Warhammer 40K MMO Will Cost At Least $50 Million

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have you guys seen the new trailer for the 40k mmo? its looking like it was money well spent


good stuff starts about 30 seconds in
 

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Moonpooman said:
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as long as we don't have the ultra smurf's as the only playable marines it is fine.
I think the only space marine chapter there will be the Black Templars. That's at least what PC Gamer told me.
And from what I gather those Black Templar will be the "tank class". Even tho from the trailers I've seen they use bolters quite abit. In fact I have acouple of doubts on if it really is a traditional RPG. From all the trailers I've seen it might be better described as an FPS with RPG elements.

For the Templar at least you use a reticule to shoot your bolter. Briefly seen at 0:44 below.

 

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Dochand said:
As for giving an option to play female Space Marines, couldn't it just be handwaved by saying they're Adepta Sororitas? I know they're not the same, but it would allow people to play as women in power armor.
Nobody saw female Orcs, Goblins, or Taurens in Warcraft III but they sure as hell surfaced in WoW. Think of how much fire an MMO would come under if a race was restricted to one gender. What's fun without messing up a bit of lore here and there?
Because Orks CAN NOT have females. Its fine for orcs..goblins, and Taurens cause their wasn't any lore saying their can't be.
AccursedTheory said:
jhamre said:
Dochand said:
As for giving an option to play female Space Marines, couldn't it just be handwaved by saying they're Adepta Sororitas? I know they're not the same, but it would allow people to play as women in power armor.
Nobody saw female Orcs, Goblins, or Taurens in Warcraft III but they sure as hell surfaced in WoW. Think of how much fire an MMO would come under if a race was restricted to one gender. What's fun without messing up a bit of lore here and there?
Unlike Warcraft, W40K is very specific. There are absolutely no female orcs or Space Marines, just as there is no Brotherhood of Silence, and no Adepta Broitas.

According to fluffy, its not just improbable or against the norm, its IMPOSSIBLE.

EDIT: I've been awake for over a day. Can't seem to remember names.
You need to look at the game from a design standpoint as much as a lore standpoint. Okay, I can easily accept that the lore does not allow for female Space Marines or Orks, etc., but even with the large fanbase that it has the game still has to target demographics. A girl gamer might like playing as the Eldar because they offer female characters, but chances are they won't want to run Eldar forever.

I would assume Tyrannid more or less have no gender, and now I that think about a female Ork wouldn't be much fun to look at...Ugh... A female Space Marine (or Chaos)? BADASS!!!

There are some things you have to break for others to work, although I wouldn't EXPECT any female Space Marines, Orks, or Chaos. But hey, a man can dream...
 

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sleeky01 said:
Moonpooman said:
Nick Holmgren said:
as long as we don't have the ultra smurf's as the only playable marines it is fine.
I think the only space marine chapter there will be the Black Templars. That's at least what PC Gamer told me.
And from what I gather those Black Templar will be the "tank class". Even tho from the trailers I've seen they use bolters quite abit. In fact I have acouple of doubts on if it really is a traditional RPG. From all the trailers I've seen it might be better described as an FPS with RPG elements.

For the Templar at least you use a reticule to shoot your bolter. Briefly seen at 0:44 below.

But there is still a skill bar, and target selection.
I really hope it is not because they are using the same kind of conturl in DCUO...
 

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jhamre said:
but even with the large fanbase that it has the game still has to target demographics. A girl gamer might like playing as the Eldar because they offer female characters, but chances are they won't want to run Eldar forever.
That's why the game may be a hard sell. I don't think most of these things are negotiable, so if they have any ambition of this game being a mega-hit of any sort they'll have to figure out a way to appeal to all the right demographics without compromising lore or game mechanics. There's ways, but it may not fit into the typical "X number of classes, two genders each" standard for most MMOs.
 

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jhamre said:
Dochand said:
As for giving an option to play female Space Marines, couldn't it just be handwaved by saying they're Adepta Sororitas? I know they're not the same, but it would allow people to play as women in power armor.
Nobody saw female Orcs, Goblins, or Taurens in Warcraft III but they sure as hell surfaced in WoW. Think of how much fire an MMO would come under if a race was restricted to one gender. What's fun without messing up a bit of lore here and there?
I agree. Besides it wouldn't mess it up in my mind since they've changed their own lore before. The only thing is space marines are altered so much women wouldn't really look like women anymore. Even if they had female names you'd still just see a guy with a woman's name.
 

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please let this be good,
please let this be good,
please let this be good,
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"Lead us from death to victory, from falsehood to truth.
Lead us from despair to hope, from faith to slaughter.
Lead us to His strength and an eternity of war.
Let His wrath fill our hearts.
Death, war, and blood;
in vengeance serve the Emperor and the name of Dorn!"


Good old 40k.
Will definitely get DM, and head my own Chapter, needless to say it shall be my Space Marine chapter from the tabletop game. :)
 

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Exort said:
sleeky01 said:
Moonpooman said:
Nick Holmgren said:
as long as we don't have the ultra smurf's as the only playable marines it is fine.
I think the only space marine chapter there will be the Black Templars. That's at least what PC Gamer told me.
And from what I gather those Black Templar will be the "tank class". Even tho from the trailers I've seen they use bolters quite abit. In fact I have acouple of doubts on if it really is a traditional RPG. From all the trailers I've seen it might be better described as an FPS with RPG elements.

For the Templar at least you use a reticule to shoot your bolter. Briefly seen at 0:44 below.

But there is still a skill bar, and target selection.
I really hope it is not because they are using the same kind of conturl in DCUO...
Granted it's a very brief shot of that Templar shooting, but it looked to me like target selection consisted of manually moving his reticule to the target. Just like most FPS's today.

As for the skill bar....well my (former)favorite online-FPS was Planetside. And it had a skill bar as well:

 

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The trailer does look interesting. After playing darksiders I expected the game to be visualy pleasing though.

So by the looks of it it's a back water sector that the imperial guard are trying to regain. An imperial crusade.
They may pull it off yet, they've been sensible.

If there's something of major power shifting importance (like a manufactorium from the dark age of technology or something) they could bring in a number of the other races and still be in-line with the lore.

Just hope now that they don't fall into the pitfall of standard MMO combat. If I have to tank with a power sword because they couldn't work out proper combat mechanics I will not be pleased.
 

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I like the 40k thing. in games. fuck tabletop.

But the thing that gets me is this: Why the fuck does everyone love the goddamn Space Marines/Emperor? Yes, power armor and chainswords are cool, but for fuck sake, these are essentially 'Space Nazi's' who kill anyone who doesn't bow to their dominion.

I prefered Tau in...well, everything. Sensible guns (IE, don't explode in your face), sensible battle strategies (IE, don't charge in screaming 'FOR THE EMPEROR' against all odds) and don't go through the 'Warp' because its fucking stupid.

Oh, I also like the Mars tech guys, that's cool too.
 

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Nocturnal Gentleman said:
jhamre said:
Nobody saw female Orcs, Goblins, or Taurens in Warcraft III but they sure as hell surfaced in WoW. Think of how much fire an MMO would come under if a race was restricted to one gender. What's fun without messing up a bit of lore here and there?
I agree. Besides it wouldn't mess it up in my mind since they've changed their own lore before. The only thing is space marines are altered so much women wouldn't really look like women anymore. Even if they had female names you'd still just see a guy with a woman's name.
But that simply wouldn't work. They'd be ret-conning like every piece of Space Marine-related media in the entire IP. The lore is that only male genetics can support the augmentations that Space Marines undergo. I don't think they could change that just to shoehorn in MMO standards, at least not without upsetting (and possibly alienating) the existing fans, who would be providing the backbone of this game's playerbase.
 

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rsvp42 said:
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But that simply wouldn't work. They'd be ret-conning like every piece of Space Marine-related media in the entire IP. The lore is that only male genetics can support the augmentations that Space Marines undergo. I don't think they could change that just to shoehorn in MMO standards, at least not without upsetting (and possibly alienating) the existing fans, who would be providing the backbone of this game's playerbase.
Like 'Thank you for not smoking' movie told us, all it needs is a line of text, like:

"However, in this new age of 'whatever battle is most recent', a line of women were found capable of supporting the augmentations, they form the new chapter known as: Space Maidens!"

Or they just use the Sisters of Battle or whatver they are called and just make Sisters and Space Marines Equal in terms of ability.
 

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Moonpooman said:
Nick Holmgren said:
as long as we don't have the ultra smurf's as the only playable marines it is fine.
I think the only space marine chapter there will be the Black Templars. That's at least what PC Gamer told me.
So the chose the token black marines? odd choice, but better then the smurfs.