What is a "try hard"?
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It is something people call me when show skill instead of laziness by accomplishing my tasks set before me. Its as insulting as when people call me gay, since I basically am. These are the same people who use hardscoper as an insult too, and that is to use a sniper for its intended purpose in its intended way as opposed to cheating via exploiting the aim assist function that hopefully will be removed in MW3.
'Try-hard' is a term used by people who lose at a game and don't want to own up to their loss. Such people take the game more seriously than the people they're referring to as 'try-hards' or 'no-lifes', but choose not to put forth the necessary time and effort to get better at the game, instead choosing to blame their defeats on better players. An excellent example is people who complain about an opponent's choice of character in a fighting game, such as the Marvel vs. Capcom 3 online player base who will insult you heavily if you use Dante, Wolverine, Gouki, Wesker, Phoenix, or Sentinel. They accuse Dante/Wolverine/Gouki/Wesker/Phoenix/Sentinel players of not caring about fun or wanting to ruin other peoples' fun, but the irony of this statement is that the objector is so closed-minded that the only definition of 'fun' that they acknowledge is their own. It never occurs to these people that perhaps employing provably effective tactics, progressing as a player, and learning more about the game is fun to some people.
tl;dr edition: If someone calls you a 'try-hard', then that person takes the game more seriously than you do, despite being worse at it, and is so obsessed with himself that the only opinion he acknowledges is his own.
tl;dr edition: If someone calls you a 'try-hard', then that person takes the game more seriously than you do, despite being worse at it, and is so obsessed with himself that the only opinion he acknowledges is his own.
I use LMGs in MW2 and in general I kill the people using the standard array of douchebag tactics. And if I (or my team) wins, I typically am called a try-hard. So I figure it's just the asshole way of addressing people with talent.
Dirty Hipsters said:
If you don't take every single advantage you can get to win, You are bound to lose. If they have the overpowered guns, why don't you use them? If they have them because they are higher level than you, they've earned them. Everything you said is a valid tactic to win. Further more, winning is fun losing is not, If I'm playing a game to have fun, I'm playing to win.
Yeah, I'd say Sentinal is the cheaper character out of those 3 ... 2 unskilled players and the guy with wesker on the team has an advantage with the high def/att but once you get to the point where you're fighting skilled guys then a wesker in your party won't mean shit unless you've practiced .... SENTINAL on the other hand .... shiiiiiiiit .. can't wait til strider's back ... until then ... better drink my own pisslordmardok said:
I've never really understood most of what or why people use to insult one another with online, but here's my best guess, but given the context, they're calling people noobs without flat-out calling them noobs. It's not so much that they want you to play worse, they're just mad at being on the losing team and have nothing better to say. I could try to go deeper than that, but chances are it's nothing more than a kid having a tantrum despite being one of the lowest scored people in the game.Ando85 said:
Welcome to online gaming
Rule #1: Everybody is a asshat, live with it
Rule #2: If you have a problem with rule 1, sucks to be you
Rule #1: Everybody is a asshat, live with it
Rule #2: If you have a problem with rule 1, sucks to be you
I've never heard of that term myself. But I assume it's the same or at least similar kind of insult as W+M1, which is used on most people who play as Pyros in TF2. Oh yes, because playing a class the way it was intended to be played is a bad thing, and people need to be punished for it.
People who are bad at video games and have huge egos accuse people who are better than them of being "tryhards" as a pathetic justification of their failure. They can't accept the fact that they failed despite trying their best so they have bought in to this ridiculous notion that they "play for fun" while anybody who is better than they are "plays to win and doesn't have fun".
These are the same people who adopt tactics like camping and use exclusively use the most overpowered weapons they can, and of course, get fuming mad whenever they don't win.
Anybody who seriously uses the word "tryhard" is a loser. They aren't worth your time.
These are the same people who adopt tactics like camping and use exclusively use the most overpowered weapons they can, and of course, get fuming mad whenever they don't win.
Anybody who seriously uses the word "tryhard" is a loser. They aren't worth your time.
Its funny because most of the time these players suck XD although i do get a bit miffed when i come across someone with a gamertag like "OonllySNipEzz" and yet they are using a FAMASruben6f said:
I definitely agree with that, but I hardly come across that in FPS games these days, it's mostly people whining cause you were camping or using cheap weapons or other stupid sore loser comments such as that.onewheeled999 said:
I do hate it when I play RTS games and teammates start calling you a noob ************ just because you aren't playing lightning uber-micro speed.
In my opinion good sportsmanship is doing whatever it takes to win within the rules of the game. Giving less than 100% is like implying your opponent isn't a threat, in other words that they're below you. Granted I know it's not intended that way, but I have the most fun when people are trying their hardest. I just don't feel motivated to compete with someone that just wants to goof off, and then I feel like I'm wasting my time.Dirty Hipsters said:
Being "cheap" is just the baying of people who enter a competitive environment and then get all pissy because the way they want to play isn't effective. They get all moany because the way you're playing is spoiling their fun and they should be able to play however they want, but you are playing the way you want and their bitching and goofing around is spoiling your fun. So anyone that bitches that other people give them crap for playing how they want and then turns around and complains about being "cheap" has their head so far up their own ass they can lick their vocal cords.
The whole "tryhard" thing is just how they rationalize being less skilled than others or dehumanize people who play differently to make it look like they're a better person. They can't admit it when someone is better than them at something, so they and all their friends lie completely straight-faced to each other about how sad it is that others have to be good at a video game to feel good about themselves, when really those others are just enjoying a game they have been playing longer and understand better, and these guys are covering their shame over getting beat at a video game like it's a threat to their masculinity. If you really use the word "tryhard" with a straight face, then you yourself are trying hard to play down something like it doesn't matter, as if the people around you think it does. No, they don't, and unless your friends are as shallow, insecure, and obsessed with being "on top" of the social hierarchy as you, they probably find it really annoying.
Yeah, I enjoy playing games competitively. Technically, yes, that makes me a tryhard. I try hard, I am a tryhard, I won't even try to deny that. However, I don't believe that makes me better than people who like to goof around. I'm cool with people who like to dick around, I get it, I do it myself when the mood strikes, but I don't want people dicking around when I'm trying to have a good, high-level game. The problem is that because of this social-socialist melting-pot matchmaking crap every game uses now, I don't get a choice who I play with. Yeah, I can make a party with a few friends, but we can't choose our opponents, or our teammates in larger game modes. We used to have servers, and server hosts could choose what type of environment they wanted to foster. You could find one you liked, and rejoin it every time you played, and make friends, and build reputations and relationships. There were lots of cool communities for both casual and hardcore gamers, and everyone could join the community that was right for them. Nobody had to deal with "tryhards" being all serious and "cheap" in casual servers or casuals "noobing it up" and whining about dying in hardcore servers. THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THIS KIND OF SEPARATISM. Believe me, I don't want to tryhard in your games any more than you want me to, I just don't get to pick whose game I join. So now we're all forced into one giant warehouse with no tables and it's hot and smelly and nobody has control of the air conditioning. There is no such thing as community when you never see the same players twice. Matchmaking is not bringing the community together, it's FORCING the community together, and people like to have their own rooms.
But back on topic, the whole tryhard thing is stupid and childish. What about pro atheletes and olympians? They try a LOT harder, and those are just games too. Nobody calls them tryhards.
Inb4 several people call me a tryhard for making a long post.