Was it Homophobic?

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Cliff_m85

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I hate people who call homophobia a disease. Or racism a mental disorder. It takes away the blame from the mindset and makes us 'pity' the poor poor individual that CAUGHT teh homophobia or lives with the ailment of racism. *rolls eyes*
 

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clockout said:
A friend of mine saw a very provocative gay rights poster in our school. He was two gay men dressed as hockey players making out. He asked me if was homophobic if he felt uncomfortable with it . I told him " It's fine to be uncomfortable with it, you're not a gay basher so I don't see a problem". I knew which poster he was talking about. I told him " It pissed me off, but for a different reason". The poster said "Homophobia is a social disease".When I saw it I thought to myself " fuck you, just because a person isn't down with who you are does not make them socially diseased."

That poster just really bothers me in general. It's really in your face. I understand the fact that the homosexual community hasn't had it easy, but I don't think you need to be all up in peoples face about it. You're homosexual, big fucking deal ( i'm in Canada).I almost want to rip that poster down. Your part of the human fucking race, you sexuality in meaningless and none of my concern.

In short; Is okay to be uncomfortable with homosexuality. I say yes.

I'm most likely wrong somewhere in here. I do enjoy other peoples perspective in such things, and love expanding my own perspective.
Having uncomfortable feelings towards homosexuality is plain homophobia. Perhaps not an extreme case but it is. Translate the word if you don't believe me.
And a picture of two people kissing shouldnt disturb anyone anymore. Regardless of their appearence.
Just loosen up pilgrims
 

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aussiechoco said:
asking everyone to try and feel comfortable about homosexuality is like telling gay people to be straight. if people feel uncomfortable about anything they have the right to express their concerns, doesnt mean they ''hate'' anyone or have any kind of disease (which is the stupidest thing ive ever heard). gay people can be gay as they want - fair enough. not everyone gives a shit and its something that should never be premoted. i mean christ! whats society come to? people are far too assiduous when it comes to supporting homosexual ideals.

i have nothing against gay people but its shit like this that just really gets me worked up
Homosexual ideals? Such as.....

When people say "I have nothing against _____ BUT" it means they have something against _____.

Daillak Rimli, like a muthafunka.
 
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I suppose its not so bad to feel uncomfortable, though you should really be looking at yourself and asking why it makes you uncomfortable. The poster is, however, completely correct to call homophobia a social disease, as that is exactly what it is.
 

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I think the purpose of that poster is to be up in your face and confrontational. That way you can't ignore it, and it will spark conversation, as it clearly has :p.
 

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I can't see it as homophobic, hell my best friend is gay but seeing a poster of two hockey players making out would make me a crap ton uncomfortable. but going around telling people that its wrong to like to do the humpity hump to their own sex is wrong and saying all gays are bad now thats Homophobic.

L;DR version: Naw bro its not homophobic
 

VanillaBean

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Homosexual people- No problem
Homosexual people making a big display of their homosexuality in public- Big problem.
 

cobra_ky

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Generally, when people use the term Homophobia, they are referring to the equivalent of racism as directed towards gay people. hope that helps.

VanillaBean said:
Homosexual people- No problem
Homosexual people making a big display of their homosexuality in public- Big problem.
How do you feel about heterosexual people making a big display of their heterosexuality in public?
 

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I'm uncomfortable with both gay and straight couples. I just find it awkward and a bit annoying when people start making out in front of me. So if that poster is true I'm a heterophobe too.

As long as you don't try to stop them from being together, I see no problem. You're allowed to be a bit put off by gay people, I don't understand why they have a problem with it as long as you don't act out on it. But if you see a gay couple making out, you have the right to say that it's making you uncomfortable to see their make-out sessions, just as much as me seeing a couple of any sexuality making out.

(Just realized that I might come off as being asexual here. Just to be clear, I am a perfectly heterosexual man, with a few hints of bi-curiosity here and there. I just find it extremely awkward to stand next to two people looking like they're trying to eat each other's faces.)
 

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funny this is still going especially since u can skip 2 pages and it seems u kept readin the whole thing......seems like a sign to me that everything on the topics been said.....multiple times.....and than another time for good measure. .....and once more so even the last idiot gets it....
 

ItsAChiaotzu

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Depends, is Racism a social disease?

There's no such thing as a "social disease" anyway, but in this context it sounds like it means it's something that needs to fixed, which is a sentiment I wholeheartedly agree with.

It's not okay to not be okay with homosexuals.


Skullkid4187 said:
I agree with you 100%! people are acting as if it's a "Civil Rights Movement!"
I wonder why that is? Oh wait, it's because it is Civil Rights.
 

Geo Da Sponge

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I think the worst poster I ever saw on the subject said:

"Homosexuality: It's their choice"

*Facepalm*
 

Nimcha

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Hmm, I really don't mind posters that provoke discussion such as this one obviously has. But I can't help but feel a school isn't quite the right target audience for such a poster. As to anyone who says this is too 'in your face': you're obviously not the target audience so you can ignore the message.

Another thing which struck me reading this thread, what's everbody's problem with public displays of affection? Who cares if people (gay or straight) make out a little in public? I would agree that people having outright sex on the street is taking it a little too far but come on, how can two people kissing make you, someone who has absolutely nothing to do with it at all, feel uncomfortable?
 

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Nimcha said:
Another thing which struck me reading this thread, what's everbody's problem with public displays of affection? Who cares if people (gay or straight) make out a little in public? I would agree that people having outright sex on the street is taking it a little too far but come on, how can two people kissing make you, someone who has absolutely nothing to do with it at all, feel uncomfortable?
Most people are ugly, and I'd rather not watch them gettin' in on with each other?

In all seriousness, it sparks thoughts of sex, and thoughts of two random strangers having sex is a very uncomfortable feeling outside of porn/someone you want to bang.
 

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Fetzenfisch said:
clockout said:
Having uncomfortable feelings towards homosexuality is plain homophobia. Perhaps not an extreme case but it is. Translate the word if you don't believe me.
And a picture of two people kissing shouldnt disturb anyone anymore. Regardless of their appearence.
Just loosen up pilgrims
And your definition of homophobia is the problem here. Some people are uncomfortable seeing strangers making out, regardless of it is people of the same or different sex. It has nothing to do with the fact that it was a gay couple. Fine, I can translate the word for him. Homophobia:"hate/fear of the same".It has come to mean the hate/fear of homosexuality. It doesn't need to be an umbrella term for people that disagree with Public Displays of Affection to get caught under. Homophobia(hate/fear of gays) is a mental disorder and people are using it to describe anyone that feels any negative emotion towards gays, regardless of if that person has a logical reason to be upset about the topic. It should be the word homosexualphobia but that is too long and grammatically ridiculous.
 

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Soylent Bacon said:
I agree with you. I don't have a problem with homosexuals, but I don't feel comfortable watching a pair of men making out or something.

Now before anyone misunderstands this post as gay bashing, which happened last time I voiced this opinion, I am NOT uncomfortable around homosexuals, or around a homosexual couple. I simply don't like to see them making out in public. I also do NOT consider heterosexuals to be "better" than homosexuals and deserving of more rights. My girlfriend and I don't make out in public either. It's common courtesy that should be expected no matter what your sexuality.

It's sad that I have to make a disclaimer longer than the opinion I want to share if I choose to share said opinion.
did you ever think that maybe people misunderstand your opinion because you aren't stating it clearly?

just say "i don't feel comfortable watching people make out, regardless of gender."
 

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It's sad to me how so many people seem to miss the parallels between the actions of the "Gay Supporters" and the actions of historical civil rights movement. Yes, homophobia is akin to racism, antisemitism, sexism, etc. The fact that people think they're different just shows how much more work gays need to do to be accepted. That includes "in your face" campaigns and gay pride parades (though the excessive representation of negative stereotypes in those parades is detrimental and unneccessary). The fact of the matter is that gays are discriminated against, and treated unequally. And no one ever got equality by toning it down and blending in. Would blacks have gotten their rights if they hadn't had marches or got in people's faces? Would women be able to vote if they had stayed at home and just wrote their congressmen? You need to get people's attention in these situations, and you need to call them out on it when they complain.

Being uncomfortable with homosexuality may be common and automatic but it is not okay. And calling homophobia a social disease is accurate. It is something negative and detrimental and it should be eradicated.

If the issue is really about PDAs then you wouldn't be bothered by the genders or the slogan. They would be completely irrelevant to you. If you feel you need to mention either, then the issue may have more to do with homosexuality than you conciously realize. In that case, you need to examine your feelings closely and unless you can come up with a truly rational reason for them, you need to find a way to dispel them.