ms_sunlight said:how can it be racist if they aren't a race? Last I checked, their White, right?Rastien said:You know it's really racist to use terms like "pikey" and "gyppo", right?mgirl said:Very true!Rastien said:That's actually a common misconception, the origin of the word was, (if I remember my A-level English correctly) a gypsy slang term that came into common use. The acronym thing isnt true, people have just made that up later on.although it has commonly been accepted to stand for that in somerset although to be honest we have more trouble with pikeys and gypos stealing anything that isn't nailed down lol
If you mean Irish travellers or Roma, say so.
Volf99 said:Well this is the thing alot of these guys and girls are often british and just like the lifestyle, it's abit of a politically correct minefieldms_sunlight said:how can it be racist if they aren't a race? Last I checked, their White, right?Rastien said:You know it's really racist to use terms like "pikey" and "gyppo", right?mgirl said:Very true!Rastien said:That's actually a common misconception, the origin of the word was, (if I remember my A-level English correctly) a gypsy slang term that came into common use. The acronym thing isnt true, people have just made that up later on.although it has commonly been accepted to stand for that in somerset although to be honest we have more trouble with pikeys and gypos stealing anything that isn't nailed down lol
If you mean Irish travellers or Roma, say so.
Rastien said:By British do you mean English? Because I haven't heard about Chavs being in Scotland. If you do mean English, why do people care if its pc or not? The US doesn't care if people look down or insult rednecks, skin head, wiggers, ect.Volf99 said:Well this is the thing alot of these guys and girls are often british and just like the lifestyle, it's abit of a politically correct minefieldms_sunlight said:how can it be racist if they aren't a race? Last I checked, their White, right?Rastien said:You know it's really racist to use terms like "pikey" and "gyppo", right?mgirl said:Very true!Rastien said:That's actually a common misconception, the origin of the word was, (if I remember my A-level English correctly) a gypsy slang term that came into common use. The acronym thing isnt true, people have just made that up later on.although it has commonly been accepted to stand for that in somerset although to be honest we have more trouble with pikeys and gypos stealing anything that isn't nailed down lol
If you mean Irish travellers or Roma, say so.
The only reason you've not heard of chavs in Scotland is because they're called Neds up there, as they're called Charvers in other bits of England.Volf99 said:By British do you mean English? Because I haven't heard about Chavs being in Scotland. If you do mean English, why do people care if its pc or not? The US doesn't care if people look down or insult rednecks, skin head, wiggers, ect.
so are neds the ones that are infamous for giving people a Glasgow smile? Or is that a different group of people?thylasos said:The only reason you've not heard of chavs in Scotland is because they're called Neds up there, as they're called Charvers in other bits of England.Volf99 said:By British do you mean English? Because I haven't heard about Chavs being in Scotland. If you do mean English, why do people care if its pc or not? The US doesn't care if people look down or insult rednecks, skin head, wiggers, ect.
Actually Chav comes from ancient Greek. It was 'Chavvi' which meant disruptive child. I do however agree with your second paragraphmgirl said:That's actually a common misconception, the origin of the word was, (if I remember my A-level English correctly) a gypsy slang term that came into common use. The acronym thing isnt true, people have just made that up later on.Rastien said:Council
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To answer your question, chavs generally arent viewed as a sub culture exactly... it's more often used as a blanket term for young people who cause trouble. And from what I've seen, this word is starting to fall out of use a lot more. At least where I live, anyway.
Volf99 said:Roma are a Race of people from modern day Iran or Turkey and were treated worse then the Jews during the holocaust, they are still hated all across Europe because of the negative stereotypes that surround themms_sunlight said:how can it be racist if they aren't a race? Last I checked, their White, right?Rastien said:You know it's really racist to use terms like "pikey" and "gyppo", right?mgirl said:Very true!Rastien said:That's actually a common misconception, the origin of the word was, (if I remember my A-level English correctly) a gypsy slang term that came into common use. The acronym thing isnt true, people have just made that up later on.although it has commonly been accepted to stand for that in somerset although to be honest we have more trouble with pikeys and gypos stealing anything that isn't nailed down lol
If you mean Irish travellers or Roma, say so.
this man knows what he's talking about, i can't put it in words better, you know whats worse than a chav? having to live with one, especially when they're a family member, the feeling of disgust that we come from the same gene pool explains americaRastien said:Harry Brown is an extreme example of them but thats pretty much it. Chav is also an acronym see below.
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God knows why its become populour but they are just a nightmare majority of the time. To become a chav you must have complete distate for any form of authority wether it be school, police or your potential employer whilst feeling the world owes you something.
Needless to say the majority seem to have a massive chip on their shoulder for some reason.
KLJT said:I hate to nitpick but I think you mean ethnic group, not race.Volf99 said:Roma are a Race of people from modern day Iran or Turkey and were treated worse then the Jews during the holocaust, they are still hated all across Europe because of the negative stereotypes that surround themms_sunlight said:how can it be racist if they aren't a race? Last I checked, their White, right?Rastien said:You know it's really racist to use terms like "pikey" and "gyppo", right?mgirl said:Very true!Rastien said:That's actually a common misconception, the origin of the word was, (if I remember my A-level English correctly) a gypsy slang term that came into common use. The acronym thing isnt true, people have just made that up later on.although it has commonly been accepted to stand for that in somerset although to be honest we have more trouble with pikeys and gypos stealing anything that isn't nailed down lol
If you mean Irish travellers or Roma, say so.
/brofist i feel for you man, my youngest sister was abit chavy but she grew out of that phase thank fook lolthis man knows what he's talking about, i can't put it in words better, you know whats worse than a chav? having to live with one, especially when they're a family member, the feeling of disgust that we come from the same gene pool explains america
ManThatYouFear said:Correct. There is not a single decent person of Roma descent existing in the world today. I'll quit university and go steal things, since you insist. Likewise, nobody without a fixed residence is fully human.ms_sunlight said:Are you serious?.. there fucking scum, the original gypos of old no longer exist, there thieving dirty little bastards who should be ques up next to the chavs for the firing line, and for you to say its racist? your either one of them or never dealt with them.. ever.Rastien said:You know it's really racist to use terms like "pikey" and "gyppo", right?mgirl said:Very true!Rastien said:That's actually a common misconception, the origin of the word was, (if I remember my A-level English correctly) a gypsy slang term that came into common use. The acronym thing isnt true, people have just made that up later on.although it has commonly been accepted to stand for that in somerset although to be honest we have more trouble with pikeys and gypos stealing anything that isn't nailed down lol
If you mean Irish travellers or Roma, say so.
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And 'never dealt with them'? Who did you deal with. Because unless the Roma became a hive mind while I wasn't looking, you dealt with a group of individual assholes. Meet some pricks. Pricks belong to a group. Entire group consists only of pricks. Where the hell does the logic in that come from?
Honestly, I think a lot of the modern incarnation is tax-dodging, law-avoiding nonsense. But condemning an entire subculture or ethnic group is just ignorant and hateful. Both of which I believe are good attributes for the firing line.