Was it Homophobic?
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Facism leads to Marxism, Marxism to Socialism, Socialism to Communism, Communism to Modern Oligarchy (masquerading as Democracy).ecyor0 said:
No, seriously, on topic, totally on board with the OP. Highlighting differences between us only reinforces negative stereotypes. Posters like this who get already non-homophobic people like the OP angry only hurt the image of the gay community.
It depends on what that black person is doing. If he is just standing there with a cheesy slogan under him, you shouldn't hate him and you might be a racist if you do hate him. However, if he is saying things like "black people are better than you and if you dislike this poster than you are racist", you are allowed to be mad at it(the poster).Valdrec said:
I don't think that in particular is homophobic, though I do have to question the rationale behind such a poster.
Seems more likely to incite a harsh reaction rather than to encourage the end of homophobia, and this is coming from someone who generally supports the Gay rights movement.
Seems more likely to incite a harsh reaction rather than to encourage the end of homophobia, and this is coming from someone who generally supports the Gay rights movement.
To be fair, there's caring about other people, then there's gross stupidity. The line is hard to define, but it's most definitely there. I personally define that as the point where people start abusing one's caring for their own gain, usually in the form of emotional blackmail or an obvious lack of inclination to reciprocate.Dags90 said:
i get uncomfortable around religious people as well, mostly because they keep telling me i'm going to burn in hell. it's okay to be uncomfortable yet accepting. the difference i want to point out though, is that most things people get uncomfortable with are choices other people make. sexual/gender orientation and skin color are not a choice.Ladette said:
It's a little odd given social constraints(Western cultures tend to value discretion in the ways of love making), but the image in my eyes would be the same if it were of two females, or a male and female engaging in sexual-esque activities; i.e. I wouldn't care.
Nothing like a cultist talking to themselves and proclaiming your eternal torture in waiting, to liven up the day eh?feauxx said:
Uncomfortable with it? Well, free speech means free speech, so your friend has a right to feel uncomfortable with it. I disagree with the way he feels, but he has a right to feel that way.
Again, as long as he doesn't preach violence against gays or discriminate against them economically or politically, then there's no problem legally speaking. There's no law saying you have to be.... inclusive on a social level. But let me ask you something - would you have a problem with a poster that says "racism is a social disease"? I strongly believe it is a social disease (as in, it sets up barriers in society and prevents cohesion).
Let me ask you something - if someone said "I'm uncomfortable with the idea of a mixed-race marriage", what does that imply? That that person is a racist? I would think so! If someone doesn't like or is fearful of homosexual people, you have to ask them - why is that? Is it because they hate or are fearful of gay people? I would think so! And what does that make them? The only word I can think of is: BIGOTED!
Once again - if your friend doesn't publicly condemn homosexuals, acts violently against them or encourages discrimination on an economic or political level, then legally speaking, he's doing nothing wrong at all, and he has every right, I stress this, EVERY RIGHT to feel the way he does. It's only a social disease if it affects your actions in society. A privately held belief, so long as it is privately held and doesn't affect society, might be bigoted or distasteful or plain backwards, but it's not a social disease, as it doesn't affect society.
But the very minute he teaches his kids that gays are disgusting or sinful or inherently bad, then that is homophobic, as that affects society.
On a personal note: I would feel uncomfortable about any poster that displays human affection - it's just something I don't like to see. I have as many problems with that poster as I do with those victoria's secret ads on the bus. I know, men like Pretty Girls, but there's a time and a place for that - and those ads shouldn't be on buses. But I defend the right for those ads to exist. Remember, living in a world with free speech means that you have to deal with seeing things you don't like.
Your friend is more than welcome to put up a poster saying "GAY PEOPLE AREN'T SO GREAT AND I FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE AROUND THEM" No joke, you have the right to put up that poster right now. I mean, if the West Boro Baptist church can do it, so can your friend. If he doesn't like a message, he counter it with one of his own.
But he's still a bigot in my eyes.
Again, as long as he doesn't preach violence against gays or discriminate against them economically or politically, then there's no problem legally speaking. There's no law saying you have to be.... inclusive on a social level. But let me ask you something - would you have a problem with a poster that says "racism is a social disease"? I strongly believe it is a social disease (as in, it sets up barriers in society and prevents cohesion).
Let me ask you something - if someone said "I'm uncomfortable with the idea of a mixed-race marriage", what does that imply? That that person is a racist? I would think so! If someone doesn't like or is fearful of homosexual people, you have to ask them - why is that? Is it because they hate or are fearful of gay people? I would think so! And what does that make them? The only word I can think of is: BIGOTED!
Once again - if your friend doesn't publicly condemn homosexuals, acts violently against them or encourages discrimination on an economic or political level, then legally speaking, he's doing nothing wrong at all, and he has every right, I stress this, EVERY RIGHT to feel the way he does. It's only a social disease if it affects your actions in society. A privately held belief, so long as it is privately held and doesn't affect society, might be bigoted or distasteful or plain backwards, but it's not a social disease, as it doesn't affect society.
But the very minute he teaches his kids that gays are disgusting or sinful or inherently bad, then that is homophobic, as that affects society.
On a personal note: I would feel uncomfortable about any poster that displays human affection - it's just something I don't like to see. I have as many problems with that poster as I do with those victoria's secret ads on the bus. I know, men like Pretty Girls, but there's a time and a place for that - and those ads shouldn't be on buses. But I defend the right for those ads to exist. Remember, living in a world with free speech means that you have to deal with seeing things you don't like.
Your friend is more than welcome to put up a poster saying "GAY PEOPLE AREN'T SO GREAT AND I FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE AROUND THEM" No joke, you have the right to put up that poster right now. I mean, if the West Boro Baptist church can do it, so can your friend. If he doesn't like a message, he counter it with one of his own.
But he's still a bigot in my eyes.
Once again - there is no law saying you have to be nice or decent. Being a bigot, is not a crime. It's socially unacceptable, but the feds won't be knocking on your door and asking if you want to take a ride with them. The government protects your right to have as many backwards, irrational beliefs as you want! That's your right as a Canadian! But it's also their (the gays) government right to not like you for your beliefs, just as it's your right to like them for their sexual orientation.
The government protects all views no matter how distasteful they are to someone else. That's what living in a free society is all about.
The government protects all views no matter how distasteful they are to someone else. That's what living in a free society is all about.
Being a little uncomfortable because of how you've been raised and being homophobic are two different things. I would prefer if no one were uncomfortable by my existence since I'm gay, but I'll take tolerance.
Your incorrect use of 'your' kind of bothers me though.
Your incorrect use of 'your' kind of bothers me though.
Is it odd that I disagree with the whole "minority" thing in general? Guys are guys, girls are girls, people are people, some people are stupid, some people are not. All in all everyone is just a person and to my mind proclaiming some unique status doesn't change that, whether that be due to culture, melanin levels, sexual preference, religious preference, etc ad nauseum.
Can't we all just be people instead of attempting to label everyone in to a corner? Instead of "black gay protestant male" or "asian bisexual agnostic female" or "white straight male beer drinker" wouldn't "person" be a better label?
/end wishful thinking
Can't we all just be people instead of attempting to label everyone in to a corner? Instead of "black gay protestant male" or "asian bisexual agnostic female" or "white straight male beer drinker" wouldn't "person" be a better label?
/end wishful thinking
I find your bold text to be one of the most interesting factoids I have ever seen repeated over, and over and over again. Fun fact: a factoid is something that resembles a fact but is utter b.s. It is pretty funny really, because it seems like everyone believes it because every once in a while somebody on the "hating the homosexuality" side is revealed to be gay or bisexual. It is only big news because it is shocking the hypocrisy some people have and how rare the event is.octafish said:
I would have a problem with the poster just because it is PDA. I don't mind minor PDA (short kisses, hand holding, ect.), but people making out in school or a poster with that on it annoys me.
Hang on, he said he was made uncomfortable by the poster, that could quite simply be because it was a massive public display of affection, along with a slogan condemning you for not putting up with it.Korolev said:
You say Victoria Secret ads make you uncomfortable? How about if they also bore a slogan stating you were a bigot for not being at ease around them? Maybe a leap here, but at no point did he state his friend was uncomfortable solely because they were gay men.