Well Peta Finally Went There...

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DudeistBelieve

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Rodrigo Girao said:
But they ARE right. Pokémon always made me uncomfortable because the concept is very similar to animal blood sports.
Except... The Pokemon are shown to have some very high level on sentience, so it could be argued that this a social construct between trainer and pokemon. The pokemon WANT to fight, is basically what I'm saying.

Case in point? If youre a pokemon trainer and your Charizard doesn't want to fight? It ain't going to fight. And if you try to force it too it may just kill you.
 

DudeistBelieve

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ToastiestZombie said:
You don't have to be so rude about it. Jesus. When do the Pokemon games ever show the Pokemon with blood running down their faces, blood covered bandages and electric prods electrocuting Pokemon? That's what I'm talking about. But I can't be asked to have an argument about this, so I won't be responding to you.

Also, I'm pretty sure Fair Use needs at least a credit to the creators. Unless there's one hidden somewhere, there is no actual indication of a credit to Nintendo. It's fine to criticize the shit out of something, but not even putting credit to the original makers of the assets they're so blatantly copying is a massive dick move.
It doesn't in the U.S., where PETA is based. A parody is considered its own creative work.[footnote]http://www.copyright.gov/fls/fl102.html[/footnote]

Also, all I have to say is the final battle of the first Pokemon movie. The human characters even hint that it's wrong despite it not being substantially different from the majority of tough Pokemon matches.
And then that entire character growth is negated when Mewtwo mind-wipes their memories.
 

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Casual Shinji said:
You do realize PETA picks on Pokemon because it's what's popular, right? [sub][sub]That's a lotta P's![/sub][/sub]

How else are they going to stay current - By actually achieving something?

EDIT: Pikachu looks fucking hyped though! :D
PETA picked a peck of pugilistic Pokemon?
 

Ryan Hughes

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PETA tends to just go for things that are "controversial" because the controversy itself causes what PETA feels is the promotion of its cause. Of course, the fact of the matter remains that this is a Hollywood misconception, and that not all publicity is good publicity.

So, if Nintendo sues PETA, then PETA gets what it wants: a web game that everyone would have forgotten exists is then catapulted into a drawn-out media firestorm, which increases PETA's visibility. The fact that Pokemon happens in a fictitious world means nothing to PETA, simply because PETA wishes to exploit the media though these types of stunts.

What I find fascinating about all of this is that PETA themselves -at their animal shelter- killed 97% of the animals delivered into their care. So, I hardly see how this is not hypocritical. http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/douglas-anthony-cooper/petas-celebs-getting-nake_b_1352462.html
 

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So...Peta is Team Plasma?

But in all seriousness, I'm surprised this is even getting attention. Did we not learn from all of the Mario and Cooking Mama knock-offs they made?
 

Nieroshai

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Rodrigo Girao said:
But they ARE right. Pokémon always made me uncomfortable because the concept is very similar to animal blood sports.
In a manner. There is context. For one, pokemon are for the most part at least as sentient as children. Secondly, they aren't generally caged up, they're digitized. Consider this horrible if you will, it still isn't conscious imprisonment. Thirdly, in context, pokemon generally empathize with their trainers and think of themselves as either pets or boxers. Injured pokemon get medical attention swiftly and thoroughly, from trainers who do choose to battle.
As far as the PETA game, they do touch on the terrible implications of animal fighting, albeit in their usual sadistic "meat is murder" portrayal of all animal-human interaction. Animal fighting is wrong, dangerous, and sadistic. I contend, however, that in-universe, pokemon are not dumb animals but sentient beings and have the power to rebel if they ever felt abused. What human could withstand a flamethrower in the face?
 

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ToastiestZombie said:
You don't have to be so rude about it. Jesus. When do the Pokemon games ever show the Pokemon with blood running down their faces, blood covered bandages and electric prods electrocuting Pokemon? That's what I'm talking about. But I can't be asked to have an argument about this, so I won't be responding to you.

Also, I'm pretty sure Fair Use needs at least a credit to the creators. Unless there's one hidden somewhere, there is no actual indication of a credit to Nintendo. It's fine to criticize the shit out of something, but not even putting credit to the original makers of the assets they're so blatantly copying is a massive dick move.
It doesn't in the U.S., where PETA is based. A parody is considered its own creative work.[footnote]http://www.copyright.gov/fls/fl102.html[/footnote]

Calling for a company to abuse copyright law won't endear kindness among most people who don't work for publishing companies.

Also, all I have to say is the final battle of the first Pokemon movie. The human characters even hint that it's wrong despite it not being substantially different from the majority of tough Pokemon matches.
Generally speaking, pokemon don't fight to the death. In the movie, they were.
 

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I'm sure if we ignore them they'll go away eventually [small]probably[/small]

I hope MovieBob gives them another verbal beating, I loved that episode.
 

hazabaza1

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Man, I love their games. Nothing's topped the Cooking Mama one though.
 

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It's quite a fun little game. :D

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Oh, PETA. Everyone knows Pokemon don't fight to the death. They just faint of exhaustion.
 

Souplex

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So in the next game the villains would be "Team PETA"?
 

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Richard A. Kiernan said:
I can only hope that Nintendo gun PETA down with their lawyer cannons, mostly because it would be funny.
The sole redeeming feature of PETA: they're so far removed from common sense and decency that it's plain funny.
 
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If anyone is interested, I did a Let's play of it earlier today; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9qHPixbwPs&feature=share&list=UUh4fzEeL-aogFo7F0bBMyeQ
 

Robot Number V

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The thing that surprises me is that they didn't do this ages ago. Seriously, how did PETA accuse Mario of animal cruelty before fucking POKEMON?
 

SlaveNumber23

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Wait, do PETA actually do anything to seriously try and stop animal abuse/neglect or do they just prance around being assholes?
 

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This game is fucking amazing. Their depiction of Ash is spot on the money hungry fucker.

My loyal pokemonz team of Pikachu, FuckPETA, Cocksplash and WHOEATSPKMN performed admirably.
 

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Took them long enough. Seriously. They made their first Mario, uh, parody quite a while ago. Pokémon seems like the most obvious target. At this point I can't even care about PETA. It's become one of the many very vocal groups that make people who are actually trying to solve a problem look crazy by association.

In other news White 2 is good.
 

KingOfGreyfell

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They really seem to get a kick out of attacking our childhood. I'd say something to the effect of 'Don't feed the troll' but that really doesn't seem to apply as PETA and WBC appear to be a new breed of troll entirely; one that gains sustenance from the sun or something.