I did laugh, but these guys don't do that- unless the cemetary is privately owned, that is. In which case your argument bests mine, and I admit defeat.metal mustache said:I know right? i can't even imagine what life in my neighbourhood would be like if i weren't allowed walk into old mrs hankins garage and yell at her to drop the fuck dead.joshuaayt said:I don't know... I mean, I'm not really sure being a total dickhead deserves a beating- I usually only support vigilantism for stuff like murder and whatnot. Aren't these people legally allowed to protest? Isn't freedom of speech a Big Thing in America? If the people show intolerance for what some guy is saying, how can you expect the government to act differently?
I don't agree that these people should be allowed to protest in such a manner, but I do fear the implications that stopping them would bring to light.
(risky post, i hope you laughed)
CM156 said:They view ANYTHING said against them as persecution against them.Hero in a half shell said:Unfortunately the Church will just view it as persecution against them.
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HOW DARE YOU INSULT MY CHURCH!
Okay just kidding
Agayek said:Protest falls under the protection of the first amendment, which is incidentally also passed down to the States through incorporation of the Bill of Rights (basically, the Supreme Court said the Bill of Rights must also (mostly) apply to the States because of the 14th Amendment).Wicky_42 said:One question, as I'm not up to scratch with all the US's laws, but don't you guys have the right to peaceful protest? I mean, I understand free speech is a Federal thing, but in the UK I believe we have the right to peaceful protest as a separate thing, and that the police (should) legally support and protect said protests (again, in theory). Is there anything equivalent in the States, because if so then there could well be alternative potential legal infringements other than the much talked about 1st Amendment.
So yes, the WBC does have the right to protest, and the police are obligated to protect the protest. Clearly, that's not how it works in practice though.
Yeah, cheers guysFleischer said:Correct. The First Amendment of the US Constitution provides:Wicky_42 said:One question, as I'm not up to scratch with all the US's laws, but don't you guys have the right to peaceful protest? I mean, I understand free speech is a Federal thing, but in the UK I believe we have the right to peaceful protest as a separate thing, and that the police (should) legally support and protect said protests (again, in theory). Is there anything equivalent in the States, because if so then there could well be alternative potential legal infringements other than the much talked about 1st Amendment.Agayek said:PS - As others have said, the First Amendment (and all of the Constitution/Bill of Rights) only limits what the federal government can do. It does not apply to the state, city or private citizens.
The Fourteenth Amendment provides this protection:Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Some of the these Amendments have been found to be applicable to States, as well as the Federal government. The case of Gitlow v. New York (1925) gave the decision that States are also required to protect freedom of speech.Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
Make a bit more sense?
Exactly. This result is a bad thing, guys.Fleischer said:*sigh* This is exactly what the WBC wants. I expect to hear about a major law suit being lodged against the town of Rankin. Violating the freedom of speech of anyone - even those with deplorable messages - is unconstitutional.
Also highly worth observing.Because Christianity is all about vigilantism, not mercy.