What EXACTLY is wrong with people today?

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Koganesaga

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Asking what's wrong with people is like asking why turkeys stare at the sky mouth open when it rains, because seeing how we can't rely on good ole god to wipe out humanity, we need to slowly but surely do it ourselves.
 

Burningsok

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Thaius said:
Burningsok said:
Thaius said:
It depends on your worldview, really. From an atheistic perspective... I don't know, just that some people are stupid or something I guess. From a religious one (monotheistic, at least), humankind is flawed, and you are seeing examples of sin nature. I personally think that one makes more sense, so I'l go for saying that humankind is inherently good, but fundamentally flawed, and those who don't know or don't care do stupid crap like this for whatever their messed up reasons are. There are many different reasons, but ultimately it comes down to a flawed sense of morality and purpose.

My two cents, anyway.
just touching on the aspect of humans being good, we actually are neither. if you strip away the laws and rules us humans have created then there is no right or wrong, it comes down to instinct and survival. Only the smartest and or strongest survive.
See though, that's assuming an atheistic point of view: in that case, you are right. If, on the other hand, there is in fact a god who created the universe, then whatever he defines as right and wrong is, in fact, right and wrong. He would have created the world with a certain natural order, both in scientific and social ways, and straying from those ways would be considered, by definition of the one who created us and everything else, wrong, and thus wrong within the context of the universe in which we live.

Not trying to disprove you with religious ideas, just presenting the difference that makes the idea of good and evil viable within the context of a religious worldview.
no, no your fine, I'm just presenting a logical standpoint on it all. I see what your talking about, and it makes sense. What I mean is when you strip away all rules even religious beliefs as well, it comes down to survival. We are one of the very few species that has the ability to reason which makes our species extremely strong and in some ways dangerous. That's why we are so dominate. God gave us this, at a cost, sin i guess; we get to make choices.

btw I'm a christian... no need for any apologies :) I can see why you would assume.
 

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People are stupid and selfish. That's how they are, that's how they always will be. Eventually you will learn to embrace the stupidity of others as endless opportunities for you.
 

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Dorian6 said:
Sir John The Net Knight said:
The only conceivable possibility to the actual truth of fears regarding 2012 is if the hippies running the world do something so inconceivably stupid that it destroys the planet.

Oh, wait...
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and how exactly is the Large Hadron Collider stupid and going to destroy the world?[/quote]

Um, it's going to 'splode, doooooooooooyyy!

Gosh, stupid people sometimes...

OT: What exactly do you mean? A stupid kid in my class once ate a gummy bear that was stuck to another kids shoe.
 

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Starke said:
Dorian6 said:
Sir John The Net Knight said:
The only conceivable possibility to the actual truth of fears regarding 2012 is if the hippies running the world do something so inconceivably stupid that it destroys the planet.

Oh, wait...
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and how exactly is the Large Hadron Collider stupid and going to destroy the world?
Well, it's already destroyed the frames on this page. Imagine how much more power it will have after it is allowed to expand even further.

There was something about ripping a hole into subspace and consuming the world or something, I'll admit, I didn't pay it much heed.
It will not suck the earth into a black hole. Saying it will is wrong on multiple layers, like an onion. It is fractally wrong, wrong at every conceivable level.

It won't make a black hole - collisions of these energies happen all the time in the upper atmosphere with no black holes.
->Even if it does:
The blackhole will decay via hawking radiation
->Even if it doesn't:
It'll be so weak it'll pass straight through the Earth
->Even if it doesn't:
It'll be too weak to do anything.

The LHC will not make a black hole. It will not tear a hole in time. It cannot be used as a weapon. It is not sabotaging itself from the future.
 

Thaius

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Burningsok said:
Thaius said:
Burningsok said:
Thaius said:
It depends on your worldview, really. From an atheistic perspective... I don't know, just that some people are stupid or something I guess. From a religious one (monotheistic, at least), humankind is flawed, and you are seeing examples of sin nature. I personally think that one makes more sense, so I'l go for saying that humankind is inherently good, but fundamentally flawed, and those who don't know or don't care do stupid crap like this for whatever their messed up reasons are. There are many different reasons, but ultimately it comes down to a flawed sense of morality and purpose.

My two cents, anyway.
just touching on the aspect of humans being good, we actually are neither. if you strip away the laws and rules us humans have created then there is no right or wrong, it comes down to instinct and survival. Only the smartest and or strongest survive.
See though, that's assuming an atheistic point of view: in that case, you are right. If, on the other hand, there is in fact a god who created the universe, then whatever he defines as right and wrong is, in fact, right and wrong. He would have created the world with a certain natural order, both in scientific and social ways, and straying from those ways would be considered, by definition of the one who created us and everything else, wrong, and thus wrong within the context of the universe in which we live.

Not trying to disprove you with religious ideas, just presenting the difference that makes the idea of good and evil viable within the context of a religious worldview.
no, no your fine, I'm just presenting a logical standpoint on it all. I see what your talking about, and it makes sense. What I mean is when you strip away all rules even religious beliefs as well, it comes down to survival. We are one of the very few species that has the ability to reason which makes our species extremely strong and in some ways dangerous. That's why we are so dominate. God gave us this, at a cost, sin i guess; we get to make choices.

btw I'm a christian... no need for any apologies :) I can see why you would assume.
Well... that makes things easy. Usually posting religious ideas on this site just gets people mad at me. Talking to a fellow Christian reduces that possibility, lol. :)

Yes, I do see what you're saying. I just think that, from a Christian standpoint, God's law takes priority over the purely logical goal of survival. It's all a matter of how to live, rather than a command to simply live.

In my theology class a while back, we were talking about the fall and what the state of humankind is versus the nature of it. It was a rather interesting topic, really: is humanity naturally evil, good, or neutral, and what effect does sin have on it all? I personally thought the idea that made the most sense was that God made us inherently good, but our choice of sin affected humankind like a disease: sin is not our nature, but a perversion of it. Interesting stuff, theology is.
 

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TyrantGanado said:
People today are the same as people 1000 years ago. Violent and dangerous. The only thing about today is that as a society we've broken down so many taboos that more and more things are "acceptable." That and we have a society infested with idiots who love nothing more than consuming intoxicating substances and going on stab-happy rampages. And people look at me funny when I say I'd get rid of them all.

*hides plans for genocide of the useless*
What?! don't hide them! I wanna see if they're better then my plans!
OT: People being people, without the consequence of such.
 

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Too many to get into but allow me to try. Stupidity , Why the Fuck not Syndrome, attention, misguided ideas. The thing is everyone's conflicting stupidity runs rampant, they all believe they are doing something fun or good and will get the desired result but honestly the reasons vary to much from person to person to catalog them all. (if they don't want any result and still do something stupid please refer to the ancient proverb (The person acting stupid for no reason is stupid)).
 

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Sir John The Net Knight said:
Dorian6 said:
Sir John The Net Knight said:
The only conceivable possibility to the actual truth of fears regarding 2012 is if the hippies running the world do something so inconceivably stupid that it destroys the planet.

Oh, wait...
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and how exactly is the Large Hadron Collider stupid and going to destroy the world?[/quote]

Strange... You know what it is, but you don't know that there's a chance that it can make black holes. Uh, just so you know...Black holes are bad. Like [S]crossing the streams bad[/S] crossing a million streams at once, bad.[/quote]

Do [i]you[/i] realize that any black holes the LHC could have possibly made would so utterly miniscule, they wouldn't have been able to actually do so much as damage the machine itself, let alone destroy the bloody planet?

Oh, and let's not forget that the black hole would have also more than likely have dissolved almost instantly!

Honestly, the sheer amount of people that don't even bother researching something before they begin to rail on it is fucking [i]astounding...[/i]
 

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Soulgaunt said:
TyrantGanado said:
People today are the same as people 1000 years ago. Violent and dangerous. The only thing about today is that as a society we've broken down so many taboos that more and more things are "acceptable." That and we have a society infested with idiots who love nothing more than consuming intoxicating substances and going on stab-happy rampages. And people look at me funny when I say I'd get rid of them all.

*hides plans for genocide of the useless*
What?! don't hide them! I wanna see if they're better then my plans!
OT: People being people, without the consequence of such.
*looks around, discreetly shows plans*

I look forward to a...productive relationship.

And no, not in that sense.
 

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Are you sure it wasn't the last couple weeks? If it is, then those weeks have significant meaning. Anyone who has read The Call of Cthulhu will know what I mean.
 

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Personally I see people being stupid as a good thing, they teach us want not to do and give us a good laugh while watching them. Everyone wins!
 

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What's most annoying about this common precept is that it assumes that there's a simple cause and effect relation in human interaction. Reducing human culture to simple, direct causes such as pop culture, religious myths, a dearth of honor, ect. does even more injustice than the "wrong" behavior of "today" because it doesn't seek to understand the people called into question. Rather, things like this thread reduce people into an abstraction of badness, a simple formula that we can all walk away with like a pacifier of self-assurance. This is what allows the ideologue to stop thinking and rest in whatever right is at the expense of othering the "wrong" people. All ideologies centered around "right" and "wrong" come down to this xenophobia. Instead of writing off one thing or another, first try to answer for yourself how it is interesting rather than moral. Consider the thing itself rather than how it fits into your system. Real morality isn't about self-justification, but the empathy one has for one's neighbor. Stay focused on the individual.

Now, if this is about internet BadMannering, the response is simple. Don't care about it, and when putting out an opinion that others will disagree with, be as polite as possible to not give them a toe-hold to flame against you.
 

ma55ter_fett

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There is the same amount of shit going on today as there was yesteerday and 3 years ago, the diffrence is that only the shit is considered news worthy thats why all you ever read about is shit.
 

Soulgaunt

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TyrantGanado said:
Soulgaunt said:
TyrantGanado said:
People today are the same as people 1000 years ago. Violent and dangerous. The only thing about today is that as a society we've broken down so many taboos that more and more things are "acceptable." That and we have a society infested with idiots who love nothing more than consuming intoxicating substances and going on stab-happy rampages. And people look at me funny when I say I'd get rid of them all.

*hides plans for genocide of the useless*
What?! don't hide them! I wanna see if they're better then my plans!
OT: People being people, without the consequence of such.
*looks around, discreetly shows plans*

I look forward to a...productive relationship.

And no, not in that sense.
Wouldn't it be counter-productive? Maybe in a general feel, but in its untentions, it would be productive.......Also, I think mutant dolphins aided by flooding would work......