WARNING! this is a real threat to basic human freedoms!

[javelinstark]

I can see why people would be upset about this, but it sort of strikes me the same as when people in Britain lost their shit over more CCTV cameras being installed everywhere: surely if you've done nothing wrong then you have nothing to worry about?

man goddamn cops have been suspicious of me for things like stealing and possession just because i have long hair. that "if youve done nothing wrong then you have nothing to worry about" shit doesnt fly. i mean its up to the government whats right and wrong anyway, you have to defend your own personal rights and beliefs and always be sure you stick to them instead of letting the government bend you to their will whenever they decide something is wrong.

 

[Starke]

can we start getting paranoid about communists infiltrating America again like we did so many years ago?

Nope. The only people afraid of that are Fox News and their audience, these days.

 

[zumbledum]

Didnt we already lose basic human rights? patriot act or something

 

[BlackSaint09]

I was gonna write on how this should be completely against what America stands for and yadda yadda, but then i remembered im not American and realized that i had already forgotten the American history that i learned from the tv.
I think this is going too bloody far.
This shit cant pass.

 

[spielberg11]

Ahh, crap... seeing as how Australia desperately copies everything America does, we're going to be in trouble in a couple of years...

 

[Ledan]

Huh...
Did everyone notice the part that says "US citizens and others" inside and outside of the US?
So, is the USA declaring war on everyone? I mean, they are stating that they will kidnap anyone they want, whoever or wherever they are.

 

[mysecondlife]

Just Americans right? Then I'm ok...

But still, sigh.... this country....

Don't feel like living here anymore.

EDIT: nope... nevermind... "Americans and others"

 

[mysecondlife]

Huh...
Did everyone notice the part that says "US citizens and others" inside and outside of the US?
So, is the USA declaring war on everyone? I mean, they are stating that they will kidnap anyone they want, whoever or wherever they are.

Guam, Puerto Rico, and Virgin Islands are not officially considered as part of U.S. although they are owned by them

 

[BonsaiK]

the senate has pushed forth an act that gives the military the ability to throw you in jail without cause, conviction, or end on mere suspicion.

Obama will pass it. They're doing it so it's in place when Assange gets extradited, so they can lock him up for good and make an example of him. Yes, I called it.

 

[RN7]

Wait for it, Supreme Court's going to bring the hammer down on this one.

like they did on the patriot act?

No one ever got dicked over really bad with the patriot act to have the SC call it to their attention. It'd be like if the Indians didn't try to fight that Georgia law in court and end up getting screwed.

 

[Durgiun]

Wait for it, Supreme Court's going to bring the hammer down on this one.

like they did on the patriot act?

I think it's safe to say there is quite a bit of difference between listening in on somebody's conversation without a warrant and detaining them without rights or probable cause for an indefinite period of time.

Anyway, though it is relieving Obama isn't even considering signing off on it, it's pretty disturbing that the congress and senate would both pass it in the first place. I mean really, who the fuck are these people we've elected?

A bunch of psychopathic, power-hungry assholes who think that those lower than them deserve either to serve or die. Duh, we've like known this since like forver, I mean like oh mah gaw.

 

[lRookiel]

hehe, I doubt this will last more than a year but seriously this law is fucked in so many ways.

So basically from what I read (Not the whole thing) the american military are becoming an occupying force on their own country? and detaining ANYONE who they think is even a slight bother?

That defeats the point of a military designed to protect their citizens, how stupid are your politicians?!

 

[Sjakie]

Why are Americans always talking about civil rights?

Because they dont have any, they just dont know it yet!

 

[javelinstark]

hehe, I doubt this will last more than a year but seriously this law is fucked in so many ways.

So basically from what I read (Not the whole thing) the american military are becoming an occupying force on their own country? and detaining ANYONE who they think is even a slight bother?

That defeats the point of a military designed to protect their citizens, how stupid are your politicians?!

stupid enough to put even themselves at risk of being locked away for no reason and give the military almost complete justification for doing anything anywhere as long as its in the name of the supposed "war on terror"

 

[Cowabungaa]

Did any one of You bother to actually check sections 1031 and 1032, or did You all just assume. Oh! It says so on teh internets! Must be true, then!...?

Under 1031:
"(d) CONSTITUTIONAL LIMITATION ON APPLICABILITY TO UNITED STATES PERSONS.
?The authority to detain a person under this section does not extend to the
detention of citizens or lawful resident aliens of the United
States on the basis of conduct taking place within the
United States except to the extent permitted by the Constitution of the United States."

Under 1032:
"(b) REQUIREMENT INAPPLICABLE TO UNITED STATES CITIZENS.
?The requirement to detain a person in military custody
under this section does not extend to
citizens of the United States."

Source: http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-112s1253rs/pdf/BILLS-112s1253rs.pdf

So, yeah. Goddamn it, I'm not even a citizen of the US. Do Your own research?

~Sylv

So they can still just fuck about with other country's people? That's still pretty damn bad, and extremely arrogant to think that they have that right. More international bullying from American politicians.

Well, time to move. Where's a good place?

*looks at the EU*
eh, nope.

Holland's still good bro! Just stay away from the southern regions. Except for holidays.

 

[6_Qubed]

Well, time to move. Where's a good place?

*looks at the EU*
eh, nope.

*looks to Australia*
No R18 rating? Nope.

*Looks at Africa, Asia, South America*

Well, fu-

*Looks to Canada*
There's an idea...

Seriously though, if this gets put into law, it can officially be said that the US as it was intended has ceased to exist. I know there have been similar laws passed during wars, but the War on Terror is indefinite. It's on going, so this law will stay on the books until it's forcibly taken down. Not likely to happen anytime soon.

Oh thank God, I'm not the only one who's thought of moving to Canada, home of the blessed Shatner.

 

[Dutch 924]

Hang on, am I missing something here?

Isn't America always making itself out to be "the land of the free"?
They've strayed from their roots, and are becoming exactly the thing they promised to defend the world against

 

[zumbledum]

Did any one of You bother to actually check sections 1031 and 1032, or did You all just assume. Oh! It says so on teh internets! Must be true, then!...?

Under 1031:
"(d) CONSTITUTIONAL LIMITATION ON APPLICABILITY TO UNITED STATES PERSONS.
?The authority to detain a person under this section does not extend to the
detention of citizens or lawful resident aliens of the United
States on the basis of conduct taking place within the
United States except to the extent permitted by the Constitution of the United States."

Under 1032:
"(b) REQUIREMENT INAPPLICABLE TO UNITED STATES CITIZENS.
?The requirement to detain a person in military custody
under this section does not extend to
citizens of the United States."

Source: http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-112s1253rs/pdf/BILLS-112s1253rs.pdf

So, yeah. Goddamn it, I'm not even a citizen of the US. Do Your own research?

~Sylv

So they can still just fuck about with other country's people? That's still pretty damn bad, and extremely arrogant to think that they have that right. More international bullying from American politicians.

Well, time to move. Where's a good place?

*looks at the EU*
eh, nope.

Holland's still good bro! Just stay away from the southern regions. Except for holidays.

think the big problem is if your declared a terrorist then your an enemy of the state and even if you were born in the USA your considered a foreign hostile and its off to guantanamo, i know a few English nationals got shipped off their with no trial or due process it made the news and stuff, dunno if they got out my care level is shockingly low.

 

[Diablo1099_v1legacy]

Dear America.

Please get your shit together.

Signed Everyone.

 

[TheVioletBandit]

To hell with this, I may move to Costa Rica soon. Does anyone know what their immigration policies are like?