangers - and there have been several at the same store of the years - have always said they'd prefer newer models to older ones, because newer ones can be bought in the store.
Also one manager said there was talk of mandatory current range models. Not even ancient ones from 20 years ago, models from 5 years no longer sold wouldn't be okay.

I've been to tons of GW and they all have this "oh, that's an old Ork model. You know we have new ones right? Just over there, on the shelf, only $20. Why don't I go ahead and ring that up right now while you put that old shitty model away." sales pitch.

 

[Zykon TheLich_v1legacy]

My mangers - and there have been several at the same store of the years - have always said they'd prefer newer models to older ones, because newer ones can be bought in the store.
Also one manager said there was talk of mandatory current range models. Not even ancient ones from 20 years ago, models from 5 years no longer sold wouldn't be okay.

I've been to tons of GW and they all have this "oh, that's an old Ork model. You know we have new ones right? Just over there, on the shelf, only $20. Why don't I go ahead and ring that up right now while you put that old shitty model away." sales pitch.

Odd, maybe it's just that I've been lucky, but whenever I go to a GW with my ork army (none of those models are post 1990, at least in design terms), I usually get a little crowd of onlookers, including the managers, saying how cool they are. My local has quite happily put picks of some of my old RT guard and another oldster's harlequins and bloodletters up on their facebook page.

 

[Mangod]

Always remember GW doesn't care about its current customers. They only want new customers. Who they will then stop caring about.

Sounds a lot like comics industry right now, actually.

 

[Silentpony_v1legacy]

Always remember GW doesn't care about its current customers. They only want new customers. Who they will then stop caring about.

Sounds a lot like comics industry right now, actually.

Its very similar.
I mean for fucks sake my manager sold a Dark Vengeance starter kit to two guys a few days ago, and a codex. Didn't mention that in only a few weeks 8th will come out, and all codexes and old rules will be obsolete.

They simply don't care about anything outside of selling.