Watch Star Wars Episode VII's First Official Trailer Right Here

[ckam]

Exciting. And I can't tell what's going on. Good.

 

[Ark of the Covetor]

Oh kindly shove the "realism? in MY fantasy movie?!" nonsense somewhere uncomfortable; as people have spent countless hours on countless forums explaining to "judgement reservers" the world over; "realism" and "internal consistency" are not the same thing. It doesn't matter if a fictional world follows the rules of reality as long as it follows its own already-established rules. Yes, moronic crap like the "lightwhip" exist in the EU, but given Disney literally eradicated the entire EU from canon just a short while ago specifically so they could pick out the good bits and ignore the nonsensical drivel that naturally builds up in a semi-official ecosystem that often amounted to legitimised fanfics(a great decision IMO; the EU had many, many more stinkers than it had gems, particularly in the post-RotJ stuff that the films will now be overwriting), their existence is hardly a good peg for anyone to hang a positive view of the broadsword on.

Your unnecessary rudeness aside, pray tell what "established" rules does the core crop of films have that precludes the inclusion of a light-saber with a hand-guard?

Because I heard the same bullshit when Episode One came out and self-proclaimed "die-hard fans" bitched about Darth Maul's dual-sword. They cried, "Myah! That's not canon! You couldn't wield that properly!"

Now I see the same people saying dual-bladed light-sabers are fine, but this hand-guard thing.... IT'S BLASPHEMY!

So please, do enlighten me as to why the sword in the teaser is somehow 'offensive' to the canon of the core films "established rules". Rules, it seems, that are so fluid as to not even matter.

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Or perhaps I should say: Rules so fluid that the only real stipulation be, "it's a sword that glows".

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For that matter, how dare you scream about "internal consistency". Even the films aren't consistent with the displayed behavior and physical properties of light-sabers.

They're consistent in one respect; they cut through anything except another lightsaber blade. The energy quillions have physical projectors which extend from the handle, which would be cut through if you made any attempt to trap an opponent's blade; you can't grasp the lightsaber blade and wield the sword in a wide two-handed stance using the quillions as a weapon as medieval swordsmen sometimes did. They're pointless ornamentation that do nothing except make the weapon more dangerous to the user than it already was, which as I said is exactly the kind of flash-first, logic-never aesthetic that Abrams loves.

And I obviously can't speak to other people, but if you'll note above I don't, and at the time I didn't, throw a hissy over Maul's saberstaff - I thought it was a bit OTT, but it worked in the world. My reasoning is unchanged and consistent, and it is not diminished by the fact some other person's at some other time was not, so take it up with them.

 

[Razorback0z]

Curse them for managing to hype me so easily.

 

[josh4president]

So does this mean that Stormtroopers aren't the Jango Fett clones anymore?

I just don't recall it being addressed in the films before now.

 

[Gizmo1990]

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At what point in my post did I say that I think the movie will be good? The music plus the Falcon made me a little nostalgic. At no point in my post did I say that I think this will make the movie good. In fact my post made it clear that while I am trying not to judge it without more info, what I have read so far makes me think it will not be any good.

I agree with what you said but I don't like being called a blind fanboy who will think the movie is good as long as there are plently of Falcon shots.

 

[Tumedus]

So does this mean that Stormtroopers aren't the Jango Fett clones anymore?

I just don't recall it being addressed in the films before now.

The clone troopers were evolved into Storm troopers which began to use other varieties of clone templates and eventually human recruits.

It's never explicitly stated in the films but it is implied (and touched on in the now defunct EU).

 

[Yokillernick]

Tatooine? Check.

Also, is it /just/ me, or does the film quality of that trailer feel a bit...amateur? A very good amateur, but not of the quality you'd think Abrams would have avilable. I dunno, maybe he's attempting to make it low fi on purpose for dem nostalgia feels.

I hear you. I pretty much have the same gripe that the trailer looks more like a fan made trailer than one made by JJ Abrams. Also again I have to agree to the lightsaber hilt being extremely retarded. One question though since they showed us the Millennium Falcon can we expect a 70 year old Han Solo to pop out and be like "Hey man children, remember when Star Wars was not shit?"

 

[KiramidHead]

I honestly think this looks really damn good. And how long before we get a ranting MovieBob video where he picks apart every ngle detail and uses it as proof that J.J. Abrams is teh debbil?!?

 

[A_Parked_Car]

It looks alright. Pretty much exactly what I expected. The sleek looking Storm Troopers were pretty cool, as were the X-Wings. I'm still cautiously optimistic that the movie will turn out decent. Regardless of the actual quality of the film it will still be derided as "the worst thing ever" by devotees I'm sure. I have generally been avoiding Star Wars related threads for that exact reason. I can already see the shitstorm brewing on the horizon.

 

[Max_imus]

That crossguard though. I just....sorry but I just burst out laughing. Everything else was fine, the fat speeder bike, the rolling R-series-droid thing, and that low X-Wing flyby was awesome. But man, that Sith needs to compensate for something, surely.

 

[RavingSturm]

Looks pretty cheesy but I'll still watch this. Bet its gonna be throwing "dont you remember how cool x" moments left and right with all the subtlety of a spiked bat to the face.

 

[Cyberstrike_v1legacy]

IMHO JJ Abrams and company has ruined Mission: Impossible and Star Trek chances are he'll ruin Star Wars too. I've yet to see anything that this clown has done that is even remotely good.

 

[Something Amyss]

IMHO JJ Abrams and company has ruined Mission: Impossible and Star Trek chances are he'll ruin Star Wars too. I've yet to see anything that this clown has done that is even remotely good.

Star Trek was "ruined" before Abrams entered the scene.

 

[Adam Jensen_v1legacy]

Why all the hate? It's a teaser, not a full trailer. Of course it didn't show anything important. But there is nothing wrong with it. It's fine. You can't say that this will end up being a bad movie based on this teaser. There's nothing to hate here. In fact, there's a lot of original trilogy vibe in this trailer. It doesn't look like the prequels AT ALL. And that's a good thing.

 

[crazygameguy4ever]

the movie trailer looked more like something a team of fans with too much time on their hands would throw together as a fake trailer for a movie that will never really be made then it did an official trailer.... kind of funny actually .. pretty amateurish over all and i bet real fans could probably made a trailer that looks way better then the official one was..

 

[Hagi]

Looks cool enough I guess.

The crossguard saber really depends on how it's used though. If the crossguards are always on I don't think that works, if they're flipped on and off in combat depending on the situation it could be good though.

I do like the Templar symbolism it seems to imply though, hoping they build on that.

 

[EternallyBored]

IMHO JJ Abrams and company has ruined Mission: Impossible and Star Trek chances are he'll ruin Star Wars too. I've yet to see anything that this clown has done that is even remotely good.

Star Trek was "ruined" before Abrams entered the scene.

Yeah, After Enterprise being pretty mediocre, and nothing else on the horizon, Star Trek was pretty much dead for years before Abrams came along. He may not have resurrected it into the realms of popularity of the original series, or when next generation and deep space 9 were running, but it's not like the man took a healthy popular property and ran it into the ground, he took a franchise that was on its last legs and tried to reboot it. Opinion varies on how successful he was at it, but there really wasn't any place to go but up back when he first was put in the director's seat.

OT: It's a teaser so not much to see here other than some disjointed shots, the x-wing and millennium falcon scenes were good looking, so if nothing else the special effects seem to be coming along nicely. The complaints about the lightsaber seem a bit silly as the lightsabers have never been realistic or safe, or even made much sense. People have been nitpicking the lightsaber designs since the original trilogy. I don't know exactly what people think lightsabers are supposed to be, but everyone seems to have their own threshold for what they deem as "making sense" for how lightsabers work and what designs make sense or are just silly.

I guess since it's just a teaser fans have gotta nitpick something, but the lightsaber arguments for what looks silly or impractical and what doesn't have never made sense to me for the last 20 years I've been having these arguments, the entire concept of a lightsaber in general is goofy and nonsensical, adding a crossguard to one doesn't strike me as being noticeably goofier than anything else wrong with the entire concept of laser swords

 

[ecoho]

Wasn't that Benedict Cumberbatch doing the voice over?

Is this a good time to reveal how much I dislike the Star Wars films? Or, will that just lead to torches, pitchforks, and awkward conversations about what is to be done with my dead body?

Nope, no awkward conversations about what is to be done with your dead body. It will be put in giant wicker Greedo and burnt as an offering to the gods to restore Han shooting first.

I cannot tell, as the narrator never tried to pronounce the word "Penguin."

No! Not the Bees! Not the Bees! Wait. . . are there bees in the Star Wars universe?

For those of you complaining about the LightSword (As I think it should be called), just remember...

Spoiler: There have been other lightsabers that looked cool at first, until you realized how dangerously impractical they are.

Indeed, the Light-Staff used by that one dude in Episode I was not only impractical, but insanely dangerous. Virtually all forms of staff fighting require the wielder to move their hands actively up and down the staff as they strike and block. This allows for a much wider variety of strikes and prevents the hands themselves from being targeted by the opponent. That being said, this light-sword's guard looks like an even better way to kill yourself. . .

ok first off there are double bladed staves in the real world and they have their own unique fighting style as to not hurt themselves I would assume that duel sabers have a similar style.

next the new saber has a lightsaber cross guard which one could see as useful if the hilt has a good grip as it allows you to counter an opponents blade stroke and allow you to strike in one move.(see medieval sword fighting to see how this is done.) btw if your touching the cross guard and not attacking with the hilt when you do it your doing it wrong

 

[Falling_v1legacy]

The problem with that laser-broadsword is that it doesn't have a crossguard. It has the equivalent of two daggers where a crossguard should go. That really is only dangerous to the wielder itself. I can't make sense of the laser-broadsword in any manner.
1) Internally, lightsabers cut through most things. Therefore, a light saber would most likely cut right through where the 'crossguard' meets the blade
2) If the non-light saber part of the 'crossguard' is made of a metal that resists the cut of a lightsaber, it would be better to make a REAL crossguard out of that metal. One that won't cut you open if your sword is forced back into your face, or one that won't cut off your leg if lower your sword at a slightly bad angle
3) If they're going for Rule of Cool... I think it looks very, very silly. A double-bladed lightsaber fits under Rule of Cool, plus it is at least somewhat internally consistent- a lightsaber will cut apart the handle. A laser-broadsword looks super dumb to me.

I can't make it work according to internal consistency or 'it's just cool.'

The beginning of the trailer has an amateur fan-made movie trailer feel. But I can't put my finger on why. I do like the second half. It still could be a good film, but this teaser trailer didn't increase my hopes so much as make me dial my expectations down. So if the purpose of a teaser trailer is to increase hype, then for me it failed.

 

[Elvis Starburst]

I just love that people are losing their shit over the light-saber with a hand-guard.

You people DO realize, of course, that you're bitching and moaning about the unwieldiness of a sword that, by it's very (in canon) nature, is unwieldy? And more over, you're complaining about the believability of the hand-guard of a sword that literally can not function, in a realistic sense, as it is often displayed in the films?

I mean....fuck's sake, calm down a little. It's just a hand-guard. And at this point they'll need a little more than just color variants to differentiate between them. Besides, from what I'm told, that type of light-saber is actually in-canon. So if you want to lose your shit about it, direct it at Lucas.

Speaking of which, at least take a little solace in knowing he isn't a part of the film this time around.

As for me, I was more disappointed that the teaser featured nothing but nostalgia wank. There wasn't a thing in there that felt new, fresh, or different. Just retreads.

Still. It's a teaser. And, there's more than a year before it hits theaters.

I'll be reserving judgement until then.

[sub]And even then, my judgement won't be nearly as harsh as some. I'm not really that big a fan of Star Wars.[/sub]

Sweet pacific rim job, THANK YOU! Glad someone had to say it... It's just a damn lightsaber... I agree the first bit of the trailer was kinda meh, but I did like whatever else I saw. Seems pretty interesting. and heck, I never really *hated* any of the films. Episode 1 and 2 was shitty (3 was alright, in my opinion), but they all had something neat about them that we all can agree was pretty cool. Pod Racers, guys?

Should be cool. I know I'm gonna go see it