What are your thoughts on glue traps?

[Fargus]

good glue traps usually have a poison mixed in with the sticky gel. when the mouse gets stuck, he eats the gel to try and get free, gets poisoned, and usually dies quickly and painlessly.

No such thing. Glue traps are heavily advertised as an alternative to poisons - they're are usually used when there are pets and kids around. Such a trap wouldn't be advertised as "safe" otherwise.

It sounds to me that you assume it exists simply to remove any guilt.

as to the disposal... i personally would of thrown it in the dumpster with little though. as inhumane that may make me... the verulient death and pestilence carried in varmits is not something i take lightly.

And people who torture animals like this is not something I take lightly either.

No, there's absolutely NO excuse for this AT ALL. Your attempt to justify this because of "pestilence" is laughable.

 

[Fargus]

I dislike glue traps for one reason and one reason only. If a mouse gets trapped on one there is no way it is going to just shut up. They start squeeling and making all kinds of noises, its just annoying. Now if the trap just kills it I dont have to listen to its annoying screams.

I'm reasonably positive you'd be screaming were you in such a painful position, crying for help. What a ghastly thing to say: "I dislike it because their screams are annoying". Uhh, they're screams of fear/pain... sheesh...

 

[Wicky_42]

I live close enough to the countryside that I don't have to kill things that don't have to be killed, and I enjoy that, although walking or driving miles out into the countryside to deposit the thing can be a little time consuming it feels better then just killing it.

I'd like to point out that if you catch a mouse it can make its way several miles back to your house, or just into somebody else's if you do it to close to anywhere like that, in the kinda places where people live it's not always an option.

Catapult.

I'm fairly sure that they don't have a lethal terminal velocity, and even if they did they would be returning to the ground/eaten by foxes so that's all good. Fast, simple, hassle-free system for live mouse disposal :3

Get an office cat if glue boards bother you that much.

Though if I'm honest the glue boards are more humane than what a cat does to the mouse. But the cat is soft and fuzzy and adorable and pettable and all that, so it balances out.

That was going to be my next suggestion - our kitten has been catching mice we didn't even know we had. (of course, our two other cats never found anything, the slackers...)

 

[SinisterGehe]

Glue traps are restricted in certain places because of this.

Spoiler: more of PETA's bizarre fetish for half naked women

I might start using glue traps just to be an asshole to these damn freaks who value life of a pest more than a humans They were ready to steal my jacket during winter it was -28celcius outside and windy. ( I wear leather jacket, because it was gift from my mother), they would have let everyone die who need an medicine to survive that had been tested on literally lab rat.

These people ain't kind hearted, they are monsters.

If pests cross to my territory, I will fight back with any means. I know it sounds primitive, but that is how it goes in nature also... I will use the cheapest and most efficient way to get rid of them, but I know that the old snappy traps don't work on them and poison is even more cruel, since I can not ensure a fast death in any point, with glue trap I can ensure a last act of mercy. And I am not one of those people who just forget a trap behind the bookshelf.

And don't glue traps usually have a poison in the glue, so the pest will die when it tries to eat itself off?

 

[diablomaki]

ive have found glue traps at work as well
and there are so many more humane ways to get rid of rodents
seeing people try to defend them lets me know they are just fishing for an argument

 

[Fargus]

And don't glue traps usually have a poison in the glue, so the pest will die when it tries to eat itself off?

No. A poisonous product wouldn't be labelled as "safe" with pets and children otherwise.

And? Its a mouse I dont care about its feelings its an annoying rodent and the only thing its good for is feeding the pets.

And? It's wrong.

Thank you so very much for vindicating my points, however.

 

[googleback]

yeah, that's horrible. There are humane ways of doing things...

 

[Hashime]

Well, I have purposely cut mice apart with my line trimmer on the job at well as stomping them.
Glue traps are the least of their worries.

 

[Fargus]

Buuut apparently their screams of pain are just "annoying".

Sheesh... you don't really need to care about its feelings to show some decency when killing something.

 

[imnot]

I hate traps full stop, poor mousys!
How could anyone harm this

Spoiler

 

[spartan231490]

Glue traps are much less dangerous to humans and pets than snap traps or poison. They are pretty cruel to the mice, but if you check them often enough you can prevent that and give them a quicker death.

This. Also, the snap traps don't always work, sometimes the mice are just too smart and don't trigger them. It's just a mouse, that may sound "evil" but i guarantee you that getting eaten by an owl or a fox, or just plain starving on it's own in the wild, is just as horrendous in it's own way.

 

[Dirkie]

Glue traps are restricted in certain places because of this.

Spoiler: more of PETA's bizarre fetish for half naked women

I should contact Peta on those glueboards, they might be fun.

On a serious note, i used non lethal mousetraps before, and they do tend to work well.
A multiplex box with a seperation board in the middle, one tiny (dime sized) hole in that board with a wire that keeps a small trapdoor up in the bigger entrance hole, the wost i had found was a mouse with a bruised tail.
Use a decent lid and if you get some candy in the trap at the far end, you will have a mouse in the morning. Make sure you put it outside far away from your house or office, or the mouse might be back inside before you are.

 

[Spy_Guy]

Well, it still dies. Difference?
Personally, I think glue traps seem like kind of a waste, I mean... my cat.

I love that cat, really do, she's a dear. So, anyway, she seems to catch those mice really well. So, my bro thinks that's a bad thing, and usually removes the mouse from her presence, but as for me, I think it's really funny to watch the cat amuse herself.

I mean, she can just lie there staring at the mouse for hours. Then when it runs off, she just leaps over and catch it again, then she keeps staring. Though, if she's done it for a long time she may get bored and bite the mouse, so it squeaks. Then she keeps staring at it. It's really fun to watch.
Though, in the end, she usually picks the mouse up by the skin of its' neck and throws it a good meter and a half up into the air. Then she chases it, and does that again, until it stops moving.

After that she goes to the porch and deposits it there.
I love that cat, which is why I wouldn't deny her the joy of the kill.
That's also why I think glue traps are wasteful, there's no joy in that. Personally I'd just either use snappers, or maybe use live traps, then give the catch to the cat.

To be honest, I don't see the harm in that course of action, considering mice are bred to be fed to snakes while still alive (why when I worked at the pet store...).

 

[Pyro Paul]

And people who torture animals like this is not something I take lightly either.

No, there's absolutely NO excuse for this AT ALL. Your attempt to justify this because of "pestilence" is laughable.

http://www.cdc.gov/rodents/diseases/direct.html

Pestilence is a Very Justifiable concern.

also, the number of animal-human based infections have been steadily increasing over the past couple of years. Lassa Fever infections have been on a steady rise since 2000, and some reports say that it claims over 5,000 lives each year.

but if you want to believe that those little tiny mice could possibly not hurt a person like you... you're more then welcome to handle them. Myself, i'll happily let the thing die from exposure rather then risk a hospital visit.


and i have no problem with glue traps

most of the time in my experience with glue traps the mice will burrow their nose into the gel and sufficate. Also a local store here also provides a glue trap laced with poison. sort of a home grown mice trap... weither or not this is global is beyond me, but i consider it one of the better rodent control devices i've seen.

 

[Pyro Paul]

I hate traps full stop, poor mousys!
How could anyone harm this

This guy thought the same thing

Spoiler

 

[Ice Car]

We were having mouse problems in the office and management had the delightful idea of setting up glue traps. One which was right under my desk. One morning I came in and found a mouse stuck on one of them, it was alive - but in such a very bad state. One of his hind legs were twisted/broken, his belly skin was partially torn off and he was actually in the process of gnawing on a limb in an attempt to escape. The poor thing must have been stuck all night, it looked like it was in an incredible amount of pain. I can't believe *this* is an acceptable way to kill something, to force it to maim itself and starve to death - it's a level of torture you'd expect from medieval times. So quite rightly I was upset and a little pissed at the situation.

A co-worker (who is an asshole) suggested I just throw it in the dumpster downstairs. What, so it continues to suffer like that? No way. It's one thing killing a pest, it's another to intentionally let an animal suffer like that, so I'd have no word of it. I had to put the trap in a plastic bag, tie it up and slam the mouse very hard with the bottom of my thermos. Better an instant death like this then being discarded like a piece of rubbish to die agonisingly. After this was done, I went to management and had a word - thankfully, they agreed and replaced the traps with snappy ones. Had they not have, I probably would have sabotaged the glue traps until they replaced them.

I never really gave such traps much thought until then. Now, I absolutely despise glue traps with a passion and plead/discourage people not to use them. They're unnecessarily cruel - actually, "cruel" is quite the understatement here. They're just plain evil. I'll never understand why people have to be such jerks when it comes to such things, making the death of something as agonising as possible when traps exist to instantly kill the little buggers. Maybe it's because people think "they're just mice", but it doesn't make it right to kill something like that IMO. When killing an animal, it shouldn't be tortured to death, it should be killed as painlessly as possible.

Have absolutely no problems with killing mice, or any pest animal - just that method, to me, lacks humanity.

I completely agree, but didn't realize that until someone pointed out to me exactly that; it wasn't instant death, it was suffering for hours, and hours, of starvation, injuries, and other things. I personally despise them, although it sometimes is the onyl thing available as the other traps are quite dangerous to humans, though glue traps are not, and I have to put them in places that I might hurt myself on.

 

[Fargus]

Way to miss my point, Paul.

Pestilence is a Very Justifiable concern.

It is not justification for dumping a frightened, injured animal into the garbage bin for it suffer who knows how long before it dies. That part of it is cruelty, nothing more. I am not talking about the need to kill mice, or what they can potentially carry... I'm talking about being unnecessarily inhumane to the animal after you have caught it.

You are using the guise of pest control as an excuse, where it is not even relevant.

also, the number of animal-human based infections have been steadily increasing over the past couple of years. Lassa Fever infections have been on a steady rise since 2000, and some reports say that it claims over 5,000 lives each year.

So I suppose chucking it into the garbage, alive, for it to suffer... will reduce this disease more than if you had killed it humanely? That makes as much sense as the point you're making here.

Myself, i'll happily let the thing die from exposure rather then risk a hospital visit.

What a cop-out. What risk? Just kill the thing, don't make it suffer more than it has to. You're not going to expose yourself being merciful to the thing any more than you would being a jerk about it. In fact, leaving it on there would expose yourself even more as the animal will most likely continue to leave it's poop and pee all over the trap. You linked the CDC website yet they do not recommend glue traps for this very reason.

Also a local store here also provides a glue trap laced with poison. sort of a home grown mice trap... weither or not this is global is beyond me, but i consider it one of the better rodent control devices i've seen.

As I said, glue traps are advertised as non-poisonous/toxic. It is the reason why they are used over poisons. What that store is doing, might not even be legal. And again, you claim it's quick and painless but you don't even know what poison it is and how it affects them.

You can rationalise killing them all you want, but attempting to justify what I consider torture is pathetic IMO.

 

[Fargus]

The're just mice. Why do you care so much about pests?

Why do I care?

Because I don't believe it's right killing animals in such excruciating, torturous methods when one can do it less painfully.
Because I think torturing animals like that is wrong.
Because I have sympathy for animals.
Because I think saying "they're just mice" is an attempt to justify stuff like that by drawing on the animal's insignificance, and makes no logical sense.

Mice can feel pain, they're mammals... after all. Same reason why I wouldn't hurt a dog like that - because I know it will suffer, and it's completely unnecessary. Mind you, I have no problem shooting a rabid dog that is attacking me. But I wouldn't stick it in a puddle of glue and starve it. Get what I am saying here? Maybe you don't, because you wouldn't have asked otherwise - I am assuming you just skimmed through and didn't recognise the point at its core.

 

[starkiller212]

It seems like some people don't understand that most of us really don't care about mice. Animals aren't intelligent in the same way humans are. I don't find it pleasurable to "torture" animals or anything (except for spiders maybe), but if glue traps were much more convenient I'd use them without hesitation. I don't think they are, so I use the box traps that catch them alive and then let them go outside without any cleanup required. If I see them again, I put out snap traps and it's done.
Frankly, trying to call people "pathetic" for this kind of thing and being so upset over a goddamn mouse says a lot more about you than anyone who uses "inhumane" traps. There's plenty of other problems in the world that are a lot worse than this, so IMO you should put your efforts towards something more useful.

P.S. Stop trying to empathize with animals like "imagine if you were ___". They DON'T feel or think the same way we do so it's a pointless exercise that will make you more upset than you should be over it.

 

[theonlyblaze2]

Meh, to me, it's just a mouse. I use glue traps and snappy ones. I don't release the mice outside anymore because we tried that once and two weeks later we had at least twenty-two mice in the house. So now we use glue and classic traps, but we check at least four times a day. I also notice the mice like the classic traps more. They have the same bait.