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ummmmmm sry, did you just start a thread that could of been entitled 'Nazi's: Good or Bad?'?, thats something you woulden't often find on a far right wing site full of idiots whereas the escapist is full of intelligent bleeding-heart liberals
That's the interesting thing about fascism, in its pure form (without being perverted like communism and fascism both have been) it's not about dictatorship. It's government control of the economy in order to run everything more efficiently. As a system of government, it can work even within the current bounds of a representative democracy (sort of, since the constituents would have to want the government running business). Mussolini made the trains run on time, after all.MBergman said:
You could be a 'liberal-fascist', I know I am, I judge people by their appearance all the time (one of things that makes me an average human being) and Im still pretty liberalDemented Teddy said:
Bad enough Fascists get painted with the same brush.Demented Teddy said:
I just hope we Unificationists don't get targeted
And Nazis... Nazionale... National... hmmm... I see a blurring of the lines and what people see Nazis as nowadays.
By bleeding heart liberals I assume you mean not inclined toward genocide and racism?ShakyFiend said:
The Nazi philosophy of racial purity was evil. Nuff said.
Admittedly they did get stuff done. Very good at building motorways/freeways/autobahn those Nazis... Always efficient. Pity they insisted on building weapons and extermination camps as well as new roads. And imagine if Hitler had decided to hate something other than Jews. Like coleslaw... I could do without coleslaw. I bet noone would've cared if the Nazi's just rounded up all the coleslaw and buried it in a huge pit underground somewhere. Would've even been quite funny if they tried to gas or burn it. Hell, I've tried to burn it once or twice... Ick.
Anyway, to sum up, the Nazis were evil, and so is coleslaw. I bet it was Hitler's favourite sandwich filling...
New Nazi's are nothing like the real Nazi's during the second World War. They've just stolen their name.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism#Social_Darwinism and I quote the leader of the neo-nazi group quoted in this article 'I'm just against abortion for the pure white race. For blacks and other mongrelized races, abortion is a good idea' im not one to rush to conclusions but that would seem like judging people by appearance to meDemented Teddy said:
I believe that my ideal nation(eventually world) must be united under the control of one party, group or person, only then can true advancement (science, culture, philosophy,etc.) begin. As the people are united under the leader's vision of a perfect world, then true focus can be applied and efficient results will be produced.ShakyFiend said:
Criticism should be allowed so that the leader's policies can be perfected. However, public riots/protests/strikes would not be allowed as they would affect the nation's productivity. I believe that peaceful measure should be used to ensure order is maintained, yet when necessary I think violence should be used without restraint. As such, a secret police would be present so any major dissenters would be dealt with swiftly and efficiently.
Obviously, no rival parties would exist. Only the leader is in command, and only the leader possesses power create laws/make decisions on a national scale.[/quote] didnt Stalin have a similar ideology? i.e. where necessary kill
The nazi's were wrong to think that they were a higher being. However, during wartime, just like in all the other countries, people were drafted and sent out to war if they were 18 or able-bodied so many of the "nazis" did not believe in what they did as a whole and they didn't go against their country for they would be killed
I believe that my ideal nation(eventually world) must be united under the control of one party, group or person, only then can true advancement (science, culture, philosophy,etc.) begin. As the people are united under the leader's vision of a perfect world, then true focus can be applied and efficient results will be produced.ShakyFiend said:
Criticism should be allowed so that the leader's policies can be perfected. However, public riots/protests/strikes would not be allowed as they would affect the nation's productivity. I believe that peaceful measure should be used to ensure order is maintained, yet when necessary I think violence should be used without restraint. As such, a secret police would be present so any major dissenters would be dealt with swiftly and efficiently.
Obviously, no rival parties would exist. Only the leader is in command, and only the leader possesses power create laws/make decisions on a national scale[/quote] didnt Stalin have a similar ideology? i.e. where necessary kill
thing that is scary about them is that no they whernt monsters they where normal people like you or i who had been told that these people thye killed where subhuman and so it was ok to kill them thats why we have to be carfull to not hate andone with the passion because once you see somthing as sub human your notthat far from murder.
What do I think of Natzis? Well, they were fucking monsters, and that's the point. When you've got a group of people still being made to stand trial for atrocities committed before your parents lifetimes, you know those people have made quite an err in judgment at some point.
Perhaps my anger is misdirected, but this is the third time I've gotten on The 'pist and found a thread asking, "What do you think of Natzis?" in as many weeks. Why do people keep asking this? Certainly they weren't all genocidal monsters, and most of them were coerced more than anything, but as a group, they killed eleven million people! How you even begin to sympathize with them is beyond me.
Apologies if I seem touchy, but to me, sympathizing with Natzis is paramount to advocating violence, which is something you do not do!
Perhaps my anger is misdirected, but this is the third time I've gotten on The 'pist and found a thread asking, "What do you think of Natzis?" in as many weeks. Why do people keep asking this? Certainly they weren't all genocidal monsters, and most of them were coerced more than anything, but as a group, they killed eleven million people! How you even begin to sympathize with them is beyond me.
Apologies if I seem touchy, but to me, sympathizing with Natzis is paramount to advocating violence, which is something you do not do!