WARNING! this is a real threat to basic human freedoms!

[TheVioletBandit]

Dear America.

Please get your shit together.

Signed Everyone.

Dear Everyone,

You're not really helping.

Signed, America

 

[willsham45]

I always wander, would it actally be for the best if all american states became there own country things would get a bit less stupid from that end of the world.

I hear about this thing that will have the potential at afecting everyone but only you yanks can complain about it.

 

[Diablo1099_v1legacy]

Dear America.

Please get your shit together.

Signed Everyone.

Dear Everyone,

You're not really helping.

Signed, America

Dear America.

WE Didn't vote on a bill that puts us AT WAR WITH OURSELFS!!
WE got our own Issues to deal with, WE didn't think that you would pull some shit like this!
AND WE DIDN'T MAKE PIZZA A STAPLE FOOD!!!

Signed, Everyone.

 

[BabyRaptor]

Obama's not going to sign that. He's already said he won't.

Also, have you read the contents of the "Patriot" Act? It did the same thing, just on a lesser scale.

 

[Rude as HECK]

Dear America.

Please get your shit together.

Signed Everyone.

Dear Everyone,

You're not really helping.

Signed, America

Dear Everyone,
Take the log out of your eye, etc. Check up on the multitude of offensive legislation enacted around the world.

Signed, me.

 

[cgaWolf]

. The NDAA, passed by a vote of 93 to 7, virtually stated that all of the United States may be considered a battlefield, and therefore the American military is permitted to indefinitely detain any American perceived to be a threat.

Isn't that completely contradicting Habeas Corpus & the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878?

Pretty sure SCOTUS will ditch that in a year or two, as they have done with other measures like it that have come before. IIRC the last attempt to suspend habeas corpus was under the bush administration, and was ditched by the supreme court 2 years later.

Ever get the feeling that America should just drop all of its politicians, all its red tape, all its in-progress bills, all its current lawsuits, etc, and just start again?

I'm feeling it quite a bit here.

Isn't that what the second amendment is for?

You guys have the right to bear arms; not to form a well regulated militia (that would be your military), but to defend yourself against that well regulated militia; which initially is required to defend a democratic state, but which historically has been the downfall of open societies more often than not. At least, that's how i always understood the reasoning

 

[TheVioletBandit]

Dear America.

Please get your shit together.

Signed Everyone.

Dear Everyone,

You're not really helping.

Signed, America

Dear America.

WE Didn't vote on a bill that puts us AT WAR WITH OURSELFS!!
WE got our own Issues to deal with, WE didn't think that you would pull some shit like this!
AND WE DIDN'T MAKE PIZZA A STAPLE FOOD!!!

Signed, Everyone.

Dear Everyone,

You did push bills, laws, and so on forward that put you at war with yourselves, and you did it over and over again. Maybe your getting to old to remember your long and horrible life, but let me remind you, it has been a blood bath.


Signed America

 

[xdiesp]

I love it when yankess stand firmly against being subject to the very same rules they force on foreigners. Like extrajudicial jailing and assassinations were "too" wrong only when applied to the fatherland.

 

[Diablo1099_v1legacy]

Dear America.

Please get your shit together.

Signed Everyone.

Dear Everyone,

You're not really helping.

Signed, America

Dear America.

WE Didn't vote on a bill that puts us AT WAR WITH OURSELFS!!
WE got our own Issues to deal with, WE didn't think that you would pull some shit like this!
AND WE DIDN'T MAKE PIZZA A STAPLE FOOD!!!

Signed, Everyone.

Dear Everyone,

You did push bills, laws, and so on forward that put you at war with yourselves, and you did it over and over again. Maybe your getting to old to remember your long and horrible life, but let me remind you, it has been a blood bath.


Signed America

Dear America

Sure, we did some dumb shit in the past, fought wars, made bad moves, but COME ON!
YOU ARE TRYING TO MAKE YOUR COUNTRY A WARZONE!!! WITHOUT AN ENEMY TO FIGHT!!! And don't say "it's to fight the War on Terror" Because that is NOT how you do it!
You are attacking the people you are trying to save.
You can't just spin something like that

Signed, Everyone

 

[008Zulu_v1legacy]

Under 1031:
"(d) CONSTITUTIONAL LIMITATION ON APPLICABILITY TO UNITED STATES PERSONS.
?The authority to detain a person under this section does not extend to the
detention of citizens or lawful resident aliens of the United
States on the basis of conduct taking place within the
United States except to the extent permitted by the Constitution of the United States."

If it was the "companies" stuffing the ballot boxes a year or so ago in preparation for these protests their in-house seers foretold to them, then I'd say what they got passed here is pretty much useless for helping them out (unless, that is, most of the protestors are not US citizens or legal aliens)

Except this civil unrest has been building for more than a year, the real people in charge knew sooner or later that there would be an uprising and so started to plan for it. The ones who come up with these ideas know how to warp and twist the situation to meet any of their needs. You have one non-Caucasian in the group and suddenly everyone gets hauled in "until it can be sorted out".

The right to protest is a guarantee under the U.S constitution and relevant state laws, but that hasn't stopped all those peaceful protestors from being arrested has it?

 

[rutger5000]

http://thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/10023-senate-passes-controversial-defense-bill

yes, you read that right.
the senate has pushed forth an act that gives the military the ability to throw you in jail without cause, conviction, or end on mere suspicion.
and we though SOPA was the biggest threat to freedom.

Entertainment has long since become America's number one export product. (The might make more money on other stuff). I'm not American, so I get the sadistic pleasure to laugh at this.

 

[michiehoward]

Wow, do Americans actually know how their gov't is run?

Do checks and balances mean anything?

Still has to go through the House of Reps, and signed by the Pres.
Also the Supreme Court may have something to say about this.

 

[Shirokurou]

In post-Soviet Russia we surprisingly don't have this kind of crap...

 

[Demix]

Dear America.

Please get your shit together.

Signed Everyone.

Dear Everyone,

You're not really helping.

Signed, America

Dear America.

WE Didn't vote on a bill that puts us AT WAR WITH OURSELFS!!
WE got our own Issues to deal with, WE didn't think that you would pull some shit like this!
AND WE DIDN'T MAKE PIZZA A STAPLE FOOD!!!

Signed, Everyone.

Dear Everyone,

You did push bills, laws, and so on forward that put you at war with yourselves, and you did it over and over again. Maybe your getting to old to remember your long and horrible life, but let me remind you, it has been a blood bath.


Signed America

Dear America

Sure, we did some dumb shit in the past, fought wars, made bad moves, but COME ON!
YOU ARE TRYING TO MAKE YOUR COUNTRY A WARZONE!!! WITHOUT AN ENEMY TO FIGHT!!! And don't say "it's to fight the War on Terror" Because that is NOT how you do it!
You are attacking the people you are trying to save.
You can't just spin something like that

Signed, Everyone

Dear You,

You are not everyone, you will never be everyone. Yes our country is messed up and yes, we know it. The thing is we are very lazy while our government is becoming increasingly retarded.
Believe me when I tell you that they can never truly mess with us, if they really decide to wake up the demon that is our citizens (crazy bastards we are), it will be the American revolution part 2.

Although I can't speak for anyone but myself, I believe that we are not above taking down our own government should we find they outlived their usefulness. They tend to forget that ultimately they serve us and I'm interested in seeing someone remind them of that.

 

[mrmooninnod]

so why isn't every news media talking about and getting people mad you think they react badly to something used in communist china and other similar countries

 

[Roganzar]

They pass this but they won't pass my proposed bill to allow American citizens to kill police officers?

You don't kill police officers. You want government officials, their the ones who tell police who to arrest.

 

[Macgyvercas]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_amendments_to_the_United_States_Constitution

5th Sets out rules for indictment by grand jury and eminent domain, protects the right to due process, and prohibits self-incrimination and double jeopardy September 25, 1789 December 15, 1791
6th Protects the right to a fair and speedy public trial by jury, including the rights to be notified of the accusations, to confront the accuser, to obtain witnesses and to retain counsel

Not to sure if the 5th applies so much. But I'm 99% sure this would violate the 6th.
So, IF, this bill is passed. It's in violation of an amendment thus..... has no, or limiting powers.

This is to what I can figure out. I'm no law man.

I knew there were two others when I posted about this thing violating Four (protection from unreasonable search and seizure).

 

[TJC]

Ah, we love you America.

From a distance.

...

A really looong distance.

Indeed, I never quite appreciated the Atlantic Ocean like in these days. D:

 

[Shadowkire]

Blah blah blah

Blah blah blah

Lol, americans.

Diablo1099 is Irish.

 

[Shadowkire]

Dear America.

Please get your shit together.

Signed Everyone.

Dear Ireland,

Thanks for caring, but please remember that America is the land of sensationalism and that half of what people think that bill is saying is actually a misinterpretation of legalese. It in fact only allows the military more rights on arresting American citizens suspected of terrorism/treason and does NOT in fact allow them to be detained without trial indefinitely.

Signed United States of America.