Playful Pony said:
Uuuuh well thats a tough one! We start learning spoken and written English at the age of 6, same time we start learning the Norwegian written language. In adition to this there is TV, movies, games and the internet which is mostly in English. This I would say is the main reason why so many of us have a reasonable comprehension of the language. We hear it and see it written almost every day.
We also have a mandatory third language to learn, but you are allowed to chose between German, French and Spanish. Most people that learn this do not come anywhere near the level they are at with English. I have a very basic understanding of German despite 3 years of it in school, and I couldn't hope at having a conversation with someone from Germany (although I'd be willing to try if I needed..)!
Son of a *****. Son of a fucking *****.
Mandatory learning of another language at age
SIX?
To give you an example of how my early schooling went here in the USA: I was selected, I thought randomly, for a Spanish class around the same age which was "first grade" in our Elementary school system.
(I later found out that my school thought of me as a "student with high potential" or some such nonsense - yes, I know how pretentious that sounds, but remember: their words, not mine. Also remember, this is an American school I'm talking about - standards are pretty low. I'm not "gifted".) So about halfway through the morning of our six-hour day, a different teacher called the eight or ten of us outside and we walked to a new classroom where we were taught Spanish. The first time this happened, I was scared shitless. I thought I had either done something very serious that I was unaware of or something crazy/horrible happened to my family, etc.
Every single day the Spanish teacher would enter the classroom and those of us that were part of this group got up and went off without saying a word to anyone. We never talked about what we did with any other students or our regular teacher. Once we were done with Spanish, it was back to our regular classroom or recess
(depending on how long we spent in the Spanish class) and business carried on as usual. It was so very clandestine and so very "quiet" that I thought we were doing something that wasn't approved or was illegal.
Apparently we were part of a "pilot program" in an attempt to teach students another language at a younger age than they would normally learn it
(which would be during High School around age 16, so around a decade later). The fucked up thing is, the program was very successful but it
never caught on, progressed or was adopted. For instance, I still remember most numbers up to 100; I can greet, introduce myself and engage in a very basic conversation - all in Spanish, a language I haven't used since then...
TWENTY YEARS LATER.
This irks me because I know I could've been fluent by the time I had left Elementary school, and it also raises a lot of questions. Why did the program not continue despite it proving successful
(we had to take comprehension-type tests every three weeks or so in order to measure progress I'm guessing)? Why were we just cast off without any explanation or any further options after the program ended? These questions, and others, will
never be answered and I don't think the answers would be very satisfying anyway. Other students could've benefit as well. I was definitely no genius. I was actually a pretty crappy student for a long time, so I don't even know how I was chosen for that class. Everyone could have benefit from early learning of a secondary language. It was just such a missed opportunity.
But that was sort of my point in the original post: other languages are not only
not learned at an early age, but they're not even required to graduate from school and receive a diploma. I suppose the equivalent would be completing "secondary school" or "continuation school" on your side of that massive water hazard... I think.
And a mandatory
third language?! Ha! Are you kidding? As I said, people have a hard enough time over here with their
first language. A third language is absolute absurdity! You people are completely ridiculous!
Playful Pony said:
Well done =3. The spoken language is simply known as "Norwegian" as it varies a great deal due to local dialects. We have two written languages, "bokmål" being the most common, and "nynorsk", which is relatively new. "Nynorsk" litterally means "New Norwegian"... We learn both written languages in school.
Ancient Norwegian is very simpilar to what Icelandic is today, but it does indeed have more in common with Danish/Swedish today.
The flag is red, white and blue. Same as the States, and UK for that matter!
Damn it. How did I remember "bokmål" over "nynorsk"? The latter seems far easier to remember. What does "bokmål" mean? "Book words"? "Book letters"? "Book speech"? Not even close? Fuck.
Interestingly enough, the state that I live in has a very high Scandinavian population, especially those of Norwegian ancestry. Apparently our climate is quite similar, although it definitely doesn't snow as much, but it's fairly temperate.
Apologies for the huge walls of text.