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I felt bad about cheesing Taurus Demon so I'll give Capra a few honest tries. I mean I did too with Taurus until I got sick of not being able to bank the souls I kept losing and retrieving.

Biggest hurdle right now is how inconveniently placed the bonfire is. It's a long walk from Firelink, which I'm sensing is the closest spawn point.

At least I beat Havel without much problem.
Did you miss the bonfire about halfway into the Undead Burg? It's right after the bridge where the Hellkite Drake swoops in and stands on the bridge before flying off again. You cross that bridge, go up the stars to the left, and there's a bonfire in a little nook to your left!
 

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Did you miss the bonfire about halfway into the Undead Burg? It's right after the bridge where the Hellkite Drake swoops in and stands on the bridge before flying off again. You cross that bridge, go up the stars to the left, and there's a bonfire in a little nook to your left!
So I lit the bonfire past the dragon, the one across the bridge opposite sun bro.

If I cross the bridge towards sun bro and, at the rampart, make a left downstairs (through the door unlocked with Basement Key), that takes me to dog and ninja alley, which is an impossible dash towards the boss room.

If I go to Capra from Firelink it's mooks, sewer tunnel, female merchant, two ninjas and two dogs but they're funneled by stairs.

Am I missing a bonfire?
 
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So I lit the bonfire past the dragon, the one across the bridge opposite sun bro.

If I cross the bridge towards sun bro and, at the rampart, make a left downstairs (through the door unlocked with Basement Key), that takes me to dog and ninja alley, which is an impossible dash towards the boss room.

If I go to Capra from Firelink it's mooks, sewer tunnel, female merchant, two ninjas and two dogs but they're funneled by stairs.

Am I missing a bonfire?
It doesn't sound like you missed it, but I added a video below, timestamped right at the bonfire I'm talking about. Once you beat Taurus Demon, and cross the bridge that the Drake is blowing fire onto, about halfway to your right is a stairway down, take those stairs and instead of turning right to go under the Drake, go straight ahead to your left where there is a ladder you can drop down to the bonfire in the video. You shouldn't have to running all the way from Firelink if you've beaten Taurus Demon


EDIT: his video shows the shortcut to that same Bonfire.

 
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Samurai Showdown II. Still a classic, and still the best in the franchise of the classic games. Everything about it is perfect. Of the classic games: the best roster, the best presentation, and the best gameplay.
 

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I felt bad about cheesing Taurus Demon so I'll give Capra a few honest tries. I mean I did too with Taurus until I got sick of not being able to bank the souls I kept losing and retrieving.
Drop attacks on Taurus Demon aren't even cheese. It's definitely a strategy that the developers intended, especially since they draw your attention with an archer shooting at you before the fight starts.
 

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Drop attacks on Taurus Demon aren't even cheese. It's definitely a strategy that the developers intended, especially since they draw your attention with an archer shooting at you before the fight starts.
Alright, so I feel better about it then.
So far haven't found anything as egregious as shooting at the boss from outside the fog gate, which was a thing you could do to several bosses in Demon's Souls.
 

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Regarding 'cheesing' fights: The intent of the developers, to the best of my understanding after having played five of the six Souls games, is 'whatever works'. At the end of the day, the only thing that matters is that you're alive and the boss is dead. How you get to that point doesn't matter. So whether you fight enemies head-on with perfect dodges, parries and charged R2 knockdowns, or trick their AI into getting stuck running in place while you wail on them with a bow (especially since it's not guaranteed you can make that happen first try every time), or find a wacky setup of stacking buffs that lets you wipe the boss's whole health bar in one hit, or summon Let Me Solo Her -

None of those are the 'wrong' way to do it. The only 'wrong' way is to die. If you lived, that was right. So go ahead and give that Capra Demon the business.

Or a shorter version: Nothing in this game 'fights fair'. Don't feel bad about not fighting fair yourself.
 

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Or a shorter version: Nothing in this game 'fights fair'. Don't feel bad about not fighting fair yourself.
Exactly, I don't fight fair in Streets of Rage, Ninja Gaiden, nor Devil May Cry, so I expect the same for these type of games too.

South America has been completed in Serious Sam 2nd Encounter. Now, it is time for Ziggarat.
 
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Regarding 'cheesing' fights: The intent of the developers, to the best of my understanding after having played five of the six Souls games, is 'whatever works'. At the end of the day, the only thing that matters is that you're alive and the boss is dead. How you get to that point doesn't matter. So whether you fight enemies head-on with perfect dodges, parries and charged R2 knockdowns, or trick their AI into getting stuck running in place while you wail on them with a bow (especially since it's not guaranteed you can make that happen first try every time), or find a wacky setup of stacking buffs that lets you wipe the boss's whole health bar in one hit, or summon Let Me Solo Her -

None of those are the 'wrong' way to do it. The only 'wrong' way is to die. If you lived, that was right. So go ahead and give that Capra Demon the business.

Or a shorter version: Nothing in this game 'fights fair'. Don't feel bad about not fighting fair yourself.
Standing outside the fog door and throwing firebombs over the wall at an extremely specific angle is most certainly the 'wrong way' to do it. You aren't even playing the game at that point.
 

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Standing outside the fog door and throwing firebombs over the wall at an extremely specific angle is most certainly the 'wrong way' to do it. You aren't even playing the game at that point.
It's their copy of the game, they can do whatever they want. I didn't even know that was possible and I find it hilarious.
 
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Regarding 'cheesing' fights: The intent of the developers, to the best of my understanding after having played five of the six Souls games, is 'whatever works'. At the end of the day, the only thing that matters is that you're alive and the boss is dead. How you get to that point doesn't matter. So whether you fight enemies head-on with perfect dodges, parries and charged R2 knockdowns, or trick their AI into getting stuck running in place while you wail on them with a bow (especially since it's not guaranteed you can make that happen first try every time), or find a wacky setup of stacking buffs that lets you wipe the boss's whole health bar in one hit, or summon Let Me Solo Her -

None of those are the 'wrong' way to do it. The only 'wrong' way is to die. If you lived, that was right. So go ahead and give that Capra Demon the business.

Or a shorter version: Nothing in this game 'fights fair'. Don't feel bad about not fighting fair yourself.

Exactly what I was saying. Maybe in more cowardly and vindictive words, but the sentiment reigns true. Souls games pride themselves on getting over on you; it's rare you find yourself in a position to get over of them; TAKE those opportunities. Capra Demon is a bullshit fight, and if anyone can spare themselves the "fingers crossed RNG" that the dogs don't pinch you allowing Capra to have his way, take it. The fight isn't pivotal; it's a bump in the road to more substantive progress. I hate to hear new players getting frustrated over such an insubstantial-yet-gatekeeping boss fight; shrug off Capra Demon, and get to the meat and potatoes beyond him.
 
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Whatever, just wash your hands.
Made the mistake of watching a few of the Civvie 11 Blood vids so now I'm playing through Blood again despite needing to beat Tempest Rising, Granblue Fantasy Relink and Castlevania Dominus collection.
 

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Standing outside the fog door and throwing firebombs over the wall at an extremely specific angle is most certainly the 'wrong way' to do it. You aren't even playing the game at that point.
Okay, but you are playing the game. You're not hacking the code or hacking the fundamental programing of the game. Point in case: how many times have you (or anyone) gained souls when an enemy died off-screen not by your hand? The game spawns Capra Demon in a spot of vulnerability that can be exploited. Not the players fault, but the developers' choice. The same developers that fill their games with boobytraps and surprise gank attacks. There may be a point of pride in those who choose to beat their heads against an overtly unfair wall to say they did it the "right way," but there's an equally vocal base who say the efort to luck out during a side-boss fight isn't worth the frustrations when a perfectly acceptable exploit is at the ready which, by the way cost resources and exact timing and measuring... which the game rewards every elsewhere.
 
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Capra Demon's is the biggest bullshit fight in the game. Probably could catch hell for this, but look up the cheese strategy; it's only fair since you're in for enough challenges ahead that a 3-on-1 in a closet should be cheesed.
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I got the Zweihander before I realized the graveyard path led to the harder area before Undead Burg but I'm too fond of shields to use it.

I'll probably go for the Faith sword eventually since I need 25 Faith to join the sun bro covenant anyway.

Fond of shields you say? I’ll give my 2 cents worth of advice knowing @Xprimentyl will handle the rest.

Save the big good boi doggie soul to use on any will-be inferior +10 shield. Be forewarned though; it is so good defensively, that you might wind up first-timing arguably the hardest boss in the dlc (not that boss mind you but yeah; him too what the hell). You don’t even have to upgrade the fucking thing.
 
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Standing outside the fog door and throwing firebombs over the wall at an extremely specific angle is most certainly the 'wrong way' to do it. You aren't even playing the game at that point.
Speaking as someone who did beat Capra Demon legit: Considering the 'extremely specific angle' part of it, I'm not convinced that that method is 'not even playing the game'. And as @Xprimentyl pointed out, for this fight especially you are missing out on nothing to do it that way.
 
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Standing outside the fog door and throwing firebombs over the wall at an extremely specific angle is most certainly the 'wrong way' to do it. You aren't even playing the game at that point.
Am I "not playing" a first-person shooter if I use a sniper rifle and eliminate enemies before they can shoot back?
 

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Doing the epilogue stuff in GoW Ragnarok. I kinda wish they locked away some of the optional side content cause by the time I beat the final boss I had already done all the Surtr challenges and beaten 11 of the 12 berserkers and all my gear was maxed out at power level 9 but the enemies went only as high as 6 so I kinda curbstomped em without learning their patterns. At least the berserker king was a hard fight (playing on second hardest difficulty) which took me a couple hours to clear.


All in all it's been very satisfying and also a long ass experience too, I'm doing a completionist run and am around 80+ hours, still not done.


Also there's that Valhalla thing which I have no idea what it is yet, I figure I'll look into it after I clear all the remaining side content.
 

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In the end Capra Demon took two tries, so all that worry about the walk of shame was for naught.
Both very comically anticlimactic.

Take 1:


Take 2:


Plunge attack saves the day once more. Apparently the Black Knight Sword also has a 20% buff against the thing.
For the record, on the subject of cheese, I support using or exploiting any game's logic against it insofar as that brings you joy.