Website Teases New Baldur's Gate ... Something - UPDATED

[Necron_warrior]

...Baldur's gate: Dark alliance 3?

I'm really hoping that's what this is because I loved those games.

Ah, I've lost countless hours with my friends 2-playering it. My childhood in DA & DA2.
I think they still both work actually

There goes my Thursday

 

[80Maxwell08]

Edit: I've said this in other places, but it's amazing how unanimous everyone is in agreement that we don't want Bioware touching Baldur's Gate. It hurts to say that, but it's so damn true. Minor characters like Anomen and Nalia would be cut off and sold as DLC and all the classes would be funneled down into the trio of warrior, thief, and wizard in the current state of Bioware.

There is no middle finger big enough, EA.

And as it has been pointed out to me on the previous page, EA and Bioware CAN'T touch it because Baldur's Gate and the rights (which I should have known...foolish) are part of Forgotten Realms and Hasbro.

So in a fit of irony, Hasbro has done the world a service for once by cock-blocking EA.

Even in the absence of that point, I still agree with your sentiment.
If EA had the rights (no matter which subsidiary they assigned to the project) it would inevitably boil down to the same shit as usual: Dumb down the original archetype to whatever they think is popular, make some console the primary platform and base ALL of the gameplay design around that market archetype (cue the mob of assholes bearing torches and chanting "PC Elitist"...).

Then after announcement, but before launch, EA will pretend to listen to and then ignore the cries of the fans of the original series. Launch game, stain franchise, repeat until that developer+franchise is no longer of any value to them, close down developer.

And honestly, that's the EA-cycle. They've been doing that to developers and their franchises/names for over a decade now.

Oh thank you for pointing it out this time. I've been around for 2 pages correcting every single person who read the article since then it was misinforming people. Even now people still don't realize that Bioware doesn't have the rights and neither do EA. I think I might have to make a topic on the forums to people telling them that but I doubt that has any discussion value in it.

 

[Karlo]

kotaku has a teaser trailer up?
http://kotaku.com/5889442/this-baldurs-gate-teaser-sure-takes-its-time-to-tell-us-not-much

 

[Scars Unseen]

"We're not related to the Steam complete edition, I can tell you that much. Other than that, we're hoping to announce something soon."

Hold on.. Did he just confirm a Steam release?

They are obviously making a mobile port to Android/iOS/WP7

The modding community already did this. Look up GemRB for details.

 

[Scars Unseen]

Edit: I've said this in other places, but it's amazing how unanimous everyone is in agreement that we don't want Bioware touching Baldur's Gate. It hurts to say that, but it's so damn true. Minor characters like Anomen and Nalia would be cut off and sold as DLC and all the classes would be funneled down into the trio of warrior, thief, and wizard in the current state of Bioware.

There is no middle finger big enough, EA.

And as it has been pointed out to me on the previous page, EA and Bioware CAN'T touch it because Baldur's Gate and the rights (which I should have known...foolish) are part of Forgotten Realms and Hasbro.

So in a fit of irony, Hasbro has done the world a service for once by cock-blocking EA.

Even in the absence of that point, I still agree with your sentiment.
If EA had the rights (no matter which subsidiary they assigned to the project) it would inevitably boil down to the same shit as usual: Dumb down the original archetype to whatever they think is popular, make some console the primary platform and base ALL of the gameplay design around that market archetype (cue the mob of assholes bearing torches and chanting "PC Elitist"...).

Then after announcement, but before launch, EA will pretend to listen to and then ignore the cries of the fans of the original series. Launch game, stain franchise, repeat until that developer+franchise is no longer of any value to them, close down developer.

And honestly, that's the EA-cycle. They've been doing that to developers and their franchises/names for over a decade now.

Oh thank you for pointing it out this time. I've been around for 2 pages correcting every single person who read the article since then it was misinforming people. Even now people still don't realize that Bioware doesn't have the rights and neither do EA. I think I might have to make a topic on the forums to people telling them that but I doubt that has any discussion value in it.

I think it's worth noting that Bioware/EA can't touch Baldur's Gate... unless WotC says they can. In this particular case it appears that we've dodged that bullet, so yay us, I suppose. But still, pointing out that Bioware doesn't own Baldur's Gate is only a partial truth, completed by the phrase, "and neither does anyone else that makes video games,"

Here's hoping that WotC learns from past mistakes and doesn't grant an exclusive long term license to any one company this time.

 

[SinisterChrisP]

Anyone know if this trailer is real? Recently uploaded by an account called 'beamdogger', looks pretty genuine... http://youtu.be/wpPU-MtBqrA

 

[Scars Unseen]

If it is a sequel they better not use 4.0e rules for their stats! DOWN WITH 4-OH!

I hadn't even considered that side of things before you mentioned it...

Baldur's Gate with 4th Ed rules...

...

*shudder*

It ... it ... it's just too horrible to imagine.

That possibility is lodged in my brain now. You're a bad person.

It had to be said! D:

Well, there is that. But even by (rightly) opposing 4th Ed, one must bring up 4th Ed.

[sub]And someone from Bioware could be listening...[/sub]

If so then this is our chance to stop them!

HEY BIOWARE! USE PATHFINDER OR 3.5 RULES! KTHANX!

Given that anything other than an HD remake would take(hopefully) a couple of years, I wouldn't be incredibly surprised if they end up using the upcoming 5th Edition rules(although those are still being hammered out, it seems). Then again, I would not be totally against a 4E game... if nothing else, 4E's mini-centric nature makes it fairly well suited for video games. I just don't want to play the game at the table.

 

[80Maxwell08]

Anyone know if this trailer is real? Recently uploaded by an account called 'beamdogger', looks pretty genuine... http://youtu.be/wpPU-MtBqrA

I would agree in it looks pretty genuine though if it is I don't know why the company didn't just use beamdog instead of beamdogger since whoever owned beamdog deleted their account. Maybe they heard about that problem that if someone deletes their account and someone else uses that name later the original owner can get on it and start messing stuff up like when someone went on the sesame street channel and uploaded porn onto it. Still I got no real idea but thanks for posting that.

 

[NightHawk21]

Ideally I'd love to see this as BG3 and BG 1 and 2 included as downloadable extras. I only ever played BG dark alliance, but I found that game to be pretty good and if I could find a copy of Dark alliance 2 I'd get it, but I heard 1 and 2 are amazing so I would like to try them.

 

[Scars Unseen]

Ideally I'd love to see this as BG3 and BG 1 and 2 included as downloadable extras. I only ever played BG dark alliance, but I found that game to be pretty good and if I could find a copy of Dark alliance 2 I'd get it, but I heard 1 and 2 are amazing so I would like to try them.

Well here's the thing about a hypothetical BG3... I have no idea what it would do. Baldur's Gate is a complete story. The main character's story is done. The only thing I could maybe see is taking the Throne of Bhaal and expanding it into a full game rather than an expansion, and I'm not sure how well that would be received by the community.

 

[Scars Unseen]

Anyone know if this trailer is real? Recently uploaded by an account called 'beamdogger', looks pretty genuine... http://youtu.be/wpPU-MtBqrA

I would agree in it looks pretty genuine though if it is I don't know why the company didn't just use beamdog instead of beamdogger since whoever owned beamdog deleted their account. Maybe they heard about that problem that if someone deletes their account and someone else uses that name later the original owner can get on it and start messing stuff up like when someone went on the sesame street channel and uploaded porn onto it. Still I got no real idea but thanks for posting that.

It's not official. Trent Oster just posted in there saying that if it had been them, they would have been required to put the official logos in as well. This is just a fan trailer.

 

[80Maxwell08]

Anyone know if this trailer is real? Recently uploaded by an account called 'beamdogger', looks pretty genuine... http://youtu.be/wpPU-MtBqrA

I would agree in it looks pretty genuine though if it is I don't know why the company didn't just use beamdog instead of beamdogger since whoever owned beamdog deleted their account. Maybe they heard about that problem that if someone deletes their account and someone else uses that name later the original owner can get on it and start messing stuff up like when someone went on the sesame street channel and uploaded porn onto it. Still I got no real idea but thanks for posting that.

It's not official. Trent Oster just posted in there saying that if it had been them, they would have been required to put the official logos in as well. This is just a fan trailer.

Ah so that's who that was commenting there. Didn't know who that was so thanks.

 

[Hawk eye1466]

I just checked the site and the message was different. Now it's






and the message at the bottom is



I think they might just be messing around but you never know.

 

[Fappy]

If it is a sequel they better not use 4.0e rules for their stats! DOWN WITH 4-OH!

I hadn't even considered that side of things before you mentioned it...

Baldur's Gate with 4th Ed rules...

...

*shudder*

It ... it ... it's just too horrible to imagine.

That possibility is lodged in my brain now. You're a bad person.

It had to be said! D:

Well, there is that. But even by (rightly) opposing 4th Ed, one must bring up 4th Ed.

[sub]And someone from Bioware could be listening...[/sub]

If so then this is our chance to stop them!

HEY BIOWARE! USE PATHFINDER OR 3.5 RULES! KTHANX!

Given that anything other than an HD remake would take(hopefully) a couple of years, I wouldn't be incredibly surprised if they end up using the upcoming 5th Edition rules(although those are still being hammered out, it seems). Then again, I would not be totally against a 4E game... if nothing else, 4E's mini-centric nature makes it fairly well suited for video games. I just don't want to play the game at the table.

Well, hopefully if they do end up using 4.0 rules it will be hidden in the background spreadsheets. Most video games based off of table top rules really just use foundation stuff anyway. I.E. The concept of feats, skills, ability scores and saving throws.

 

[NovaStalker]

Edit: I've said this in other places, but it's amazing how unanimous everyone is in agreement that we don't want Bioware touching Baldur's Gate for fear that they would ruin it. It hurts to say that, but it's so damn true. Minor characters like Anomen and Nalia would be cut off and sold as DLC and all the classes would be funneled down into the trio of warrior, thief, and wizard in the current state of Bioware.

There is no middle finger big enough, EA.

Is it unanimous? I've been saying for years that Bioware are the worst thing to happen to the RPG genre and every time I get smacked down by waves of rabid fanbois telling me I'm an idiot. Bioware systematically dumb down every instalment they release and encourage mediocrity in a way that is simply repellent and yet people actually tell me they enjoyed Dragon Age 2. It's like I'm an alien speaking another language sometimes.

 

[80Maxwell08]

Edit: I've said this in other places, but it's amazing how unanimous everyone is in agreement that we don't want Bioware touching Baldur's Gate for fear that they would ruin it. It hurts to say that, but it's so damn true. Minor characters like Anomen and Nalia would be cut off and sold as DLC and all the classes would be funneled down into the trio of warrior, thief, and wizard in the current state of Bioware.

There is no middle finger big enough, EA.

Is it unanimous? I've been saying for years that Bioware are the worst thing to happen to the RPG genre and every time I get smacked down by waves of rabid fanbois telling me I'm an idiot. Bioware systematically dumb down every instalment they release and encourage mediocrity in a way that is simply repellent and yet people actually tell me they enjoyed Dragon Age 2. It's like I'm an alien speaking another language sometimes.

Join me fellow brother let us unite to wipe this plague from the face of this planet.

 

[kingcom]

Edit: I've said this in other places, but it's amazing how unanimous everyone is in agreement that we don't want Bioware touching Baldur's Gate for fear that they would ruin it. It hurts to say that, but it's so damn true. Minor characters like Anomen and Nalia would be cut off and sold as DLC and all the classes would be funneled down into the trio of warrior, thief, and wizard in the current state of Bioware.

There is no middle finger big enough, EA.

Is it unanimous? I've been saying for years that Bioware are the worst thing to happen to the RPG genre and every time I get smacked down by waves of rabid fanbois telling me I'm an idiot. Bioware systematically dumb down every instalment they release and encourage mediocrity in a way that is simply repellent and yet people actually tell me they enjoyed Dragon Age 2. It's like I'm an alien speaking another language sometimes.

Join me fellow brother let us unite to wipe this plague from the face of this planet.

Death to the false Emperor and all their servants?

 

[80Maxwell08]

Edit: I've said this in other places, but it's amazing how unanimous everyone is in agreement that we don't want Bioware touching Baldur's Gate for fear that they would ruin it. It hurts to say that, but it's so damn true. Minor characters like Anomen and Nalia would be cut off and sold as DLC and all the classes would be funneled down into the trio of warrior, thief, and wizard in the current state of Bioware.

There is no middle finger big enough, EA.

Is it unanimous? I've been saying for years that Bioware are the worst thing to happen to the RPG genre and every time I get smacked down by waves of rabid fanbois telling me I'm an idiot. Bioware systematically dumb down every instalment they release and encourage mediocrity in a way that is simply repellent and yet people actually tell me they enjoyed Dragon Age 2. It's like I'm an alien speaking another language sometimes.

Join me fellow brother let us unite to wipe this plague from the face of this planet.

Death to the false Emperor and all their servants?

Well technically it could go either way since both the enemies of the Emperor and his servants all want to wipe everything else out in existence so whichever you prefer.

 

[kingcom]

Edit: I've said this in other places, but it's amazing how unanimous everyone is in agreement that we don't want Bioware touching Baldur's Gate for fear that they would ruin it. It hurts to say that, but it's so damn true. Minor characters like Anomen and Nalia would be cut off and sold as DLC and all the classes would be funneled down into the trio of warrior, thief, and wizard in the current state of Bioware.

There is no middle finger big enough, EA.

Is it unanimous? I've been saying for years that Bioware are the worst thing to happen to the RPG genre and every time I get smacked down by waves of rabid fanbois telling me I'm an idiot. Bioware systematically dumb down every instalment they release and encourage mediocrity in a way that is simply repellent and yet people actually tell me they enjoyed Dragon Age 2. It's like I'm an alien speaking another language sometimes.

Join me fellow brother let us unite to wipe this plague from the face of this planet.

Death to the false Emperor and all their servants?

Well technically it could go either way since both the enemies of the Emperor and his servants all want to wipe everything else out in existence so whichever you prefer.

I was more implying the whole 'heresy to talk negatively about bioware' route.

 

[OldRat]

Well now. I just started playing Baldur's Gate 2 again. It's kinda refreshing really, considering I've played the game through 28 times now. Yes, 28. This was one of the absolute pleasures of my teenage years. Baldur's Gate 1's great too, but 2's my game. It's an old friend, something I can always return to. It's refreshing, really, to not remember everything absolutely any more (though I still can recite every narration and piece of voice acting from memory, and actually do so for the nostalgia kicks during cutscenes).

So this might sound weird, but... well, I hope it won't be Baldur's Gate 3. I mean, I can very well agree that it will be a good game, a great game even. I can agree that it could, objectively, be better than the ones before. And yet I know that no matter how good it will be, it can't be the game I'm hoping it would be, what with the nostalgia and all. It's a petty thing, it is, but I can't help but know my old grognardiness will be nagging all the way through. Sad, but that's the way it is.

On a sidenote, if they end up doing BG3, or some other Dungeons & Dragons game, I actually HOPE they use 4e. You might hate it, but most of the hate does stem from it being videogamey and such and such. What I've found is that 4e is a really fun system once you get the hang of it, but there's always this thought that it'd work better in a computer game, what with all the numbers and moving parts you wouldn't need to think about. That does apply to most editions and most of the more gamistic tabletop games anyway, but there you go. 4e in a computer game really wouldn't be a bad thing in my books.