What are your thoughts on glue traps?

[SIXVI06-M]

They make humane traps where it doesn't actually kill the mouse, you just let him go outside.

If it's actually vermin, you might want to kill it - we don't want say... rats carrying disease and such to just 'go outside'.

But asides from that - in Australia, it's more of a native-mouse problem than a RAT problem, so humane traps are possibly more welcome.

 

[SIXVI06-M]

Yeah, glue traps sound pretty inhumane. Not that nature handles it any prettier. Have you ever seen a cat kill a mouse?

I remember my cat "playing" with a mouse once. She carried it to our drive, and then let it loose. It ran around in circles, knowing it cuoldn't get away from the cat, so it tried to hide between her legs. It should soon learn that that didn't work, since my cat decided to pound it with its paw, breaking both its hind legs. After that, the mouse was crawling around desperately with only its front legs (it reached an impressive speed, by the way). After tossing it around for a while, my cat flipped the mouse over on its back, and cut open its stomach. I didn't even know she had sharp enough claws to do that. That's the only time I've ever seen a living animal be disected. Quite fascinating to see its organs pumping. Then she ate it.

Your cat should have learnt a death-bite from its mother when it was a kitten... -_-

Gaaaaah, your pet is sadistic D:

 

[Jonluw]

Yeah, glue traps sound pretty inhumane. Not that nature handles it any prettier. Have you ever seen a cat kill a mouse?

I remember my cat "playing" with a mouse once. She carried it to our drive, and then let it loose. It ran around in circles, knowing it cuoldn't get away from the cat, so it tried to hide between her legs. It should soon learn that that didn't work, since my cat decided to pound it with its paw, breaking both its hind legs. After that, the mouse was crawling around desperately with only its front legs (it reached an impressive speed, by the way). After tossing it around for a while, my cat flipped the mouse over on its back, and cut open its stomach. I didn't even know she had sharp enough claws to do that. That's the only time I've ever seen a living animal be disected. Quite fascinating to see its organs pumping. Then she ate it.

Your cat should have learnt a death-bite from its mother when it was a kitten... -_-

Gaaaaah, your pet is sadistic D:

Oh, I'm feeling fairly certain she knew how to kill things. She just didn't want to.

 

[Fargus]

If it's actually vermin, you might want to kill it - we don't want say... rats carrying disease and such to just 'go outside'.

Disease is everywhere, every animal carries it. If someone chooses not to kill, then they shouldn't be shunned for doing so. Either killing it or releasing it really won't make a bit of difference, it's just a band-aid fix really and doesn't address the issue at its core (that is, making your place as unattractive to them as possible, making sure your garbage is tightly closed off, etc).

 

[Thaluikhain]

Well, cats aren't just being cruel with injured mice and so on, they are using them as target practice. In the wild, that sort of thing might mean the difference between starving or not one day.

 

[SIXVI06-M]

Yeah, I don't approve of glue traps, unless nothing else is working.

They make humane traps where it doesn't actually kill the mouse, you just let him go outside.

You know I have tried three models of those when I had mice. Damn mice either didn't go in them, or found ways to eat the bait and get out. Maybe I just had smart mice...

I switched to more traditional snack traps and the mousies started dying.

The 2nd time I had mouse issues a few years ago was coincidentally when I got a new kitten. About the same time the kitty turned 3 or 4 months old the mouse problem just disappeared on its own. Good kitty...crunch crunch crunch.

As much as I love kittens, I don't think I could do that. I'm kind of a pansy when it comes to killing things, even bugs and spiders. I only had one mouse loose in my house. He ran and tried to hide in a shoe that was sitting nearby, so I just took it outside, and let him continue to live his life.

Seriously, I wouldn't even be able to eat meat if it weren't for the fact that honey mustard chicken is the greatest thing ever.

Funny you mention that... it reminded me of a time a mouse sent my mum screaming for me and my brother's help to catch it because it ran into her room and it just wouldn't get out, no matter how much we tried to herd it to the door... Our cat brought it in to play with - she usually has no intention of eating...

Anyway... we spent forever trying to catch it so we could do something nice like set it free in the park or something... but the mouse just had to dart into the most difficult places. So once it got behind a large pane of glass wedged between the wall and the bed... me and my brother sort of had words about taking a life and decided we didn't have much of a choice.

We counted to three, and pushed hard and fast against the bed so we can put an end to it as quickly as possible.

 

[SIXVI06-M]

If it's actually vermin, you might want to kill it - we don't want say... rats carrying disease and such to just 'go outside'.

Disease is everywhere, every animal carries it. If someone chooses not to kill, then they shouldn't be shunned for doing so. Either killing it or releasing it really won't make a bit of difference, it's just a band-aid fix really and doesn't address the issue at its core (that is, making your place as unattractive to them as possible, making sure your garbage is tightly closed off, etc).

A little harder to avoid if you live in high-density urban sprawls and megacities.

I can't say it's a choice for everyone; and some places are just known for disease-ridden vermin.
I'm not shunning anyone, I'm just saying it's not always a choice.

 

[Verlander]

Glue traps are restricted in certain places because of this.

Spoiler: more of PETA's bizarre fetish for half naked women

Liking half naked women in a bizarre fetish now? Man times are changing

Humane traps all the way, they do work. You can even get humane pest control people in and everything. Vermin don't spread diseases in the west that can't be cured, so there's no excuse to kill them

 

[DuctTapeJedi]

Spoiler

Yeah, I don't approve of glue traps, unless nothing else is working.

They make humane traps where it doesn't actually kill the mouse, you just let him go outside.

You know I have tried three models of those when I had mice. Damn mice either didn't go in them, or found ways to eat the bait and get out. Maybe I just had smart mice...

I switched to more traditional snack traps and the mousies started dying.

The 2nd time I had mouse issues a few years ago was coincidentally when I got a new kitten. About the same time the kitty turned 3 or 4 months old the mouse problem just disappeared on its own. Good kitty...crunch crunch crunch.

As much as I love kittens, I don't think I could do that. I'm kind of a pansy when it comes to killing things, even bugs and spiders. I only had one mouse loose in my house. He ran and tried to hide in a shoe that was sitting nearby, so I just took it outside, and let him continue to live his life.

Seriously, I wouldn't even be able to eat meat if it weren't for the fact that honey mustard chicken is the greatest thing ever.

Funny you mention that... it reminded me of a time a mouse sent my mum screaming for me and my brother's help to catch it because it ran into her room and it just wouldn't get out, no matter how much we tried to herd it to the door... Our cat brought it in to play with - she usually has no intention of eating...

Anyway... we spent forever trying to catch it so we could do something nice like set it free in the park or something... but the mouse just had to dart into the most difficult places. So once it got behind a large pane of glass wedged between the wall and the bed... me and my brother sort of had words about taking a life and decided we didn't have much of a choice.

We counted to three, and pushed hard and fast against the bed so we can put an end to it as quickly as possible.

Wow, that is grisly...

That's also a plus of trapping the thing and letting it go outside, you don't have any mess to clean up.

 

[SIXVI06-M]

Spoiler

Yeah, I don't approve of glue traps, unless nothing else is working.

They make humane traps where it doesn't actually kill the mouse, you just let him go outside.

You know I have tried three models of those when I had mice. Damn mice either didn't go in them, or found ways to eat the bait and get out. Maybe I just had smart mice...

I switched to more traditional snack traps and the mousies started dying.

The 2nd time I had mouse issues a few years ago was coincidentally when I got a new kitten. About the same time the kitty turned 3 or 4 months old the mouse problem just disappeared on its own. Good kitty...crunch crunch crunch.

As much as I love kittens, I don't think I could do that. I'm kind of a pansy when it comes to killing things, even bugs and spiders. I only had one mouse loose in my house. He ran and tried to hide in a shoe that was sitting nearby, so I just took it outside, and let him continue to live his life.

Seriously, I wouldn't even be able to eat meat if it weren't for the fact that honey mustard chicken is the greatest thing ever.

Funny you mention that... it reminded me of a time a mouse sent my mum screaming for me and my brother's help to catch it because it ran into her room and it just wouldn't get out, no matter how much we tried to herd it to the door... Our cat brought it in to play with - she usually has no intention of eating...

Anyway... we spent forever trying to catch it so we could do something nice like set it free in the park or something... but the mouse just had to dart into the most difficult places. So once it got behind a large pane of glass wedged between the wall and the bed... me and my brother sort of had words about taking a life and decided we didn't have much of a choice.

We counted to three, and pushed hard and fast against the bed so we can put an end to it as quickly as possible.

Wow, that is grisly...

That's also a plus of trapping the thing and letting it go outside, you don't have any mess to clean up.

Lol, we didn't have to push that hard - it was just a mouse, hard enough to know it's dead . No mess really... it was pretty well contained XD

 

[Thaluikhain]

Liking half naked women in a bizarre fetish now? Man times are changing

Ok, you can't really see that she's got whiskers painted on, but presumably she's glued to the floor, or pretending to be.

[small]Mind you, it would appeal to the strangely large number of people who'd like to to place traps for furries and watch them die horribly.[/small]

 

[archvile93]

Yeah, I don't approve of glue traps, unless nothing else is working.

They make humane traps where it doesn't actually kill the mouse, you just let him go outside.

You know I have tried three models of those when I had mice. Damn mice either didn't go in them, or found ways to eat the bait and get out. Maybe I just had smart mice...

I switched to more traditional snack traps and the mousies started dying.

The 2nd time I had mouse issues a few years ago was coincidentally when I got a new kitten. About the same time the kitty turned 3 or 4 months old the mouse problem just disappeared on its own. Good kitty...crunch crunch crunch.

Yea mice can be surprisingly smart. I knew one that outsmarted my cat on three separate occasions. The first 2 he played dead, the third he hid behind something and slipped out right under my cat's nose.

OT: Yeah that does seem a bit excessively cruel. At least snap traps break the neck, resulting in immediate unconciousness and death.

 

[Fetzenfisch]

someplaces dont have a choice but using those. more or less. I worked in a storagehouse for dairy products , vegetables and fruit (damn cold place to work) and for obvious reasons such a place is not allowed to use poison or traps that uses foodbait that is happily rotting next to fresh food.

 

[Pyro Paul]

I'll never understand why people have to be such jerks when it comes to such things, making the death of something as agonising as possible when traps exist to instantly kill the little buggers. Maybe it's because people think "they're just mice", but it doesn't make it right to kill something like that IMO. When killing an animal, it shouldn't be tortured to death, it should be killed as painlessly as possible.

Have absolutely no problems with killing mice, or any pest animal - just that method, to me, lacks humanity.

Because mice are acctually semi intelegent creatures capable of gnawing their way through damn near anything. hell, given enough time a mouse can even gnaw through steel.

out of the twist traps, the snap traps, and the 'humane catch and release' traps... glue traps are by far the most effective, quickest, and (if you get the right ones) the most humane.

the problem for you is that your company probably ordered the cheap 'no odor' traps.

good glue traps usually have a poison mixed in with the sticky gel. when the mouse gets stuck, he eats the gel to try and get free, gets poisoned, and usually dies quickly and painlessly. it was designed to be an answer to the problem posed by poison pellets in where a mouse would eat the poison, go run off to inbetween a wall and die... stinking up the place.

however, many companies have designed competative cheaper brands of this stuff which are mearly adhesive and little else. such traps tend to be inhumane as there is no promise that the mouse will die quickly and infact many instances mice will try to (and some times succeed) do what you witnessed, gnawing off their own limbs, and pulling off their own flesh to get free.

as to the disposal... i personally would of thrown it in the dumpster with little though. as inhumane that may make me... the verulient death and pestilence carried in varmits is not something i take lightly.

 

[Wintermoot]

blame it on people like the PETA guys they don,t care how the trap works as long as the animal lives. If you want to change the situation you can ask the manager to replace them with traditional traps (the kind that kills immediately) or cage traps (that capture the animal)

 

[MrJoyless]

anything that literally tortures the target is in my opinion wrong

a quick death is one choice and if the kill trap is fast and for the most part painless then i dont have an issue

glue traps are horrid pinning the target in one spot to suffer break its limbs and rip its self apart while starving and screeching with every move (i have had problems with these things since i was a kid and found a still living/screeching half mauled mouse in a glue trap at my friends house...his cat found the mouse first)

personally i like live catch traps, not because i feel for the mouse but because i dont think torturing another mammal to death is a reasonable alternative so ill take the mouse to the field behind my house and give it a shot at not messing with my stuff

p.s. im not some lubby dubby hippie i just like to stand by the dont cause needless pain if there is a reasonable alternative

 

[Zhukov]

Huh. Didn't even know they existed.

I remember my mum using snap traps when I was a kid. Judging by your description, they're a lot better then those glue things.

However, make no mistake, snap traps aren't particularly pleasant either. The mice will often still take several minutes to die. And sometimes it misses the neck and just traps a leg or the like. I had to deliver more then a few coup de graces with a hatchet. Sometimes you get a really badass mouse who gets its leg or tail trapped and then drags the whole trap away. And few times I found traps where the mouse had clearly gnawed its own limb off to escape.

 

[Antari]

snip.

We use live capture traps called Tin Cats at work. They are great. We can collect the mice in the morning and release them to a park at lunch. Just leave some food in the trap and they end up having a party in it.

http://www.biconet.com/traps/tincat.html is one of many places that carries them.

 

[Denamic]

And people think glue traps are actually intended to be more 'humane' and non-lethal.
Ironic, isn't it?

I have a cat.
Except he doesn't actually kill mice.
He'll chase them like a pro, being literally centimetres away from them with his nose.
But he never touches them. He doesn't even paw at them. He just chases them.
He's more a mouse-dar than a hunter.
So I know when you whip out the mouse rag, which is basically just a piece of cloth.
Then I just go out and toss them into some plot of grass.

 

[monkey jesus]

You need a claw-hammer and a fistful of amphetamines.

If at all possible dress as a clown.

Film it and post the video.