Warner Brothers Foresees End of Shoddy Superhero Games

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Sgt. Sykes said:
Kenbo Slice said:
Okay...explain to me how Batman is stupid? Please...I really want to know.
He's pretty much emo; no deadly force; absolutely no character; in Arkham games, he's built like a caricature (I know, so is Jocker and the others, but those ones are supposed to be funny). And basically he's a comical character who wants to be taken seriously. I mean, bat ears, cheese... And all those deus ex machina gadgets?

Nah. I can suspend my disbelief in Batman Begins or Mask of the Phantasm, but in Arkham, he's trying to be so serious it's beyond comical.

As Moviebob put it, the best Batman is Big Daddy in Kick-Ass. At least he know how to use a friggin' shotgun when he needs it.
You've never read the comics have you? Batman is all serious, all the time. He's not emo at all. He has emotional and psychological issues sure but he's turned those into things he's used to fight crime.

Might I bring up how you said X-Men would make a good game, half of the X-Men cast wears silly brightly colored costumes. Also a lot of Marvel characters are overpowered as fuck. They're more of a caricature than Batman is.

Batman has no superpowers, which is what makes him interesting. Also, he has the best Rogues Gallery ever.
 

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Geez it took them look enough to realise that superhero games were bad even if they were suppose to be a quick cash in. Still if they had putten alot more effort into (and not being a film related superhero game) the game could of been better.
 

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I have only played 1 superhero game that was any good in my opinion, that was spider-man 2 for the ps2 (which i played at a friends house), i tried to get it for pc (same cover and everything) but it wasnt the same game.

although, i cant really say on batman, I havent played it because it didnt interest me enough at the time to put down study or other games to play. I will probably pick it up soon but still.
 

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Marshall Honorof said:
While there have been a few exceptions [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/editorials/reviews/9194-Batman-Arkham-City-Review], it's really hard to make a good superhero game. Think about it: In any given superhero story, how many characters are actually stronger than the protagonist?
Erm...so a game wouldn't work where you spend lots of time fighting mooks?

In any case, superheroes are forever fighting something more superpowered than themselves.

Cap: shebsit respect
 

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It was the same with the movies, its like its hard to understand that if they do care about the product and make a good job there is a bigger possibility to succeed.
 

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Kenbo Slice said:
You've never read the comics have you? Batman is all serious, all the time. He's not emo at all. He has emotional and psychological issues sure but he's turned those into things he's used to fight crime.

Might I bring up how you said X-Men would make a good game, half of the X-Men cast wears silly brightly colored costumes. Also a lot of Marvel characters are overpowered as fuck. They're more of a caricature than Batman is.

Batman has no superpowers, which is what makes him interesting. Also, he has the best Rogues Gallery ever.
Batman is Ayn Rands wet dream. He is a mega rich, upper class businessman who at night comes down from his ivory tower to beat up and imprison the poor, the mentally ill, the disabled and ethnic minorities.

He is physically gifted and intellectually superior to his foes. Apparently he found the time to become a master inventor, businessman, detective, mixed martial artist etc etc. If you work hard all your life you may just master one of these fields unless you are elitist poster boy batman. I dont buy it. Overposered as fuck to use your words. He is far better in every way than the powerless working class who depend on him for their very lives.

Now the Punisher? I can get behind that. A Vietnam vet who may have gone a different route if he'd had the proper counselling at the right time. I can buy into that. Frank Castle is a trained killer with lots of weapons who is just angry as fuck. We need more Punisher games.

I loved the Punisher on the original xbox. The way your could interrorgate thugs was fantastic. The part where you lie in a gangsters coffin with an M60 then pop out at the funeral to mow all the unarmed mourners down still makes me smile when I remember it.
 

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Batman is basically the living embodiment of order and discipline. This is why The Joker, the living embodiment of chaos, makes such a good counterpart to him. He is a human at his physical and mental peak who can utterly destroy the criminal element if he was pushed to, but must never take a life because that would mean he has become a part of the chaos that took his parents life. He also has total emotional control, still grieving on his failures. Thus, he sets his brilliant mind and body in a one man war against crime.

Big Daddy is a vigilante with a shotgun who couldn't outsmart a toddler. Taking a life doesn't make you better, it makes you lazier, and means the only reason you're a "hero" is you're wearing a retarded costume.
And I would still take the Punisher over Batman everytime. I find him far more believable than the ever so perfect Batman. Doesnt stop Arkham asylum being a fantastic game though. Even if the last fight was a real letdown and didnt fit.
 

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bjj hero said:
Kenbo Slice said:
You've never read the comics have you? Batman is all serious, all the time. He's not emo at all. He has emotional and psychological issues sure but he's turned those into things he's used to fight crime.

Might I bring up how you said X-Men would make a good game, half of the X-Men cast wears silly brightly colored costumes. Also a lot of Marvel characters are overpowered as fuck. They're more of a caricature than Batman is.

Batman has no superpowers, which is what makes him interesting. Also, he has the best Rogues Gallery ever.
Batman is Ayn Rands wet dream. He is a mega rich, upper class businessman who at night comes down from his ivory tower to beat up and imprison the poor, the mentally ill, the disabled and ethnic minorities.

He is physically gifted and intellectually superior to his foes. Apparently he found the time to become a master inventor, businessman, detective, mixed martial artist etc etc. If you work hard all your life you may just master one of these fields unless you are elitist poster boy batman. I dont buy it. Overposered as fuck to use your words. He is far better in every way than the powerless working class who depend on him for their very lives.

Now the Punisher? I can get behind that. A Vietnam vet who may have gone a different route if he'd had the proper counselling at the right time. I can buy into that. Frank Castle is a trained killer with lots of weapons who is just angry as fuck. We need more Punisher games.

I loved the Punisher on the original xbox. The way your could interrorgate thugs was fantastic. The part where you lie in a gangsters coffin with an M60 then pop out at the funeral to mow all the unarmed mourners down still makes me smile when I remember it.
He doesn't beat up and imprison the poor. He beats up and imprisons bad guys, who are not always poor. He traveled abroad for years to learn his skills and when he came back to Gotham he made tons of mistakes at first, he got better over time. He wasn't born with any of these skills. He trained for years and he still is training. Also, tons of his foes are highly intelligent. Take Bane for example, he speaks eight languages, and figured out who Batman was in under a year and broke his back. He's also a master tactician as well. Bane is just as smart as Batman is.
 

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OutrageousEmu said:
Sgt. Sykes said:
Kenbo Slice said:
Okay...explain to me how Batman is stupid? Please...I really want to know.
He's pretty much emo; no deadly force; absolutely no character; in Arkham games, he's built like a caricature (I know, so is Jocker and the others, but those ones are supposed to be funny). And basically he's a comical character who wants to be taken seriously. I mean, bat ears, cheese... And all those deus ex machina gadgets?

Nah. I can suspend my disbelief in Batman Begins or Mask of the Phantasm, but in Arkham, he's trying to be so serious it's beyond comical.

As Moviebob put it, the best Batman is Big Daddy in Kick-Ass. At least he know how to use a friggin' shotgun when he needs it.
Setting aside how listening to Moviebob makes your argument retarded by association....

Batman is basically the living embodiment of order and discipline. This is why The Joker, the living embodiment of chaos, makes such a good counterpart to him. He is a human at his physical and mental peak who can utterly destroy the criminal element if he was pushed to, but must never take a life because that would mean he has become a part of the chaos that took his parents life. He also has total emotional control, still grieving on his failures. Thus, he sets his brilliant mind and body in a one man war against crime.

Big Daddy is a vigilante with a shotgun who couldn't outsmart a toddler. Taking a life doesn't make you better, it makes you lazier, and means the only reason you're a "hero" is you're wearing a retarded costume.
Also what you said.

And in the comics Big Daddy gave his own daughter cocaine to fuel her attacks. Yeah, he's such a good guy >.>
 

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Hopefully their next game will be complete or, they'll market the game so as not to look like they're holding content back from people who can't get online or, buy used. Honestly though, I've been waiting in vain for a third Ultimate Alliance.
 

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mrm5561 said:
if they really are planning on making better games the first step is finding a dc hero other than batman they can make a game about. green lantern would be fun but since he can make his ring do whatever he wants its going to feel like the player has no control over what he makes. flash is kinda out too cause a game where you can run faster than the speed of light would make for a short game. as weird as it sounds i think they should go with a teen titans game. every hero can have their own gameplay an missions and way to get around the city. plus that means more nightwing and im all for that
What did Comma's ever do to you?

OT: This might be good for the fans of other comic series, but I was only interested in Batman to be honest, so I care not for this news.
 

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Kenbo Slice said:
He doesn't beat up and imprison the poor. He beats up and imprisons bad guys, who are not always poor. He traveled abroad for years to learn his skills and when he came back to Gotham he made tons of mistakes at first, he got better over time. He wasn't born with any of these skills. He trained for years and he still is training. Also, tons of his foes are highly intelligent. Take Bane for example, he speaks eight languages, and figured out who Batman was in under a year and broke his back. He's also a master tactician as well. Bane is just as smart as Batman is.
Not always poor, ethnic minority, disabled or mentally ill but normally fall into one or more of those catagories.

Yes he travelled abroard but he is an expert at everything, obviously spends far too much time in the gym, is a prolific inventor, master investigator, mixed martial artist, expert in psychology, criminology, chemistry, physics, forensics, business, ecomomics, I could go on and on... Polymath does not do Batman justice. He would have to be in his sixties to have a chance at so many specialisms. Travelling abroard for a couple of years doesnt make you magic.

Dont even get me started on who does the plumbing on his batcave or the mechanics on his batmobile...

Batman is too perfect to be true. Having villains that have been to college doesnt change that.
 

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I'd love to see a Blade game. That could be awesome. What they need is good writers, else they will always feel like cheap cash-ins.