I am pretty excited even if I am a heretic and lover of Angron. World Eaters FTW. Yet I would have been happier to see the Black Templars or Space Wolves..oh well still looks awesome as hell.
WH40k: Space Marine Cleansing Console Heretics
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You have to have IG. You're on an imperial world, so there's bound to be loads of them. As long as they don't make them necessary for the mission, just have them dying under hails of gunfire beside you, it'll be fine.scotth266 said:
And the Ultramarines? When I played, they were referred to by my group as the Vanilla-marines. Fluff wise, they were the biggest chapter before a cap was put on how big chapters could get (1000, not counting mechanics and mainainance crews), and when they were split they spawned about 26 new chapters, and that was after a big ass war that butchered half the Imperium.
The Ultramarines are considered the "Vanilla" Marines because they have a strict adherence to the Codex Astartes (which their primarch, Roboute Guilliman, wrote). They are a highly disciplined martial force with no unique attributes but also no unique weaknesses. They are modeled off of the Roman Legions.Meado said:
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Ultramarines
Yea, escorting a squadron of tanks would be bad, right?scotth266 said:
For what it's worth, bonafide IG regiments are very good at taking care of themselves, outside of running into Necrons, Eldar or traitor legions.
If you did have to work with them, you would likely be working with a full force, with Russes, Basilisks and Valkyries backing you up. I fail to see how that would not be awesome.
As for that, I lol at these people who prefer the Starcraft knockoffs to their archetypes.
Space Marines do not "escourt" except in rare cases like the the Armageddon war or the Cadian Gate or a Black Crusade. Space Marines are rapid response assault troops, they show up and kill people. Fortification, Guarding, and other enforcement are usually left to the Guard/PDF.
Ahem. If many of you had bothered to read the corresponding two-page interview on Eurogamer concerning SPACE MARINE, you would have discovered that the Ultramarines are currently being used as a placeholder chapter.
That, and I don't see the 40,000 as excessively over the top, unlike Warhammer, which had managed to integrate almost every fantasy and real-world stereotype imaginable into a world populated by Chaos; it turned out awesome, but, back to my point that, thirty-eight thousand years from now, it seems a little crazy to think that humans and their crazy lack of a specified breeding period have populated the majority of the known galaxy, and in the style of us nowadays STILL only a few hundred years out of the Dark Ages, having experienced a time spanning thousands of years where practicality and common sense died as known civilization became isolated and exposed to a universe host to wholesomely unfathomable alien raiders and the rise of a genetic sub-species with powers they have no scientific capacity to explain? It's like the aftermath of a macrocosm of the European medieval period, something we can certainly relate to, and with a single government responsible for the lives of literally tens if not hundreds of TRILLIONS of people, fighting off endless legions of their own dark mirror and everything else in the galaxy that wishes to put a weapon fitting a scenario that is millenia after our time to their heads, throws away whole planets in the pursuit of survival? It might seem a tad hard to understand, considering the time frame we're speaking of is almost three to four times the span of ALL human civilization, and the scale unimaginably big, but I think it's pretty damn realistic, and I'll laugh in your face when we finally make first contact with the Eldar and engage in the first Alien Wars as we climb towards the technological Singularity, only to be thwarted by the sheer scope of how far we've gone.
That, and this game seems to have no idea where it's going, but it looks pretty awesome right now. Nice to see that Orbital Bombardments finally look realistically big, considering you're getting hit by a lance of directed energy from a ship five miles long; and don't think that's too big, especially when you have the resources of hundreds of systems at your disposal.
Edit: AND PLEASE NO MORE OF THOSE GOD AWFUL BLOOD RAVEN "Speesh Mareens"
That, and I don't see the 40,000 as excessively over the top, unlike Warhammer, which had managed to integrate almost every fantasy and real-world stereotype imaginable into a world populated by Chaos; it turned out awesome, but, back to my point that, thirty-eight thousand years from now, it seems a little crazy to think that humans and their crazy lack of a specified breeding period have populated the majority of the known galaxy, and in the style of us nowadays STILL only a few hundred years out of the Dark Ages, having experienced a time spanning thousands of years where practicality and common sense died as known civilization became isolated and exposed to a universe host to wholesomely unfathomable alien raiders and the rise of a genetic sub-species with powers they have no scientific capacity to explain? It's like the aftermath of a macrocosm of the European medieval period, something we can certainly relate to, and with a single government responsible for the lives of literally tens if not hundreds of TRILLIONS of people, fighting off endless legions of their own dark mirror and everything else in the galaxy that wishes to put a weapon fitting a scenario that is millenia after our time to their heads, throws away whole planets in the pursuit of survival? It might seem a tad hard to understand, considering the time frame we're speaking of is almost three to four times the span of ALL human civilization, and the scale unimaginably big, but I think it's pretty damn realistic, and I'll laugh in your face when we finally make first contact with the Eldar and engage in the first Alien Wars as we climb towards the technological Singularity, only to be thwarted by the sheer scope of how far we've gone.
That, and this game seems to have no idea where it's going, but it looks pretty awesome right now. Nice to see that Orbital Bombardments finally look realistically big, considering you're getting hit by a lance of directed energy from a ship five miles long; and don't think that's too big, especially when you have the resources of hundreds of systems at your disposal.
Edit: AND PLEASE NO MORE OF THOSE GOD AWFUL BLOOD RAVEN "Speesh Mareens"
Well, it will probably be a success. I agree with the author though. The ultra-manly muppets are the most boring and unthinking military force to exist in fiction.
Caliostro has it, and Jarico is on to something. Play the Dalek today!
Caliostro has it, and Jarico is on to something. Play the Dalek today!
They are more Extreame because there bank accounts take a more extream hit,PedroSteckecilo said:
and they actually use quaite a few colours for warhammer so it might be very good, ill be giving it a shot
I dont see why people are so upset with the Ultra Marines... name one game with them in?
Sure GW have them as a favorite but that is only known by us 40k heads.
And in reply to an earlier post the Emperor is now considered to be a god. His power flows through his soldiers and gird them against the ruinous powers. Think Grey Hunters. In the Horus Heresy he was not a god but an actual Emperor. But that changed once the Gods of Chaos were discovered and the Emperor entered his semi-dead state.
Ultramarines are the largest Adeptus Astartes Chapter, so shouldn't they get a little love? Dont get me wrong I love some of the original Chaptersmore, Imperial Fists, Space Wolves etc.
Wish this was on the PC as they could add a lot more to it, but hey we cant get everything. Maybe one day they will by my idea for a 40k MMORPFPSG... this IP deserves it.
Sure GW have them as a favorite but that is only known by us 40k heads.
And in reply to an earlier post the Emperor is now considered to be a god. His power flows through his soldiers and gird them against the ruinous powers. Think Grey Hunters. In the Horus Heresy he was not a god but an actual Emperor. But that changed once the Gods of Chaos were discovered and the Emperor entered his semi-dead state.
Ultramarines are the largest Adeptus Astartes Chapter, so shouldn't they get a little love? Dont get me wrong I love some of the original Chaptersmore, Imperial Fists, Space Wolves etc.
Wish this was on the PC as they could add a lot more to it, but hey we cant get everything. Maybe one day they will by my idea for a 40k MMORPFPSG... this IP deserves it.
You obviously never played Soulstorm. That, and the only game that hasn't featured Blood Ravens yet is Dawn of War: Winter Assault. I'm just TIRED of them, especially when there are a thousand other already fleshed out or ripe for the fleshing Chapters out there.scotth266 said:
Thats because the Blood Ravens were specifically created for the games so they wouldn't disrupt 40k continuity.Sigenrecht said:
They've already used Ultramarines, and I mean, they have to be the most commonly known chapter, and I didn't see the universe collapse in a self-devouring vortex of discontinuity. Besides, the Blood Ravens have existed longer than the games have, I believe.TsunamiWombat said:
Yeah Black Templars rule man. That is a good point though. Ultramarines are the more generic Space Marine chapter, whereas the Black Templars are as you said, completely insane.Ollie596 said:
While i'm tempted to rush in and defend 40K from the hate, I know that It can be stopped with a single fact: What you hate, we love, and you're 100% correct. We just get to have fun with it, you poor bastards.
My second point is to say that the Ultramarines are nothing but liquid sex and awesome. Look at that picture, look at it. That's god damn Marneus Augustus Calgar, the living embodiment of kicking ass and recording your title on an honor roll of the slain. One day, he was out killing stuff, and realized it was really hard to punch tanks to death with his hands full of assault weaponry. So he decided to turn his fists into assault weaponry, so he could punch you while shooting you and perhaps even hold yet more assault weaponry with his now free hands.
Ultramarines: Popular for a reason. And have the word Ultra in their name. Which is awesome.
For The Emperor.
Note: Still, would have preffered space wolves or Black Templars, hell, i'd love to play as Alpha Legion (I always knew they were good guys)
My avatar should tell you which side of the line i come down on in Fanboyism, but i can keep my mouth shut and listen to legitimate criticism, so i will agree alot of the story of 40k is fucking retarded..most of it being with the inherantly unlikeable imperium.
An Rpg where you play an Elday warlock would be ace though...manipulating fate allows you to fight with pretty much whoever your farseer tells you will be advatgeous to your dying race.... Also PLEASE PLEASE look up and have a glance through (which will probably turn into a 16hour study of) something called the 40k fluff bible - Bits of the story may be silly but the depth, complexity and sheer imaginative scale of the universe is amazing. So many games have 'borrowed' from games workshop vision of the universe and they do so for a reason.
An Rpg where you play an Elday warlock would be ace though...manipulating fate allows you to fight with pretty much whoever your farseer tells you will be advatgeous to your dying race.... Also PLEASE PLEASE look up and have a glance through (which will probably turn into a 16hour study of) something called the 40k fluff bible - Bits of the story may be silly but the depth, complexity and sheer imaginative scale of the universe is amazing. So many games have 'borrowed' from games workshop vision of the universe and they do so for a reason.
I wouldn't be surprised if someone beat me to it, but you forgot to mention that they both have roid-monkeys as game characters.CantFaketheFunk said: