Watch Now: Suicide Squad Comic-Con 2015 Trailer

[Aiddon_v1legacy]

It looks fine, at the very least I'd watch it just for Harley since Robbie looks like she's really committing to the character and really gets that she's essentially a psycho fangirl. I'm gonna have to see more of Leto's Joker to get a handle on him, but considering the history of people whining about Joker casting before said casting became legendary I'm gonna reserve judgment due to pattern recognition. Plus from what I understand he isn't the main villain so he'll probably get away in the third act to torment the DC universe in the future. Viola Davis as Waller is working well, and it'll be interesting to see what Smith does as Deadshot (who is looking to be the center of the group as we do kinda need someone relatable to latch onto). As for the big cast, I assume we'll get an X-Men thing where some get more focus than others with probably a fatality or two (I can see El Diablo and Boomerang getting their heads blown off) since they're a literal suicide squad.

I think what really intrigues me is the tone. People throw "dark and gritty" around haphazardly, but how else are you gonna do a film about supervillains-as-foreign-legion? It either has to be so goofy it's essentially a spoof or hard-R madness. You can't really do any other tone.

 

[Teoes]

Well I had zero interest in watching the film before and there's a glimmer of interest now, so net positive whoo! This is not just because Margot Robbie remains incomprehensibly pretty. Deadshot's costume looks silly cheap and, well, silly.

Probably won't be paying to see this in cinemas but that's not to say I won't sit down one day and check it out. Better than straight up avoiding it.

 

[DeepReaver]

Frankly, to me it looks like this movie is going to be an over-hyped mess that could do with about 5-6 less characters and plot points.

Quite possibly. I feel like they could have cut the squad in half and it would have been fine. Honestly that's probably still possible. Like, who even are these guys besides Joker, Harley and Killer Croc? I sure don't care about them. It's entirely possible that they wipe out the redshirts in act 2 and the main members of the squad have to pick up the pieces and finish things out.

Really though, the success or failure of this movie depends on the Joker. I do kind of like that they're trying something different. Being different worked with Ledger's Joker, and I don't know if the more traditional Hamil Joker would really fit in the DC movies' grimdark brown and gray universe. Whether or not it's *too* different though, or if the actor just doesn't have the chops to pull it off, that's the big wildcard.

Also, Harley is super important too. If she and the Joker don't have the right chemistry, it isn't gonna work. The trainwreck murder-clown abusive romance of theirs was always some of the best banter and character interaction in the old animated series (and Arkham Asylum, which is really just a videogame sequel to the animated series anyway, in my book).

To be honest with you, I think the joker should not even be in this movie, his and Harley's relationship only add to the bloat that this movie seems to be under...

Beyond that however, the squad could be much smaller, they cut out important characters that should be there like Deathstroke, the plot seems to be all over the place with focus given you have Will Smithshot and his plot, Harley and Joker, The main plot of the movie as a whole, then the plots and little bits of the rest of the squad that would be required to flush them out. There are, in my mind, just too many characters to provide a proper spotlight on all of them in the time allowed.

Given the director they have as well, who is proven to be very good in smaller tighter stories al-la End of the Watch, this movie would have been better off as a miniseries... But who knows, it might be good i don't know yet, but everything from the costuming to the film style, the director choice, the choice in actors, etc etc, just points to a mess of a movie that i have little hope for.

 

[Vigormortis]

I don't know which is trying harder to be edgy. This film's version of the Joker or the bitchy "mehs" from the Marvel fanboys.

Fuck's sake, the edge is so extreme around here that I might need stitches...

 

[Ralancian]

Way less enthused than SvB mainly because I thought this was suppose to be a supervillan "fun" movie. Still it looks good for the actual movie it is and my expectations are suitably in the right direction now.

Also whilst I get kind of what DC are doing with this mainly prior source knowledge helps a lot. This movie would be way cooler if the minor villains were taken down during 10 mins pre-credit Bond-esque sequences before each DC movie over the next three or so years. Then they made this movie with them.

 

[Teoes]

I don't know which is trying harder to be edgy. This film's version of the Joker or the bitchy "mehs" from the Marvel fanboys.

Fuck's sake, the edge is so extreme around here that I might need stitches...

It might even be topping the edginess of those pointing out how edgy everyone is being if they're not jizzing over the trailer.

 

[Gordon_4_v1legacy]

I wish Harley had a different costume; other than that it seems okay.

 

[fenrizz]

I think it looks promising.

I don't really get all the Joker hate, I think Leto is going to be great.

 

[Ralancian]

I don't really get all the Joker hate, I think Leto is going to be great.

1st rule of DC club is hate on anyone cast in iconic role

2nd rule of DC club is to say how great they were after the film comes out.

For previous outrage see Heath Ledger, Anne Hathaway & Batfleck himself.

 

[MDSnowman]

The only reason I'm even remotely interested in seeing this is because it was shot all of a block from where I live, and when you can't walk down the street because Will Smith and a crashed plane are in the middle of the road it gets your attention. I'm not expecting this to be good, however. WB has consistently proven they can't make a a superhero movie without missing the point entirely, and that's when they only have to explain one character. Having to explain eight will result in an incoherent mess.

As for the Joker... he seems fine. I'll wait to see his performance before frothing at the mouth.

 

[Mr Fixit]

I'll be honest, I'm more likely to see this one than Dawn of Justice.

Another thing I've noticed about these DC movies, if the internet hates them I usually like them or at least I think they are ok & not "WORST MOVIE EVER" & the other way around.

 

[WonkyWarmaiden]

*sigh* You know the scarier they try to make the Joker the dumber the character actually gets. Just put him in a nicely tailored purple suit, get rid of those fucking tattoos and give him a crowbar. Keep the metal teeth because those are actually an okay addition and they make sense if this is a Joker who has already killed Jason Todd. Batman probably wouldn't leave the pearly whites intact, after all.

Harley looks like yet another boring rendition of the same crap they've been doing with her design. I guess I should be thankful she isn't a slutty nurse this time around? I wonder if they'll touch at all on the fact that she use to be a psychiatrist?

 

[Something Amyss]

And people wonder why people always say this forum is a hive for Marvel fanboys *rollseyes*

I know, right? Damn people for sincerely not being impressed by a generic 90s trailer.

I agree that is seems like Harley will steal the show. She'll become the "Wolverine" of the DC cinematic universe and get over-exposed and elevated above the significance of her comic book counterpart. I'm not saying she's insignificant, but I can see her easily overshadowing the Joker, much like Jackman's Wolverine overshadowed Marsden's Cyclops (you know, the LEADER of the X-men).

Based on this trailer, she totally deserves it.

 

[Something Amyss]

I don't know which is trying harder to be edgy. This film's version of the Joker or the bitchy "mehs" from the Marvel fanboys.

Fuck's sake, the edge is so extreme around here that I might need stitches...

If your edge lasts more than four hours, seek medical attention.

Trailer still does nothing for me, though.

Well, outside of Harley making me smile.

1st rule of DC club is hate on anyone cast in iconic role

2nd rule of DC club is to say how great they were after the film comes out.

For previous outrage see Heath Ledger, Anne Hathaway & Batfleck himself.

Personally, I thought anyone would be an upgrade given the last film Joker was Jack Nicholson playing Jack Nicholson in the Burton Batman.

Still not sold on Affleck as Kittenless Batman, though. On the plus side, I don't believe there's a chance in hell he could be worse than Clooney was.

 

[McMarbles]

The Wall, Harley and Boomerbutt are working for me so far. Not sold on Joker yet. Will Smith is playing Will Smith, as usual.

 

[Ralancian]

Personally, I thought anyone would be an upgrade given the last film Joker was Jack Nicholson playing Jack Nicholson in the Burton Batman.

Still not sold on Affleck as Kittenless Batman, though. On the plus side, I don't believe there's a chance in hell he could be worse than Clooney was.

I was being mainly tongue in cheek. One of my friends like to remind very often I was very sceptical of Ledger as the joker until I heard his voice in the original teaser. Still the level of internet outrage has become almost farcical and guaranteed Hathaway was brilliant Catowman (to the point she's quite honestly the best thing in the movie). Now it's the same thing all over again with Leto & Affleck.

Not to say people can't have legit concerns and I'm happy to hear them but most are pretty stupid.

 

[Guffe]

As someone not into comics... (before a certain movie, when I see a movie I dig up all the info on past stuff about hero/villain/happening)
Is this movie about several "smaller villains" (suicide squad) getting to work (against their will) together to take down a "bigger badguy" (the Joker)?
If it isn't... what is the premise in short?

Most likely will watch at some point.

 

[Something Amyss]

I was being mainly tongue in cheek. One of my friends like to remind very often I was very sceptical of Ledger as the joker until I heard his voice in the original teaser. Still the level of internet outrage has become almost farcical and guaranteed Hathaway was brilliant Catowman (to the point she's quite honestly the best thing in the movie). Now it's the same thing all over again with Leto & Affleck.

Not to say people can't have legit concerns and I'm happy to hear them but most are pretty stupid.

It's a common thing to see. I've been accused of hating Chris Evans before Captain America (I didn't even pay attention to the Cap movie before it got good reviews), Ledger (who I thought had the range to pull it off) and Chris Hemsworth pre-Thor (who I didn't know from anything, and didn't notice he was Kirk's father in the Star Trek reboot) and so on. Still haven't seen DKR, but I like Anne Hathaway. I thought she was going to be awesome as 99 until I actually saw the Get Smart movie.

So yeah, it's hard to tell a joke from the serious accusations made by a good chunk of the internet.

And to be honest, I gave Affleck a chance in DD and I'll give him a chance here, but I'm one of those people who probably counts as legit concerns. I've always found Affleck to be a likable guy who has sort of a limited acting range. It's not even that he's bad, it's that I question his ability to play this character. And sweet Jesus, when he's staring at the Bat Duct-Tape suit, I am reminded of DD, but that's more an aside.

But yeah. I'm not outraged or anything. In part because I stopped caring years ago. If this Batman sucks, we'll have a reboot in five years. If this Joker sucks, they'll probably recast him. I mean, it would be nice to have a good Justice League movie since that hasn't been done before, but Batman and Superman are ones where I can go back and watch the ones I like.

The worst thing I can say about SS is that my response was...ehhhh. I don't hate it. And I did actually like Harley Quinn.

But I do have a lot of apprehension about both these movies.

Anyway, yeah, it's more that it's hard to tell tongue in cheek from serious ranting, I guess. The rest is me rambling because I have sworn off sleep.

 

[Sonicron]

You know, at first sight I really don't like the look of Leto's Joker, but at a second glance he does have a seriously creepy vibe going for him. He doesn't radiate madness so much as a warm delight at the suffering of others; Joker is supposed to be a multifaceted nutjob, but they could have done worse than going with the character's sadistic facet. Plus, Leto (in costume/makeup) kinda looks like a strung-out Steve Buscemi, which is a good thing when you're going for creepy. I reeeeaaaally don't like his voice and laugh, but all we've seen so far are a few snippets, so I guess they'll have enough time to try and win me over.

Smith looks to be in his element once again, which is always good. I just hope they don't make him the face of the squad. What happened to Deathstroke, anyway? Isn't he supposed to be the, y'know, leader of this group?

And whoever's playing Harley is doing a bang-up job. Terrific portrayal of the character, equally mad and fun.

 

[endtherapture]

And people wonder why people always say this forum is a hive for Marvel fanboys *rollseyes*

Harly Quinn looks incredible.

To be fair. The Marvel movies are at least entertaining. So far the DC movies are... bad.

I mean did you see Man of Steel? That movie is fucking awful. The CG was so bad (literally there are video game models that look better) and overused that I'd believe Goku was in those scenes before Superman. I damn near fell asleep during the second act, and I never do that watching movies.

I mean I tried to give it a chance. It even had some scenes and moments I liked, basically every early scene of Superman saving people, but that was all brought down by a just plain objectively bad movie. Only the biggest fanboy or most ignorant movie goer could forgive that terrible movie. And that's one of the better movies other than the Dark Knight movies.

Say what you will, but the worst Marvel movies still entertained me. It takes more than darkness and edge to be mature. I feel like DC is stuck in some teenage mindset about what is mature and misses actual maturity as a result. Comedic relief isn't childish, but thinking Man of Steel was mature sure is.

I wouldn't call the Escapist Marvel Fanboy territory. I'd say that DC needs to prove itself by making a good movie. I'm still waiting on it. And judging by the Batman V Superman trailer, I expect to continue waiting.

Their animated films have actually been fairly good, though.

I loved Man of Steel. Maybe I'm the only one. I've seen all the Marvel films too but the only ones I'd rave about are the two Captain Americas and the first Avengers film. But I really really liked Man of Steel. Most of the Marvel films are average to mediocre to bad for me. Just generic action films with a Marvel skin on them. Man of Steel has a really good score, art design, visual style for me so it just clicked to me.

Leto is channelling too much Ledger and not enough Hamill.

Bet Joker is the bad guy.

Hmmm. I'm 50/50 on the character of the Joker from this. Who is the joker to sit in someone's chair and let them put tattoos on him? Unless he did them himself - that would be different/more interesting. I could see him being all cut up and covered in scars, though. That would be pretty scary. I won't fault him for his method of whom to follow for portraying the character. I love Hamill's joker, but that's admittedly just a voice. I imagine performing visually, in front of the camera is informing a lot of his/and the director's artistic decisions in ways that are different from ADR work.

*Rant Incoming* I saw 30 Seconds to Mars concert once whilst overseas. Leto is an ass hole. Kanye's concert shenanigans don't even come close - just more publicised. After seeing the way he openly insulted the people that paid money to see him, I have a hard time with the idea of supporting anything he is a part of. He's skilled and talented for sure - and I think he will play the part convincingly. But he is a monumental ass hole. His concert got very, very uncomfortable. My friends who were native to the area strongly considered leaving. He toned it down after some people in the audience apparently let him know they were getting sick of it. I don't know why he seemingly thought noone in the audience could understand English or why he did any of the bullshit he did at the show. At the end, noone was begging for an encore. *END RANT*

Additionally, any time the title of the film is forced into an awkward line of dialogue - it's not a good sign of strong writing.

HOWEVER, Harley Quinn. She's going to pull a Hulk and steal the whole movie (and no I'm not a fan boy - the second Avengers movie was shit, except for Vision - he was awesome). And she seems to be perfectly cast. If I see it, it will be solely because of what the previews have shown of her performance. That's an extremely strong statement - that I want to see this movie now in spite of that Leto fucker.

Yeah I'm not sure about this "white trash" Joker. I'm sure he'll be a decent psychotic character, but I can't imagine this Joker being Batman's arch rival. He is like Zsaz with more personality, not the Clown Prince of Crime. But we will see.

Jared Leto is an incredible actor, and I really enjoy 30 Seconds to Mars, but on stage he's just an actor playing as a rock star - hence the peentention, arrogance etc. He's a big talent with a big ego.

Jury is still out, he could do a great Joker, he could be a divisive or a rubbish one. I would just like a Mark Hamill esque Joker on the big screen.