sen·tience (snshns, -sh-ns)Nouw said:
actually, the only reason human children are completely useless for a long time isn't due to a hormone, its due to our glorious brain.DaJoW said:
Are you kidding? Every time we found a line in the sand before, we found some way to better stretch the resources we had. Not enough nuts and berries and wild animals? Ok, we'll invent horticulture and pastoralism! Not enough wild food, tended food, and herded food? That's fine, agriculture it is! Not enough room for all of us to live together without serious repercussions? Sanitation and city planning! We're coming up against another line, and you know what we're going to do? Because I know what we're going to do. We're going to find a way to ensure the survival of the most living people, and we're going to incorporate environmentalism in there. In the Environmentalism is on the rise, and the fact that it was less before shows that environmental damage that we caused was based in a lack of understanding of how the world works (or in the case of modern environmental damage, by economic pressures to damage the environment. People in Haiti need firewood, and there are way too many people there with way too little money, so they deforest the place). There isn't a whole lot of economic incentive to cause ecological destruction anymore, except in the poorest of nations.ExileNZ said:You kidding? Wolves and gorillas know not to fuck with the alpha if they know what's good for them. That's self-restraint right there.conflictofinterests said:That comes with a complex understanding of the world around us and of the consequences of our actions, which is only enabled by our ability to combine numerous ideas at once.Deathmageddon said:
Also, humanity as a whole is showing too little restraint too late - we're fucking up the world for everyone, not just ourselves.
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Pacific_Garbage_Patch)
Other animals find a balance. We've managed to find where the line in the sand is and completely ignore it.
That's exactly what I said... we are separated from other animals because we cannot conceive fertile offspring with them. I'm unsure what your point is in quoting thisCulixCupric said:
games are for enjoyment which helps with mental stability which allows us to live on a daily basis, how is this not self preservation, its is still about survival, it allows us to stay sane, i disagree that games are not important, they can be used for teaching and improving skills in a non real world situation, they are essential to many parts of survival in many waysconflictofinterests said:
Because [a href="http://www.switched.com/2007/09/17/man-dies-after-days-of-non-stop-gaming/"]this[/a] isn't a thing. How many times have you played a video game and gotten more frustrated than you were previously? How many times have you neglected other duties to play video games? Part and parcel of being human is doing things for pleasure, not just for survival. Mental rejuvenation can be achieved even during activities directly related to survival, and citing that as proof that everything is based on survival is as meaningless as saying "everything we do is everything we do."rammst13n said:
As a linguist and a bilingual, far, FAR too many. That said, I don't see how rules of communication come under self-restraint - for most people they're implicit, not explicit (we do them because they work, not because we consciously decide not to do otherwise).conflictofinterests said:Are you kidding? Every time we found a line in the sand before, we found some way to better stretch the resources we had. Not enough nuts and berries and wild animals? Ok, we'll invent horticulture and pastoralism! Not enough wild food, tended food, and herded food? That's fine, agriculture it is! Not enough room for all of us to live together without serious repercussions? Sanitation and city planning! We're coming up against another line, and you know what we're going to do? Because I know what we're going to do. We're going to find a way to ensure the survival of the most living people, and we're going to incorporate environmentalism in there. In the Environmentalism is on the rise, and the fact that it was less before shows that environmental damage that we caused was based in a lack of understanding of how the world works (or in the case of modern environmental damage, by economic pressures to damage the environment. People in Haiti need firewood, and there are way too many people there with way too little money, so they deforest the place). There isn't a whole lot of economic incentive to cause ecological destruction anymore, except in the poorest of nations.ExileNZ said:You kidding? Wolves and gorillas know not to fuck with the alpha if they know what's good for them. That's self-restraint right there.conflictofinterests said:That comes with a complex understanding of the world around us and of the consequences of our actions, which is only enabled by our ability to combine numerous ideas at once.Deathmageddon said:
Also, humanity as a whole is showing too little restraint too late - we're fucking up the world for everyone, not just ourselves.
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Pacific_Garbage_Patch)
Other animals find a balance. We've managed to find where the line in the sand is and completely ignore it.
And anyways, on the first point, humans exercise a much larger amount of self restraint than animals; we have culture. How many rules JUST FOR SPEAKING can you name off the top of your head?
i'm saying it works between other animals as well, not just them and us.WitherVoice said:That's exactly what I said... we are separated from other animals because we cannot conceive fertile offspring with them. I'm unsure what your point is in quoting this
