Watchmen (film)

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Hey Joe

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It ain't as good as the book, but it's as good as a movie based on the book is going to get. As a movie based on one of the most loved texts of the last 20 years, Zach Snyder was always going to have a tough sell for this one. Entire audiences would be searching every frame for the meaning permeating through their beloved text. The question is though, did they pull it off?

Well, it came damned close. It came as damned close as a movie can get to expressing the themes and depth the book does, but for fans of the novel, the film will fall agonisingly short but it's through no fault of the film itself.

It's a damned fine film, perhaps one of the best of the year and for those unacquainted with the text it will open their eyes to a whole new way of thinking about superheroes. It's a superbly crafted film, with a visual electricity and some great performances elevating this flick from standard comic book film to a whole new beast.

All of the characters of the book are well represented, from the cold and subtle facial expressions of Doctor Manhattan played by Billy Crudp, to the raw intensity of Jackie Haley playing the psychotic Rorschach, and the manic depresion of the Comedian is brought to life admirably. It's clear the actors aren't in it for the pay check, but in it for the opportunity to bring the characters to life. The only disappointment is Mathew Goode as Ozymandias who fails to bring a presence to the screen that his character dictated.

That being said, they all bring the intricacies and nuances of their characters to the fore, and some of the scenes between the Silk Spectre and Nite Owl are great, as they explore their sexuality as tied to their personas.

Visually, the film doesn't employ the secondary colour scheme employed by the comic, but in its place is a beautifully photographed piece. Snyder shows his visual flair here, as screen panels are brought to life with an intensity which makes it an incredible experience for devotees of the novel. The opening credits especially are an absolute delight.

Striking, is an understatement. The screen brings to life the still panels, with all of the intricate details of the panels brought to life. From copies of "Under the Hood" lying around, to news clippings hanging on the wall all of the scenery is lovingly crafted with detail which will have fans of the novel grinning from ear to ear as they fondly remember the panels referenced.

Referencing the detail left out is perhaps the most frustrating part of the film for fans, as it points to detail that in parts the film yearns for. The back story of Ozymandias and Silk Spectre II are largely left unexplored and the tribulations of Rorschach's childhood are teasingly floated in front of our eyes and then snatched away.

It was always going to be difficult to fit everything in, and the film already runs a comparatively long two and a half hours. In truth though, if they didn't cut things, the film would have run for four. The novel uses news excerpts to explore the world and back stories of the characters, and that's just not quite possible in a film format.

The question is though, is the inherent meaning of the film lost in these cuts?

Well, for those who have read the novel the meaning will all be there, background explained with a flash of newsprint in the background but for others it may just get a little confusing and the meaning lost.

That being said, the film does a sterling job of exploring the themes inherent in the novel. One person I saw the film with could appreciate the nuances of the tale, and I now have a request to lend the novel to her so she may explore the world more.

Plot wise, it's all pretty solidly paced but one irksome moment comes when the climax comes. It feels rushed for a momentous moment of meaning, and some of the enormity of the moment is lost by the rush to get to the end of the film. Perhaps it's that as a reader you can hold the book in your hands and let the neding unfold slowly and ponder on philisophical points but having the moment forced on you like the Comedian on the Silk Spectre leaves an unwanted taste in the mouth.

One area the novel couldn't possibly explore though is the aural realms. The music employed in the film is nothing short of stunning. Using Dylan, Hendrix and Cohen to underpin the themes of the scene add another layer of meaning to proceedings. The music is from the quotes present at the end of each chapter, and for fans hearing the quotes of the music played in the theatre is an absolute delight.

The thing is though, for all of the meaning which is referenced visually and aurally it remains something special for fans of the book only, but an extraordinary comic book film for others.

Perhaps the greatest work of this film will be to tease those to seek out the book, to re-read the novel as a whole layer of meaning is hinted at. It's this meaning which would have elevated this film into a masterpiece, but as it stands it's a damned good comic book film.

It's as good as a two and a half film version of Watchmen is going to get. An experience of a lifetime to see the panels in live action for devotees, an intriguing film for those not acquainted.
 
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I'm glad that it turned out as good as it could. No film could ever capture the stark appearance of the original. I just wish we could get rid of some of the poseurs/shoddy merchandise.
Nice work Hey Joe.
 

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I have a feeling that I'm the only one on this website who will be watching and reviewing The Watchmen from the perspective of someone who has never read the novel. I have tickets for midnight, and staying up till 3AM in the morning just to come home, then till 4AM so I can write the review isn't going to make me very happy.

I found your thoughts interesting regarding the running time though. I can't help but think of Branagh's Hamlet (1996) whose film ran for four hours in order to capture absolutely everything. Snyder might've been able to pull the same gambit and still get the wide release since that would doubtlessly satisfy the hardcore fans and those curious enough to see what the hubbub was about. Maybe they should've pulled Branagh from Thor and gave him The Watchmen instead?
 

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Sounds good, I'l get a group of mates to go see it with me. Haven't read the graphic novel but sounds like I'l want to afterwards.
Can't recommend it highly enough. It will help fill in some gaps and make you look at the themes in the film more closely.
 

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Maet said:
I found your thoughts interesting regarding the running time though. I can't help but think of Branagh's Hamlet (1996) whose film ran for four hours in order to capture absolutely everything. Snyder might've been able to pull the same gambit and still get the wide release since that would doubtlessly satisfy the hardcore fans and those curious enough to see what the hubbub was about. Maybe they should've pulled Branagh from Thor and gave him The Watchmen instead?
Maybe only Danny Boyle could have pulled that off right now. I would absolutely killto see a four-hour cut of the film. Maybe the DVD will have some extra content...hopefully.
 

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Snyder is going to release a 3.5hr director's cut with everything in it.

http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/articles/1605378/story.jhtml

So hopefully some of the missing chapters will be included.
 

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I recently read the graphic novel after seeing freind with it and had the idea spelled out to me. I can't wait to see the film, I'll probably see it with some mates. Also trying to lend the book to as many people who want it to save them money
 

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Releases the 13th in Sweden, hurray! -.-

Seriously, how the bloody hell did they miss it? There hasn't even been any marketing for it here.
 

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Joe, this question is extremely important: Have they fucked around with the ending in any way shape or form?



Nice review, combine this with the Watchmen Ifx that dropped through my door this morning and I might have to go see it...
 

Hey Joe

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fix-the-spade said:
Joe, this question is extremely important: Have they fucked around with the ending in any way shape or form?



Nice review, combine this with the Watchmen Ifx that dropped through my door this morning and I might have to go see it...
Yes, they changed the ending. It still makes sense in the grander scheme of things though and even adds to the themes of the novel, don't worry. It is still a bit rushed though.

ENDING SPOILER

They change the squid attack localised in New York to attack in many cities around the world. The attack is blamed on Doctor Manhattan, so instead of unting against a extra-dimensional threat, they are united against Doctor Manhattan who is in another galaxy. They are united against their walking deterrent.
 

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Never mind about what I wrote before.

Great review, man. Now I should know what to expect from the movie. Quick question, though: in one of the trailers we see some kind use his mind to throw a knife at a mirror? Where's that in the movie?
 

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Copter400 said:
Never mind about what I wrote before.

Great review, man. Now I should know what to expect from the movie. Quick question, though: in one of the trailers we see some kind use his mind to throw a knife at a mirror? Where's that in the movie?
What did you write before?

Anyhow, I don't particularly remember any knife-throwing antics but I could be wrong.
 

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Have just gotten home from the theater myself I must agree with you. It is a very well done movie that deserves to be appreciated for what it is. Of course if you watch it while trying to compare it to the book your obviously going to be disappointed. But if you watch it for what it is you can still see the same great story. The movie covers pretty much all the major points of the story. I actually saw it with three of my friends (who haven't read the book) and they thought it was great. So if you haven't read the book you'll find a great story, if you did read it then watch it for what it is and maybe you'll gain an appreciation for it.
 

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I've read the graphic novel and it's a great read, real complex. Haven't seen the movie yet but I saw the TV spot and ozymandias has turned as emo as spiderman in number 3 which isnt encouraging but gonna see it anyway, ty for review hey joe
 

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Hey Joe said:
What did you write before?
Oh, I posted something silly about not remembering any relationship between Ozzy and Silk Spectre II before I realized I'd misunderstood what you said about the movie not going in depth on their backstory.
 

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Hey Joe said:
I would absolutely killto see a four-hour cut of the film. Maybe the DVD will have some extra content...hopefully.
Surely there must be a chance of an extended edition, similar to what was done with the Lord of The Rings films? I'd much prefer that than a deleted scenes section or a marginally longer director's cut. Chuck in a Rorshach statue, 2 discs of extras along with some artcards, put in a snazzy box then watch it fly off the shelves. Shame a two disc edition with some interviews, documentary and an Alan Moore bio is the best I can hope for unless someone realises the fanbase is just as obsessed as LOTRs.


Doesn't change my opinion that a HBO miniseries was the only way to do it properly though.

EDIT: A quick google search has mostly reassured my concerns, although I haven't seen the film yet so any positives may be cancelled out by my hatred of the movie.

From mtv.com

"The director's cut is three hours and 10 minutes and comes out in July," Snyder revealed, calling his original edit "considerably more violent than this ... and sexier" and explaining that if the movie does well, the director's cut will get a theatrical release in Los Angeles and New York.

Following that, of course, will be the "Watchmen" DVD in the fall ? which will include what he dubbed a "Crazy Ultimate Freaky Edition" boasting such time-omitted extras as "Tales of the Black Freighter," more Manhattan moments on Mars and dialogue-heavy scenes with the newsstand-bonding Bernies.


The interview doesn't mention the documentary style 'Under the Hood' included. I don't really like the way Tales of the Black Freighter has ended up being done as an anime, seperated from the main story and released seperately. I'll just end up getting the Crazy Ultimate Freaky Edition (although not if its actually called that) so the seperate releases aren't much of an issue for me.
 

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I only read the novel recently, but i have to admit that i think Terry Gilliam would make a better dircetor for Watchmen than Snyder. I'll probably en up seeing the film anyway though.
 

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fix-the-spade said:
Joe, this question is extremely important: Have they fucked around with the ending in any way shape or form?



Nice review, combine this with the Watchmen Ifx that dropped through my door this morning and I might have to go see it...
yes they changed the ending HOWEVER the ending works, a while ago Zack and David both said they changed the ending as it would have taken too long to explain/not made sense if they did the original ending.

that being said it was a great movie with TONS of shots right from the comic itself, including some that i might need eye bleach for and even the Night Owl's goggles could do nothing

some of the stuff they cut out, they're putting back in or releasing on dvd, ie the comic in a comic, and i've heard they're going to add it back into the movie so it will be like it was in the movie and i'd like to see the live action spots around that part being put back in

good review tho
 

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Copter400 said:
Quick question, though: in one of the trailers we see some kind use his mind to throw a knife at a mirror? Where's that in the movie?
It's at the start when the Comedians being attacked, but he actually throws the Knife, Doesn't use his mind.

Great Review of a Brilliant film, Loved watching it, and thought the sound track to be very in keeping will the tone of the film.